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RECIEVING FICTICIOUS CHECKS BY MAIL.....

By GENEVA CARDENAS, 12 Apr 2008 | Country: United States
ON APRIL 7, 2008 I RECIEVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL ALONG WITH A CHECK FOR $2982.60 MADE OUT TO ME FROM A BANK NAMED TEXAS DOW EMPLOYEES CREDIT UNION. I LOOKED UP THE TDECU ON THE INTERNET AND IT TURNS OUT IT IS A BANK. IN THE LETTER IT STATED THAT I HAD WON THE 3RD GRAND PRIZE OF A LUCKY SWEEPSTAKES. IT ALSO GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE WINNER MUST PAY A PROCESSING FEE BEFORE HIS/HER FUNDS ARE RELEASED AND THAT THE SAME LAW ALSO PREVENTS THE WINNER FROM PAYING OUT FEES FROM HIS/HER PERSONAL POCKET. IT HAS A REFERENCE NUMBER AND IT SAYS THE NUMBER MUST BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL THE CLAIM IS PROCESSED. AT THE END OF THE LETTER IT STATES THAT THE FUNDS ARE NOW DEPOSITED INTO AN ACCOUNT AT THAT BANK WHICH IS INSURED BY THEM. AND AT THE END IT STATED THAT THE ONLY WAY THE CHECK WOULD BE VALID WAS TO CALL THEIR OFFICES. AND THE NAME OF THE REPRESENTATIVE I HAD TO SPEAK WITH WAS JERRY SCOFIELD. APPARENTLY HE OR THEY ARE LOCATED IN LAKE JACKSON, TEXAS. I CALLED AND SPOKE WITH THIS REPRESENTATIVE AND ASKED HIM WHAT THE CHECK WAS FOR AND HE IN RETURN ANSWERED "MA'AM THE CHECK IS YOURS AND IS VALID ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO YOUR BANK AND CASH IT," I RESPONDED "AND THEN WHAT?" HE ANSWERED "AFTER YOU CASH THE CHECK AND COLLECT THE MONEY CALL US BACK AND WE WILL THEN TELL YOU WHAT YOU MUST DO TO COLLECT THE REST OF YOUR PRIZE." WELL, ME NOT EVER THINKING IT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME WENT TO MY BANK AND DEPOSITED THE CHECK. I HAD ASKED FOR $500.00 AND THE REST BE DEPOSITED INTO MY ACCOUNT. THE TELLER COMES ON AND SAYS THAT SHE CAN ONLY GIVE ME $500.00 BECAUSE THE CHECK WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR 5 DAYS TO SEE IF IT WAS A LEGAL CHECK AND WOULD CLEAR. SO I THOUGHT OK THEN IT'S OK IF IT IS ON HOLD AND MAYBE IT WAS BETTER THAT WAY. WHEN I DEPOSITED THE CHECK I CALLED THE REPRESENTATIVE AGAIN AND TOLD HIM "I CASHED THE CHECK SO NOW WHAT?" HE SOUNDED SUPRISED AND SAID "YOU DID," I RESPONDED "YES SIR," SO I WENT ON TO TELL HIM THAT THEY ONLY GAVE ME THE $500.00 AND THE REST WAS ON HOLD TO MAKE SURE THE CHECK WOULD CLEAR. HE SAID "OK WHEN YOU GET THE REST OF THE MONEY CALL US BACK AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO AFTER THAT." NEVER ONCE DID I STOP TO THINK THAT I WAS IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE. WELL, I GOT PAID ON APRIL 10TH AND MY CHECK IS DIRECTLY DEPOSITED INTO MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT SO I TRANSFERED THE FUNDS I HAD LEFT TO MY CHECKING ACCOUNT WHICH IS WHERE THEY WERE HOLDING THE MONEY FROM THE CHECK FOR CLEARING. SO HERE I AM APRIL 11TH ALL MY BILLS ARE DUE AND THE MONEY I TRANSFERED WAS TAKEN OUT OF MY CHECKING ACCOUNT BECAUSE THE CHECK TURNED OUT TO BE A FICTICIOUS CHECK. I OWE THE BANK THE $500.00 AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING I WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO PAY BACK THE 2982.60 JUST BECAUSE I DEPOSITED THE MONEY INTO MY ACCOUNT AND THE NUMBER THEY CALLED ON THE CHECK IS NOT A WORKING NUMBER AND SO IS THE ACCOUNT NUMER ON THE CHECK ITSELF. TALK ABOUT FREAKING PISSED. NOW WHAT DO I DO? I HAVE ALL MY BILLS DO AND $300.00 TO MY NAME AND DON'T GET PAID FOR ANOTHER 2 WEEKS. I CALLED THE REPRESENTATIVE AND ASKED FOR JERRY SCOFIELD AND THE SAME MAN I SPOKE TO THE FIRST TIME WAS THE SAME MAN THAT HAD BEEN ANSWERED THE PHONE THE PAST COUPLE OF TIMES. SO HE ASKED "WHO IS SPEAKING?" I GAVE HIM MY NAME AND TOLD HIM WHAT THE BANK HAD JUST TOLD ME "HE SAID OK," AND THEN I HEARD SILENCE. THIS STUPID S.O.B HAD HUNG UP ON ME. I CALLED AND CALLED AND NO ANSWER. SO I AM NOW WAITING FOR THE COPS TO COME TO MY HOUSE SO I CAN FILE A POLICE REPORT. AND WHAT GOOD WILL THAT DO ME? WILL I GET MY MONEY BACK OR WHAT DO I GET FROM ALL OF THIS? THE NUMBER THAT WAS ON THE LETTER WAS 514-559-5384 AND WHEN I CALLED AGAIN TODAY THERE WAS A RECORDING AND THE NUMBER ON THE MACHINE WAS 514-583-7592. HE ANSWERED THE 2ND NUMBER BUT NOT THE 1ST ONE. SO JUST TO LET YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW. PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT YOU RECIEVE IN THE MAIL. REMEMBER NOTHING IS FOR FREE AND IN THIS SITUATION IT WILL COST ME ALMOST $3000.00 TO HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS OR WHAT TO DO?
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Rating: 0 tj - 12 Apr 2008
It's a scam.  Essentially a variation of the Nigerian check scam.

