Info leeching

Complaint

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This Chick
Country: United States
I just received an unsolicited phone call from a woman who was seeking information about a supposed listing of my residence on Superpages.

I simply stated that we have no listing on SuperPages, nor had we even heard of such a thing prior to the phone call.

She ignored me and asked if my phone number was a house or business, to which I promptly replied that it was none of her business and hung up the phone.

The caller id identified the call as "New York" only at 212-266-5381.

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  • 0
    tj
    There have been other reports of telemarketers fraudulently signing up businesses, and even individuals who once had a business, for directory listings without their permission.  Their calls often are similar to yours, claiming to "verify your listing", acting like you already have one, and apparently trying to get some reply from any employee who might answer for a small business that they can claim was an "order", even though they have not made an offer or disclosed terms.

    Most of these complaints have been against shady "directory" scammers, some in Canada, who are then reported to use threats of credit damage to extort exorbitant payments for worthless listings.  FTC and Canadian authorities have gone after some.

    There are also, however, other complaints similar to yours, including against Verizon, where people have alleged that they were signed up for a useless directory listing without their permission, apparently based on a listing they had once had for a business a decade earlier that is no longer in business.  Telemarketers appear to be mining old listing information to make new sales calls, and then fraudulently claiming the "business" (no longer even in existence) renewed their listing.  This just makes more blatantly clear the fraudulent intent.

    Fraudulent telemarketing associated with otherwise legitimate businesses often results from the practice of using third party telemarketing call centers where the callers are paid commissions as incentive.  These firms typically have high turnover and will hire almost anyone, so it really should be no surprise if some of their "sales" are fabricated.

    Since your suspect that they were attempting to engage in fraud (due to their false and deceptive claim that you already had a listing), and you cannot trust that they did not fraudulently sign you up for something despite your refusal to provide any information, your safest path is to file complaints with FTC and your state AG to report the incident.  You might also send a letter to Verizon's executive offices, outlining the incident, and demand that they ensure their telemarketers cease contacting you by phone due to attempted fraud by their agents.  No doubt they will deny it, but it puts the matter on the record.
  • 0
    tj
    Multiple reports of Do Not Call violations, and cell phone telemarketing TCPA violations.  Repeated reports that it is "Superpages".  If they are calling your cell phone, or your number is on the DNClist, file DNC complaints with FTC.

    http://phoneowner.info/Number.aspx/2122665381
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-212-266-5381
    https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/2122665335

    "...
    (cell phone in cali) - 16 Dec 2008
    i just called Super Pages at 800-376-0136

    the operator apologized and confirmed that it was probably a call center which Super Pages outsources to another country. she offered to add my phone numbers to their own do not call list so i entered 2 phone numbers to it. she was very nice on the phone and it didn't seem like her fault so if you call to be removed, don't be mean to her. maybe ask to speak with her manager and threaten a lawsuit or something but be nice to the sales receptionist.
    Caller ID: 212-266-5335
    Caller: (unknown - calling my cell phone)
    ..."
  • 0
    Adam Stone
    hi people .. this is Adam Stone . i'm one of the agents in superpages.com ...
    i'm glad to answer all ur questions around our calls .. we're calling to update some information for a free listing you already have on superpages.com just like any other business allover usa .. ur listed on superpages.com which is the online directory .. just like u are listed in the printed phone book ...
    just give the agents a chance 2 do their job and every one will b happy at this time ... and u r more than welcome to ask any thing ..
  • 0
    tj
    Since you have chosen to do business in an ocean infested with sharks, you would be wise to to conduct your calls in a manner that distinguishes your company from the many criminal "listing" scammers.

    Scammers hit businesses with repeated phone calls, legitimate businesses do not.

    Scammers cloud their identities, attempting to confuse their identity with that of well-known companies.  Legitimate businesses do not.

    Scammers attempt to bully people into making statements they can later claim authorize a fraudulent bill.  Legitimate businesses do not.

    Given the frequency of calls from scammers to small businesses, law abiding businesses should recognize the legitimate interests of the parties they are calling in minimizing the exposure of their businesses to fraud and extortion.  Just as banks recognize that the only safe way for consumers to respond to even a bank initiated call is to call back to a known trusted number, you would be wise to recognize that the only safe way to update a directory listing may be to provide a way for the small businesses you want to list to contact you through a verifiable channel.  

    For example, if superpages.com is affiliated with Verizon, then it should be reachable through Verizon's website, and the free listing terms should be clearly spelled out.

    The days of cold-calling telemarketing are over due to excessive telemarketing fraud.
  • 0
    Jay
    Adam, your company harvests company information and copies that information into your "database".  That does not constitute "doing business" with your company since no authorization was obtained prior to the "listing".

    And, some companies may object to any association with your spam like company.

    Receiving phone calls 5-8 times a week, all hung up, from your company is harassment. If your IT department or the agents of your company are incapable of removing dead-end leads from your database, expect to run into individuals who do not take this harassment lightly. E.g. expect lawsuits.
  • 0
    Mamawied
    I just hung up on a telemarketer with Superpages. I get calls at least 3 times a week and am getting tired of it. I have repeatedly told them that if they want to speak with anyone but me, I will need a name and a call back number. If not, then they are not going to get a response. They are certainly not going to get paid for services that we did not request or initiate. What they will get is a cease and desist letter from our lawyer.
  • 0
    JHS
    It's really obnoxious when these people don't hear me answer due to their shoddy dialing program so they hang up.  That is why I will never purchase anything from a telemarketer.  Period.
  • 0
    Jacki
    Calls everyday on my cell. Very harrassing! They will not give up!
  • 0
    the_beautician
    that is FALSE INFOMATION - in order to sign up for an advertising campaign on superpages , the person MUST be the FINAL FINANCIAL DECISION MAKER and he MUST agree on the package (price/mth) info throughout a recorded line and then he MUST agree upon the sign up process through an automated system to authorize the order confirmed with a Confirmation Number given. Being provided with FULL contact info to get back to idearc at anytime as an advertiser.
  • 0
    KAF
    I just looked superpages.com / Idearc Media up on the Better Business Bureau website...they have been revoked and are no longer in good standing with them due to unresolved complaints.  Beware if you get calls from them.
  • 0
    tj
    What should be, and what is according to official policy, is often not what happens in reality.

    If you provide telemarketers with enough incentive to close sales, and if your controls and auditing are inadequate, they will "close sales" that never happened.
  • 0
    Tholzel
    I get as many as 3 calls a day from an outfit wanting to "give" me a free home security system if they can put a sign up in my front yard. The calls come from Michigan, Texcas and Oregon--even though I am on the Do Not Call list. Nothing I say deters them. What is Verizon doing to stop this assault?

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