Got a call from a guy name ron lind ask about my property being for sale and if it wasnt i was going to be evicted this is the number 215-344-4761
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tj
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That's a new one.
Google finds nothing under that number.
So how exactly are you going to be "evicted" by someone who doesn't know whether your property is for sale or not?
It's got to be some sort of con or shakedown attempt, although not very well formed as yet. What did he want? You to send him money by prepaid debit card to avoid this "eviction"? Or is he sizing you up for gullability in preparation for hitting you with some more conventional shakedown?
Have you applied recently for any online "payday loans"? Was he Indian with a thick accent, or normal US accent?
American guy kept calling about the property said he wanted to buy the property if not he was going to evict me to get the property this aint the first time this happend
Deffinitly gonna keep an eye on this thanks for advice about a shakedown didnt think of it
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tj
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I am assuming that you are on reasonable terms with your landlord, and that he is current on any mortgage and taxes. I am also assuming that your landlord has not put the property on the market, and that you haven't had real estate agents trooping potential buyers around.
If is not normal real estate buying practice to go around the property owner and start making threats to tenants. You are not your landlord's answering service, nor are you his agent. Things that deviate from normal are often fraud indicators.
Threatening to "evict" you when he doesn't even own the property is enough of a threat that you should report this to your local police. People who play these games often play it repeatedly on many people looking for someone to fall for it, and the police should be made aware of this type of scheme going around. This is consistent with some petty phone shakedown because it involves an implied threat, is by phone from an unknown stranger, and could be used to obtain something of value. The victims are often elderly, as in many frauds and phone shakedowns.
The other way this could be played is to coerce your landlord to sell to a lowball offer if he knows your landlord is financially shakey, by scaring his tenants away and depriving him of the income that keeps the mortgage and taxes current. Typical petty mob stuff, more workable in certain parts of the country with a particularly weak local real estate market. Try to force a strong-arm short sale, maybe shear both the landlord and his bank. Works best with a bank insider to help "approve" the short sale after stringing along the landlord until he runs out of all resources.
In weak markets there always appear to be various "sharks" running around looking for "opportunities".
And if you have a lease, any purchase might be subject to the terms of the existing lease contract, if you are not month to month. It's not just whatever some new guy showing up wants to do.
If this starts to go anywhere, run this by an attorney. You might need to record the lease document with the county recorder to establish precedence. You might see if your local bar association or law school has a legal aid group.
At this point the threatening caller is showing "disorganized" behavior and out of place threats more consistent with a flake or 2 bit shark.
Im the united states your right no realiter would introduce them selves like that deffinatly sounds like some big scam dont know about his payments on taxes though
States license real estate agents. It's easy enough to look him up. Contact your state's real estate licensing board.
You will either find a licensed person under this name, with phone number, or not. If not, you know you are dealing with some scammer using an alias, just not clear for what. If so, you can find out where, get an address and phone number. In real estate, your number's going to be listed. If not in your area, most likely not the same person. If in your area, give him a call. Still most likely not the same person.
If the guy's really a licensed agent (highly unlikely) file a complaint.
That about covers it.
Scams depend on uncertainty to magnify deceptive threats. That's because threats and deception are tactics used primarily when the predator has no other actual power. It's a cheap fake that may blindside people who don't expect it, but shows weakness, not strength. Know what you are dealing with, and it's just an idiot trying to bluff.
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Google finds nothing under that number.
So how exactly are you going to be "evicted" by someone who doesn't know whether your property is for sale or not?
It's got to be some sort of con or shakedown attempt, although not very well formed as yet.
What did he want?
You to send him money by prepaid debit card to avoid this "eviction"?
Or is he sizing you up for gullability in preparation for hitting you with some more conventional shakedown?
Have you applied recently for any online "payday loans"?
Was he Indian with a thick accent, or normal US accent?
If is not normal real estate buying practice to go around the property owner and start making threats to tenants. You are not your landlord's answering service, nor are you his agent. Things that deviate from normal are often fraud indicators.
Threatening to "evict" you when he doesn't even own the property is enough of a threat that you should report this to your local police. People who play these games often play it repeatedly on many people looking for someone to fall for it, and the police should be made aware of this type of scheme going around. This is consistent with some petty phone shakedown because it involves an implied threat, is by phone from an unknown stranger, and could be used to obtain something of value. The victims are often elderly, as in many frauds and phone shakedowns.
The other way this could be played is to coerce your landlord to sell to a lowball offer if he knows your landlord is financially shakey, by scaring his tenants away and depriving him of the income that keeps the mortgage and taxes current. Typical petty mob stuff, more workable in certain parts of the country with a particularly weak local real estate market. Try to force a strong-arm short sale, maybe shear both the landlord and his bank. Works best with a bank insider to help "approve" the short sale after stringing along the landlord until he runs out of all resources.
In weak markets there always appear to be various "sharks" running around looking for "opportunities".
What part of the country are you in?
If this starts to go anywhere, run this by an attorney. You might need to record the lease document with the county recorder to establish precedence. You might see if your local bar association or law school has a legal aid group.
At this point the threatening caller is showing "disorganized" behavior and out of place threats more consistent with a flake or 2 bit shark.
You will either find a licensed person under this name, with phone number, or not.
If not, you know you are dealing with some scammer using an alias, just not clear for what.
If so, you can find out where, get an address and phone number.
In real estate, your number's going to be listed.
If not in your area, most likely not the same person.
If in your area, give him a call. Still most likely not the same person.
If the guy's really a licensed agent (highly unlikely) file a complaint.
That about covers it.
Scams depend on uncertainty to magnify deceptive threats. That's because threats and deception are tactics used primarily when the predator has no other actual power. It's a cheap fake that may blindside people who don't expect it, but shows weakness, not strength. Know what you are dealing with, and it's just an idiot trying to bluff.