Leaving debt collection information with your supervisor

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Texas Heat
Country: United States
Today a collection company called and left a message on my supervisor's phone with a very detailed message regarding my alleged debt status.  So I called the number and these people threaten me with not paying my bills and well as never paying my debts which is none of her business. They were going to serve with a  complaint to sue from the original source to appear in court. A bench warrant would be issued if I didn't accept their paper work.She also said a police office would be wtih her when she served me at my place of work.  They then called back to speak to me about this and I told them what they did was illegal what she said.  She also stated to be served at my job in front of my co-workers.  I told her to do what she had to do.  Then she call another number where I work and left a message she wanted to speak to my direct supervisor and left a reference number. Why would a process server need to speak with your supervisor

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    tj
    | 2 replies
    What you report has all the indications of a fake "process server" shakedown racket.

    The violations of FDPCA are so blatant no legitimate collection agency would get caught doing them, since they would get sued, but collection scammers do it routinely, depending on their ability to quickly con or extort payment with no proof, and then hiding their location, or periodically changing their names, to interfere with lawsuits.

    Names including "Filing Firm" or "Processing", or "Legal" are common with these schemes, to imply they are some kind of "law firm that sues".  The more deceptive violations and threats, the more likely it's all an act.

    Searching on "J & R Processing" finds this:
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-908-6285

    So their "collected identification" is:
    "J & R Processing"
    "Hyperion Recovery"
    "J & M Processing"
    "J&L Processing"
    214 347-8526
    877-908-6285
    214-390-9992
    215-504-1727

    "BEENSCAREDENOUGH replies to fed up
    16 Nov 2011
    I received similar calls from a Joanne Blake, stating that she was from J&R Processing {not J&L but also nonexistent under either name}, & that she was a process server.  The number shows up on the Caller I.D. as 214 347-8526, Hyperion Recovery.  I called the Dallas County sheriff department {214 area code}, & they said not only is there not a warrant for me, but I'm not even in their system.  Also, they confirmed my thought that if there was something needing to be served, they would just do so through my county {in WA}, & would never call me to tell me they planned to do it.  This was actually the third such threat I wasted my entire day researching today.  "

    It's definitely a "con".
    "After a discussion with him he convinced me to give him my account information and he would send me the info and I could get my $250 back."

    "I told him to meet me at the nearest Police station to deliver this "summons"...
    All at once we were disconnected... "

    Harrassment of relatives by the fake "process server" is typical of this type of shakedown.
    "They have called my sister's landline, my brother in law's cell phone, my mother's landline phone, and my step daughter's mother's landline phone."

    This type of shakedown racket is commonly run by New York scammers, often from the greater Buffalo area.
    "This company is located at 2827 transit road in elma ny 14059, goes by the nam phoenix apperal or phoenix capital llc..."

    Note the probable "shill" posts, (removed), under the names "ATTY.SWANSON" and "Detective Bensen LAPD".  Posted on the same day (May 25), they also got caught on the same day.  Probably had identical IP addresses as well.  Shill posts to complaint threads are pretty common with fake collection shakedown rackets.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-908-6285/2


    Since Texas requires that even out of state debt collectors be Texas licensed and bonded to collect from Texas residents, contact the Texas Attorney General to report the violations, and to determine if they are licensed.  The out of state shakedowns are usually unlicensed and unbonded, since they typically depend on hiding rather than legal compliance.  The Texas AG goes after these fly-by-night "debt collectors" from time to time.

    Note the information identifying the alleged owners.
    https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/8779086285

    Contact the New York Attorney General.
    They also have sued and shut down many similar "debt collectors".
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      Vgarcia replies to tj
      I was left a msg but it was for my boyfriend saying he was from national
      Processing service and he had to him back with in 72 hrs or he would go thru Clark county courts... his name was Peter cabala
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      Melissa replies to tj
      I have had similar calls and this company I feel was called dk financial and credit solutions also national management they scammed me out of money telling me I was paying off a debt and my debt was never paid!
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    Country Girl
    | 4 replies
    Today August 8, 2012, a Patrick Reynolds called my job and stated that he was from J & R Processing, I had to ask him to repeat it 3x's due to he sounded like he had a mouth full of snuff.  Asking me for my home address so that I could be served with papers from my local district court.  Well J & R you should have done your homework before calling me, I know that this is a scam and that phone call was so far off from the court procedures in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.  Also your records should have shown you that I work in the courts.  Than they had the nerve to call me from a 214-256-4998 number.  Just wanted you to know that the phone call was recorded and this phone number has been forward to the States General Attorney to have you served the proper way and sued.  Next time research your state on their by-laws before trying to intimidate someone.  I guess now I got the gold medal and you get nothing...
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      tj replies to Country Girl
      You may also wish to contact the New York Attorney General.
      They have sued and shut down many similar "debt collectors", including many in the Buffalo area.
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      Shelly replies to Country Girl
      I just a call today from them as well. Called from 214.473.4318,.. Said they would be in my area and I don't even live in that state anymore!! WTF??
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      Meagan replies to Country Girl
      | 1 reply
      I just had the same guy call me and said someone put me down as a reference but I do not know any information further than that.
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        tj replies to Meagan
        Most likely, no one put you down as a "reference".  They are just guessing at who might know their targeted victim.

