Omar Ramirez, Kangen Water

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Health Watch
Country: United States
Be aware of Omar Ramirez, whom sells Kangen Water Machines.
He has an office in Canoga Park, California, on Vanowen and Sherman Way.
Omar Ramirez, Kangen Water is a major scam artist--he has robbed many illegal immigrants and other people out of thousands of dollars, selling fake Kangen Water machines and committing fraud against them by financing them behind their backs and leaving them stuck with unmanageable bills and debts.
OmarRamirez tricks and cheats people by making a huge Kangen Machine demonstration and extolling all of its virtues.
But then he tells people that they do not have to buy the machine, because he will help them by getting it to them for "free."
He then says that he needs their identification, including social security number.
Then he takes all of their personal information and goes behind their backs and finances them without them being aware of it.
It is years later when the poor duped people find out that their credit has been ruined and they are stuck with huge finance bills, that it is way too late.
Do NOT deal with Omar Ramirez and do NOT give him or his side-kick, another Latin-American protegee of his, any of your information.
The Los Angeles Police detectives are also conducting an investigation on Omar Ramirez for 26 counts of fraud.

Comments

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    Luis Hernandez
    I purchased 2 Kangen Water systems (SD501) from Mr. Omar and we are very very happy. He is very nice man and the water saved my brother life. I think this person who wrote this is behind another reason. And they are not saying their name. I don't believe them. Mr. Omar still has water store and is not hiding from anyone. I drove by recently. The address is 7247 Owensmouth Ave. in Canoga Park. If someone wants to ask me question please call. I am not a coward and not a fake person. My number is 818-527-6897. I am not a distributor. I just like the water and its very good for health. Thanks. LH
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    Bryan Todd
    I came across this complaint and I can tell that this is just an angry competitor. The 1st reason is you cannot finance an illegal immigrant because they do NOT have social security numbers. The 2nd reason is I know for a fact that the water filters that Mr. Ramirez sells are authentic and not a cheap knock off like most water filter systems advertised online. The 3rd reason is Mr. Ramirez never tells his clients that the machine is "Free" he explains that they may finance the machine instead of having to pay for it up front. You cannot finance someone without a valid social security number, address, and employment verification. Whomever wrote the complaint obviously has a personal problem with Mr. Ramirez and does not need to slander him on an open forum.
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    Brian Hafner
    I was surprised to come across this person complaining about Omar He has never bee dishonest with anyone I know who has dealt   with him I have also purchased a machine from him and financed it and have felt he has always been honest and up front with anyone I have seen him around he is still in the same place and continues to sell these machines you have to believe that this person trying to give him a bad name has to be some person trying to hurt his business find out for yourself go to his business and guaranty he will be up front and honest with you!
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    Brantly
    | 3 replies
    When just about anyone can sell their product, with no background checks or character references,what do you expect?  Enagic seeks to only exploit people to push their product upon unsuspecting consumers:
    http://www.alkalinewaterionizers.org/consumer ... s-so-expensive/
    If enagic was concerned with customer satisfaction, how come they are not a Better business bureau accredited business?  Using people to promote their product and then only get paid when they make a sale is a cheap form of labor exploitation.  It is a fact that in most MLM's the people selling the products end up making less than working for minimum wage when their expenses and time are taken into account.  The net effect is a slave labor force beholden to Kangen who only makes revenue when Enagic makes revenue, no matter if they sell a unit in the first day or the first month, do the math.
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      L Halle replies to Brantly
      you are clearly a limited thinker who only understands employment and working by the hour.   Otherwise you would see the opportunity to improve yourself and all those you touch, as this makes one not only healthier physically, it offers emotional stability through great financial health as well.  You are where you belong, no doubt.
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      Wanki Cho replies to Brantly
      Pure ignorance. Why don't you go closer to Enagic? It's non of these things you are saying. Enagic offers excellent opportunity for personal growth and development through owning your own business with very little investment. And you grow rich in a short time because the water markets itself by helping people through with their health problems. Go to my website and order your own machine and I will teach you how to do the business and start making genuine money: www.alkalinehealthandbeauty.co
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      Susan segura replies to Brantly
      That is called commission you ignorant person. It isn't slavary!!!
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    Lynn
    There is something wrong with people who go out of their way to spread vicious rumors.  Consider the source.  Omar is a man of integrity and he wouldn't take advantage of people NOR would he attempt to sell something that isn't authentic.  My guess is that this nasty posting was written by a competitor that has lost business to Omar.  He's the best...and so is his product.
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    nonnie
    I would like to believe this isn't true but....
    He just had one of his distributors try to recruit MY client in her own home! Behind my back. I was dumb enough to invite her with me to "help her" and to remain close and help each other out. Different teams, same company~companies saying "Let's Unify"...yea right!