Once you deposit the phony check, they usually ask you to send some amount back to them, for "processing fees" or "taxes", possibly thru Western Union so you can't reverse it or track them down.

But just because the bank deposits money in your account and releases some or all of it to you does not mean the whole transaction cannot be reversed if it turns out the check is bad or forged.  Your bank does not guarantee some other unknown party's check is good.  In fact, you are on the hook to the bank if it is not.

Since most banks will release part of a deposited check quickly if you have been a reliable customer, you can end up sending your real money (as "fees" or "taxes") to crooks, thinking you got more than that from them in the check.  It can take several weeks for the bank to find out the check is phony, and even months to find out if it is forged on a legitimate account.  Regardless of how long it takes, the bank reverses the deposit and you end up responsible for any amount short.

If you didn't actually send them any money, then although they tried to take you, you have no real loss, other than being fooled into believing you have money you don't really have and possibly spending it on things you cannot afford.  

If that is all you lost, consider yourself very lucky.  Some victims of this type of scam have found themselves responsible for returning thousands of dollars to their bank, and in some cases even had legal costs to defend against charges of depositing forged or fraudulent checks, while they sent their own real hard earned cash to the crooks.

Note that scammers steal the legitimacy of others (in this case the credit union), as well as make other fraudulent claims ("the money is in an insured account") to make it all sound legitimate and low risk.  Their goal is to maintain the fiction long enough to get you to part with YOUR money, either thru you sending it to them via Western Union, or thru you giving them your bank account information.

Just because people say something doesn't make it true, and just because they put something on a piece of paper (a check), doesn't make it real.
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Rating: 0 tj - 12 Apr 2008
Area code 514 is Montreal Quebec (CANADA), which is home to a bunch of cross-border scams that prey on Americans.  The range of scams often run from that area include "advance fee" loan scams, and "lottery" scams.  They take advantage of the additional difficulty of prosecuting crooks in another country to "take the money and run".  FTC and Canadian law enforcement have gone after a number of them over the years, but they continually change names to make it more difficult to track them.

Some of them show up in this cluster of possibly related scam reports:
http://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/1iWKOqUT-gC2ZwjKCwYbQQ
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Rating: 0 Leslie - 21 Apr 2008
since the check was put on hold to make sure it was a real check u shouldnt have to pay nutin but the 500.00 dollars,i too fell for this scam but i didnt get any money from my bank the bank put the check on hold for 7 days and on the 7th day i was called by the bank and told the check was fake and that was that....i hope everything works out for you,its sad to know how far people will go to get money for scaming
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Rating: 0 USA ALSO SCAMMED - 21 Apr 2008
I ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER WITH THE SAME EXACT INFORMATION AND WHEN I CALLED THE NUMBER 514-583-7237 TO A WENDY FISHER. WHEN I CALLED AUTOMATICALLY A VOICE MAIL COME ON BUT WILL NOT LET YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE. SO I CALLED 411 INFORMATION AND GAVE THEM THE ADDRESS OF THE BANK AND GOT A PHONE NUMBER 979-297-1154. I SPOKE WITH A REPRESENATIVE THERE WHO TOLD ME TO FAX OVER A COPY OF THE LETTER AND THE CHECK.  THEY ARE INVESTINGATING THIS. SHE SAID THAT IT WAS FRAUD AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE CALLED HER ABOUT IT. ITS A GOOD THING THAT I DIDNT MAIL OR CASH THE CHECK IT WENT STRAGIHT TO THE SHREDDER. FOR ANYONE WHO GETS THE LETTER AND CHECK CALL 979-297-1154 AND SPEAK TO THE ACTUAL BANK THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THIS TO TRACK THE SIGNATURE AND INFO ON THE CHECK.  DO NOT MAIL THE CHECK BACK TO THEM THOUGH NO MATTER WHO TELLS YOU TO. SHRED THE CHECK.
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