        Their shakedown scheme depends on creating the perception that there is some "lawsuit".  They do this by pretending to be a "process server" calling some relative to panic the victim into paying without any proof anything is even owed.  Even when they know how to contact the victim, they skip-trace to locate relatives to call first, because that embarasses the victim in front of family, helps create a state of panic, sounds like something some "process server" could do, and might even get money out of the relative, to protect the victim from "prosecution".  

        Actually, anyone willing to pay Accurint for their services can find a bunch of partly erronous "connections" to anyone else.

        Accurint, skip-tracer to the shakedown scams.
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    Fed up
    | 1 reply
    Tgese people called me today saying they had a courier with documdocuments to serve me this mess is a scam. They negotiated a deal for me to pay 200 every two weeks for 3 pay periods can anyone help me report them. I love in ky
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      gary replies to Fed up
      yes called me todaysaid i owe the for old phonebill 2002 that i do not owe i would not agree to there terms i do not owe phone bill the statudes of limitations in vt is 6 years scamers thrented me i told them the law is u have 30 days to send me a paper so i can dissput it told me no i told them to f off sorry for spelling i was mad people do your homework never send money and dont let them try to have u admit u owe then u f ed people
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    cr
    They called me, stating they had legal documents for me to be served, i told them to go right ahead. Lol in bama
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    min
    i have recieved calls from J&R processing is this a scam or should i be worried
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    MICK
    They also called me at work - which i promptly hung up - totally a scam... i've been getting similar calls off and on for a year or so... then left a msg on my cell.  best thing is to not answer...
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    Mississippi
    | 1 reply
    I got a phone call from my work,here in Mississippi at the casino's-that J&R Processing called to inform me that I would be arrested at work&served papers,told all my business to a co-worker or all the details of the business matter at hand!!!My work said they just took the message,listened to all of this forever & just wanted to WARN ME Before I came to work last night that I may be arrested on the job!!!I've been under alot of pressure anyway & they didnt want me flipping out at work over another issue!J&R left a number of 214-473-4318,but no name besides the J&R!!!I didn't appreciate anyone first of all discussing anything with anyone other than me & how can they do that?The person they talked to was freaked out for me!Yes,I have a bill,but who isn't trying to make it!WHAT TO DO & YES THEY HAVE CALLED ALL MY REFERENCE NUMBERS ALSO & TOLD THEM!!!
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      tj replies to Mississippi
      The threats and third party disclosure,are all illegal, and violate FDCPA.  You can sue them, and courts can award statutory and actual damages, and your attorney fees if you win.

      Debt collectors are also required to send you a letter within 5 days of their first contact, notifying you of the alleged debt, who allegedly you owe it to, and that you can dispute or request that they obtain and send you proof you owe it to them.

      Don't hold your breath waiting to be "served" or even "arrested".  When they make illegal threats, espcially so brazenly, with witnesses like your coworker, the only way for them to avoid lawsuits and damage awards is to hide.  That kind of gets in the way of any action that might definitively identify who and where they are.  

      When they make illegal threats, they also generally don't send the FDCPA required notification letter, which itself is another FDCPA violation for which you can sue.  When they are illegally evading validation, there is no way you can obtain proof you owe them, and maybe you don't, even if you think there is some debt that sounds like what they are collecting from.  They may even be buying data out the back door of some other collection agency from some dishonest employee, in which case paying them won't even pay off any debt.  Several scam "debt collectors" in the Buffalo area got convicted of this and sentenced to federal prison about a year ago.

      It's not likely they are going to "sue" you or "serve" you, or else they would have just done so.

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