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ExSterlingEmployee
Country: United States
I am a former employee of "kay jewelers, " otherwise known as Sterling Jewelers. I used to work for over five years in the 60 days collections department out of the home office in Akron, Ohio. I am writing this report for both customers and employees that deal with this company. Sterling Jewelers is the owner of multiple jewlery stores throughout the USA. Some of the brands are, Kay Jewelers, J.B Robinsons, Belden's, Jared's, Osterman's, and about a half dozen more.

I am complaining about their 60-days collections manager, named Myron Olijar. Myron Olijar is a really seedy individual. I have no idea how he got promoted to manager. The following note is for those that currently work at Sterling: WATCH OUT FOR HIM! Myron knows the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collections Practices Act) very well, yet he barely enforces it. The FDCPA is a piece of law that regulates how a debt can be collected, what is legal and what is illegal. Granted, for anyone that works in collections, we all know that the overwhelming majority of the customers that fall into collections is because they are just going through a difficult time financially. Sometimes you have a sick child, get a pay cut at work, get layed off, or have an unexpected car repair. It all happens to us. On the other hand, there are deadbeats out there that simply buy stuff and don't want to pay for it, but these customers are few and far between. Well, whether you are a deadbeat or just living pay check to pay check, Myron Olijar doesn't care. I've heard this man laugh on the company floor when there is a account to be collected on, "Oh, we'll just harass them, I mean, uh, we'll collect on him." Obviously, he does this tongue-in-cheek in a very sarcastic manner. But Myron does indeed harass customers. What is worse, though, is he doesn't personally harass the customers, he gets his supervisors and his collectors to do it for him. Here are a couple of examples: FDCPA states that we are allowed to contact the customer only once a day by telephone. Myron on the other hand, will have his collectors call customers REPEATEDLY throughout the day. Myron in fact, has his collectors break the law once they have already contacted the customer, and the customer is either unwilling or unable to pay, and then has them contact the customer again. This is particularly true for balances that are over $1000. If a customer cannot or will not pay, they usually will hang up on us. What Myron Olijar will have his collectors do, however, is to have them call the customers back and say, "We got disconnected" and then attempt to collect on the account again. If this doesn't work, Myron then will have his supervisors and collectors go on a skiptracing search engine like, "peoplefinders.com." and look up all of the customers relatives, friends, neighbors, roommates, co-workers, you name it, anyone or everyone that has had any contact with the customer. Myron will then have his subordinates leave messages with anyone that is willing to take a message. I was forced by Myron to leave messages with neighbors and friends of a customer. FDCPA states that collectors can indeed leave messages with others, only if they are "familiar" with the customer. Here is the grey area Myron Olijar really exploits. Who are we, collectors out of Akron, Ohio, to know who is familiar with one of our customers in Texas, Idaho or California? We don't, and as long as customers do not know their rights, Myron keeps exploiting his collectors into doing this. Another illegal thing myron has his collectors do is when, for example, a customer's due date is say, "August 15." But the customer does not get paid until "august 16." Myron will have his collectors do a "post dated check over the phone." The idea is that there is some lag time between the debit on the customers checking account and the credit into Sterlings account. Myron will do this knowing perfectly well there is a chance that this check will bounce. If the check bounces, then Sterling is able to charge more finances fees. Another illegal thing Myron does is even sleazier. For example, if one of our customers is in collections, chances are he is in collections with his Visa Card, Car note, mortgage, etc. The customer is probably getting dozens of calls a day. The customer gets so desperate that they are willing to do anything to get the calls to stop. What Myron has his collectors do, then, is to tell customer, "THe collections calls will only stop until you set up a payment over the phone." But the customer will usually say, "I don't get paid until the end of the month." Myron then will have his collectors say, "Well, we can set up an automatic payment to debit your account until then." But here is the grey part again, the customer did not tell us if he can afford the payment or not. Sometimes the payments can be as high as $80/month. So these customers are so desperate to have the collections call stop, that they will indeed to a post dated payment over the phone, both the collectos know and the customers know that the cash probably will not be there at the end of the month. But Myron is able to exploit this. When the check bounces, Sterling is able to charge another fee, yet Myron is able to include this amount into his quota and get his monthly bonus anyway.

So as a wrap up: these are the four illegal things that Myron Olijar usually has his collectors do: 1.) call customers back repeatedly the same day after contact was made. 2.) leave messages with dozens of neighbors, friends, relatives, co-workers, or anyone else that could be "familiar" with the customer. 3.) do post dated checks over the phone into the future with the full knowledge that they might not debit in time 4.) threaten the customer with more phone calls if a posted dated check is not made into the future, knowing well that the cash is not there.

So, how does Myron Olijar do this? There is this unwritten code at Sterling when it comes to collections, "Whatever works." In other words, you can do basically anything you want, but just don't get caught, and if you do, don't count on your superiors to get you out of it. Myron Olijar really does force his supervisors and collectors to do this. He always hits his numbers because of this. Unfortunately for some, though, is when they do get caught, they ended up getting fired. I've known dozens of good people that have worked at Sterlings collections for 10+ years, only to get fired for doing what Myron Olijar has told them what to do.

My advice for current customers: Know your rights. Take down names and times you've received phone calls. Myron has been fired from Sterling before in the early 1990s, but for some awful reason the brought him back. Illegal stuff  goes on at Sterling all the time. When this stuff actually leaks to the media, they usually clean up their act for a few months, then slide back into their illegal practices. Its just a "big cycle." I'm sure that there are plenty of former Sterling Employees that are more than willing to back up what I'm saying. I could not in good faith continue working there. One of my supervisors was fired for doing exactly what Myron told him what to do. After that happened, by put in my own two week notice. I am working at a restaurant now, making less, but at least I know I'm not doing anything illegal or immoral. Shame on your Sterling Jewlers and shame on you Myron Olijar!