    She had to be getting help from her up line sponsor Omar because she's not in a position to offer MY client what she offered her~way much more than she would have made on the sale as a 3A. Dirty.  I don't do business with people like that.  No more help from me.  As I was talking to my client she was making signs to her to not buy from me, behind my back!  I went out to my car, and she told my client a LOT of lies about me while I was gone.  She told her to "take her number, hurry before she comes back" She told her I was very unprofessional, I was a liar, and I would not support her if she purchased from me. I have been doing this business for the past 7 years and have been honest always~have many clients that would testify to that. She even had the audacity to go try to recruit her at her place of business. My poor client was so shook up by her blatant unprofessional conduct.  I was so nice to this person. Before we went to my clients home.....I bought her dinner because I felt sorry for her because she hadn't eaten I PAID... LOL...learn the hard way!!
    Thank God I am an honest person and my client didn't believe a word she said. Omar is supposed to be a God fearing man....all I can say is what you put out there will eventually return to you.
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    nonnie
    I do have to say, that I know for a fact this person is in contact with Omar almost daily, and I do know he coaches her a lot. If Omar does not know what this person in his down line is doing to illicit clients, just because he wants this area opened up for "his" team it's about time he finds out.  She can not act this way, so unprofessional! Omar please control and train your down line. This company is about professionals....not "street" conduct.
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    nonnie
    oh yea....he files her to trainings and pays for her Hotel room, and dinner and all the perks, that's how bad he wants this area for his team. She can not do that on a 3A salary.  Tells her he WILL make her a 6A within a year! There are people who get wealthy "selling machines" and there are people that really care about other people. Too bad Mr. Oshira the president of this company does not speak English so he can know what some of his distributors really do to get on top!
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    Nonnie
    Update:
    I spoke with Omar and let him know what his distributor was up to.  He said to me:
    "Million $ earners hear a problem, have a problem, and they think about it for 2 seconds....and go on.
    Other people think about it for much longer. I will do what I can to emphasize the code of ethics to my distributors." He knew what she was up to.
    Hopefully he will follow through. As for addressing the problem head-on, as he said "I thought about it for 2 seconds" now it's your problem. I do have to say that he did apologize and for that I am thankful~at least that much.
    As for my client~truth prevails!! She bought her machine "from me"  a few days ago!! Truth ALWAYS PREVAILS. May take awhile but as long as my conscious is clear and clean.  I will not deal with this "dirty" distributor ever again, no matter who's team she's on and who's support she has as her up line. Even if she becomes a million dollar distributor like her mentor Omar~All the money in the world is not worth integrity, honesty and a good conscience.  I hope that Mr. Oshiro~(president of this company) one day knows what some of his distributors (a lot of the TOP earners) are doing to get the status, honor, glory, attention etc.,  from people~that they desire at whatever cost to others, and not from the one who really sees all and matters most.
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    Shane Fondon
    | 1 reply
    Omar has helped me with my business and he has gain no money from it. Omar pours his heart and soul out to help others.
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      Omar Ramirez replies to Shane Fondon
      Thank you Shane. Your message is well received. Don't worry about what people say about you. As long as you know the TRUTH (you know what I'm talking about...John 8:32). Love you brother! Praying that doors continue to be opened for you. GB
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    debbie coan
    nonnies story is not as clear as it should be.  did she invite a distributor from another line to help her close a deal? where was her upline?
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    nonnie
    Not to close the deal, but to do as the company says.....Let's Unify....help each other out.  I was inviting her as a courtesy to Omar. Wanted an honest partnership whereby I would help her when she needed it, (she's the new one) and she would do the same for me as far as demos and support to build both our businesses in this area. Spanish and English. I was willing to be an honest partner (even though we were on different lines) I really didn't "need" her help, but by "UNIFYING" we would tackle this city together.....NOT ANYMORE!!
    As for my up line???....where's yours? When I started this business over 8 yrs. ago, they (distributors) sold machines and that is it, you got no help.  Just what you alone were willing to do for yourself! Still no support, but going strong!
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    Diesel
    I was very much in the world i.e. drugs and alcohol (for a long time I might add) Omar and his beautiful family not only consistently prayed and ministered to me but they also opened their doors for me!! They offered me a place to stay as well as food to eat for almost an entire year, never once did he so much as ask me for a dime!! Anyone who wishes to question this mans integrity I would strongly advise to simply go meet Omar either at his office or at his church (both are within walking distance from each other) and have a conversation with him..
    I'am not saying that he is perfect none of us are, but I can honestly say from the time that I have spent with Omar that this man does everything in his power to be the best man of God he can be!! The best husband/father to kids he can be!! And runs his business with as much honesty and ethics as any man possibly could!!
                                      If you don't believe me next time your in Conga Park go meet him
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    Anthony ulloa
    Do theses machines have to be registered and do you have to give your social security number for registration?

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