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MNJ
Country: United States
My first call of 2day was from CENTRAL REWARDS cliaming that my phone # was radomly selected by there company 2 recieve a $500 grocery card and that all I had 2 do was pay $4.95 and the card would arrive in the mail.  I asked what company was the card going to be from and he responded Wal-Mart Target Homedepot etc.  So now I'm thinking scam because you would or should be able to tell me who this card is going to come from. He was very hesitant on the answer as well. He was so eager to get my card # i just felt like something wasn't right and everytime I would ask a ? the background went completely silent.  I asked for their telephone # after the 3rd time of the background going silent and the guy said that i had to pay the $4.95 to get it.That is when i knew to look on the computer and see whats up with this company. I still have this gentleman on the phone sayn how this $500 grocery card is a good deal and that im getting it for a low price just shipping and handling cost and that it would be here in 1 to 2 days. Before the screen could show me all the complaints on this company i asked for the # for the last time and he flat out said that I had 2 pay for it the screen poped up and i saw complaints with recent dates and I told him that I was going to have to pass cause i just lost my card!!!!

He called me from a # with all "0"'s and I do not remember his name but im quite sure he is not giving the same name all the time but he did have an aribic accient! Be safe people and PLEASE ASK MORE ?'S AND DO NOT BE AFFRAID TO CHALLENGE THEM.......IT'S YOUR MONEY!!!!!!

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    tj
    You are dealing with a fraudulent telemarketer running a scam from an overseas call center, probably India or Pakistan.

    They make deceptive and misleading claims about their "product" to get consumer account information, then start charging monthly for the "discount membership".

    The "discounts" aren't worth anywhere near $500 if you can even get them at all, since they set up a complicated way you have to send receipts to get vouchers spread out over months, allowing the monthly charges to continue.

    The actual terms are not disclosed up front, so the undisclosed monthly charges are fraudulent.

    In addition, there are continued reports from consumers that they got transferred to this scam when calling their utility company, bank, or insurance company.  The consistency of such complaints suggests that they may be using 800 numbers 1 digit different from large U.S. customer service numbers, so that they can con and defraud U.S. consumers by telling them the "deal" is being offered by their bank or insurance company.

    In all cases of charge cramming fraud, immediately contact your bank to dispute the fraudulent charges, and close the account or block the card number to prevent additional fraudulent charges.  Follow up with a written dispute sent to your bank's dispute address, and a fraud affidavit sent to your bank's fraud department.
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    alicia
    I have been getting calls from those same people for the past 2 days and have answered twice saying im not interested! the number that shows up on my screen is 626-521-5591 my question is how did they get my number? He also had my full address and last name which kinda creeps me out because I never signed up for anything.
  • 0
    tj
    Reported example of a telemarketing call center, with an insurance company client, spoofing caller id with "Gas Rebate Center".

    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/12/americall.shtm
    "...
    For instance, when telemarketing on behalf of an insurance company, Americall masked the company's identity by transmitting the name "Gas Rebate Center" over Caller ID.
    ..."

    Question:  Does this suggest the possibility of a call center handling both legitimate customers like insurance companies, etc, and also running a "gas rebate" scam out of the same call center, perhaps diverting incoming client customer calls to the scam?  This scenario is consistent with the many reports of callers calling insurance companies, banks, or utilities getting connected with the "Central Rewards" scam.

    Despite the FTC allegations of violating internal Do Not Call list requirements, it does not make sense that such a "customer survey" company would choose "Gas Rebate Center" as a deliberate alias, unless they were actually running some "gas rebate" scam and accidentally used the wrong caller id.
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    tj
    Reports of fraudulent telemarketing and unauthorized charges for unordered policies through National Union Fire Insurance Co in connection with telemarketers using preacquired account information.

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/national-union-fire-insurance-co-of-pittsburgh-pa-raleigh-north-carolina-c256597.html

    Although FTC has nailed this telemarketer on Do Not Call violations, repeated harassing marketing calls to existing customers of banks or insurance companies are an indicator associated with the activities of fraudulent telemarketers looking to record some "acknowledgement" from the target that they can fraudulently claim is an "authorization" for charges.
  • 0
    tj
    Just another example of the "deception" heuristic:  

    When you find any deception, look for more, since it indicates both the intent and the capability to engage in and profit from deception.

    In this example, failure to comply with Do Not Call results in call harassment, which is primarily of value in perpetrating fraud.

    Any deception shows that the company's legal compliance controls are faulty, and/or that their incentives reward fraud, both for telemarketers, and probably for first line supervisors.
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    Rebecca
    yesterday i received 7 phone calls from these guys. told them each time not to call back and i wasn't interested, but they wouldn't stop calling. ended up falling for their crap and gave them my card number after he wouldn't stop harrassing me with calls. but when they wanted my card info repeated a million times i told them i didn't want it and to stop calling. now today they have called me 10 times demanding i continue my verification process. they say i have to complete the process to get a cancellation code. i'm hoping i finally got rid of them after i demanded to talk to a manager,and chew him out big time. but they all sound exactly the same, with the same accent. they've started calling from a number with all 00000's. don't believe they're legit at all. going in to my bank to cancel my card today to be safe. pretty positive this is a scam!
  • 0
    tj
    Numerous complaints against them are consistent with fraudulent telemarketing, including reports of pretending to be offering deals associated with U.S. based banks, insurance companies, and utilities.

    There are some complaints suggesting they may be using 800 numbers chosen to be 1 digit different from common U.S. company call centers, to capture dialing errors and pretend they are connected with a company already doing business with a consumer, or they may even be an overseas outsourced call center with a rogue scam operating in the back room and targetting the customers of clients.

    Repeated harassing calls are consistent with attempts to record some piece of the call that they can claim is an "authorization" for charges.  This may indicate they already have access to some consumer account information, and only need this snippet of recording to get away with charging.

    Note that the above pattern suggests a focus on blatant fraud rather than sale of any real "product", while hiding the operation overseas to avoid prosecution.
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    dmarieok
    I just got a call as well, but the S&H was ONLY 2.95 dollars for a grocery voucher I could use at the grocery store OF MY CHOOSING!  IT would arrive in 10-12 days.  He said they wouldn't ask for my pin or CV code or anything like that... I just kept him talking long enough to look it up.  It was an Indian accent for sure....  Once again they are using people in impoverished countries to do their dirty work...makes me sick.  They probably think we really get our cards....  pretty sad.  don't fall for the scams... I didn't because I don't want additional fradulaent charges showing up on my card from the company who outsourced and hired these unsuspecting people.  Go rent the movie "outsourced" sometime... Don't always "shoot the messenger" i.e. these people may just be hired from poor countries and not know they are scamming.  BUT whatever you do DON'T give up your personal information EVER over the phone if you didn't call THEM!
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    tj
    They don't need your CCV code to charge your card.
    Just your name, card number, and expiration date is enough.

    If they are aiming at slipping through the larger charges against the unwary who are only expeting a "$2.95 charge", then they just have to do it a lot, and confuse, delay, or threaten anyone complaining long enough to run out the 60 day CC dispute period.

    Fraud is not rocket science.

    When it's set up as a scam from the start, the only effective way to deal with fraudulent charges is to dispute them through your bank and block the card number to prevent additional fraud.

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