Comments

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    Full of it
    @the person who said these skip packets with info are just laying around YOU ARE SUCH A LIER ....U ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO GOT FIRED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HIT PRODUCTION SO NOW YOUR MAD .... Those packets do get shredded as does any accnt info and at the end of the day the skip packets do get filed and locked up and actually double check by the closing Supervisor ..... SO SORRY STERLING PISSED YOU OFF CAUSE YOU WASnt  UP TO PARR /your collecting must have sucked....So you was Deactivated........
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    sterlingleaks
    "Full of it" your credibility is really in question when you cannot even spell "LIER" correctly. LIER is really spelled LIAR.
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    Credible Witness
    | 1 reply
    "Sterlingleaks" is a disgruntled admittedly "exemployee" who spews lies on these sites because they have a beef with a former Manager.I will confirm the point "full of it" was making, every statement this disgruntled "exemployee", "sterlingleaks" poster makes is false. Real insiders know the truth and laugh at this. Full of it may need a spelling lesson, but does speak the truth.

    If "sterlingleaks" or "exemployee" had any inside knowledge they certainly wouldn't be posting more lies on these sites, it is just a matter of time before they answer for the lies. "Sterlingleaks, Exemployee" or whoever you are this week - why haven't you turned up this filing? I will provide you some excerpts to make it easy:

    [said Defendants by the ficticious names EXxxxxxxxxEMPLOYEE, EXxxxxxxxxEMPLOYEE1, EXEMPLOYEE, xxxxxxxxLEAKS, xxxxxxxxLEAKS1, and several other variations as outlined and amended in Appendix C. The Plaintiff is informed, believes, and thereon allege, that each of the Defendants designated as DOE, is in some manner responsible in whole or in part for the]

    [The Plaintiff will seek leave to amend this Complaint to insert true names and capacities of DOE when Plaintiff ascertains them through domain owners and Internet Service Providers. 4. Plaintiff is informed, believes, and thereon alleges that at all times relevant, that Defendants, and each of them, including the fictitiously named DOE, were the]

    [Plaintiff has controls in place and rigorous audits conducted by both internal and external agents to establish fact. 7. An unidentified individual, acting alone or in concert with others, has recently misappropriated and disseminated through web sites false and misleading information about Plaintiff.  8. Plaintiff invests significantly]

    [12. Defendant(s) maliciously published or caused to be published false and defamatory information over the internet concerning Plaintiff and Plaintiff's business. 13. Pursuant to Defendant's malicious intent, the publication has been read by the public. 14. The false and defamatory matter is calculated to]
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      the Truth replies to Credible Witness
      Credible Witness =  Sterling employee
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    Credible Witness
    | 2 replies
    "Sterlingleaks" is a disgruntled admittedly "exemployee" who spews lies on these sites because they have a beef with a former Manager.I will confirm the point "full of it" was making, every statement this disgruntled "exemployee", "sterlingleaks" poster makes is false. Real insiders know the truth and laugh at this. Full of it may need a spelling lesson, but does speak the truth.

    If "sterlingleaks" or "exemployee" had any inside knowledge they certainly wouldn't be posting more lies on these sites, it is just a matter of time before they answer for the lies. "Sterlingleaks, Exemployee" or whoever you are this week - why haven't you turned up this filing? I will provide you some excerpts to make it easy:

    [said Defendants by the ficticious names EXxxxxxxxxEMPLOYEE, EXxxxxxxxxEMPLOYEE1, EXEMPLOYEE, xxxxxxxxLEAKS, xxxxxxxxLEAKS1, and several other variations as outlined and amended in Appendix C. The Plaintiff is informed, believes, and thereon allege, that each of the Defendants designated as DOE, is in some manner responsible in whole or in part for the]

    [The Plaintiff will seek leave to amend this Complaint to insert true names and capacities of DOE when Plaintiff ascertains them through domain owners and Internet Service Providers. 4. Plaintiff is informed, believes, and thereon alleges that at all times relevant, that Defendants, and each of them, including the fictitiously named DOE, were the]

    [Plaintiff has controls in place and rigorous audits conducted by both internal and external agents to establish fact. 7. An unidentified individual, acting alone or in concert with others, has recently misappropriated and disseminated through web sites false and misleading information about Plaintiff.  8. Plaintiff invests significantly]

    [12. Defendant(s) maliciously published or caused to be published false and defamatory information over the internet concerning Plaintiff and Plaintiff's business. 13. Pursuant to Defendant's malicious intent, the publication has been read by the public. 14. The false and defamatory matter is calculated to]
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      antiPoster replies to Credible Witness
      Sterlingleaks" is a disgruntled admittedly "exemployee......anytime begins with "disgruntled" you know they are a Sterling plant commenter.  Every complaint is by a "disgruntled employee".  I seriously doubt it but that is Sterlings excuse.  So just remember when you hear "DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE" it's probably a Sterling employee posting.
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      the Truth replies to Credible Witness
      Credible Witness = paid to comment Sterling employee
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    Sherry
    Well I disagree with you Sharon.  In the past 2 days Sterling has called my house for my sister almost every 30 minutes!  I have told them she does not live here and given them her phone number.  It doesn't matter they still keep calling.  And the part about them searching for relatives must be true because they called me by name when I said I was her sister.  I realize they are owed money but this is ridiculous.  I have a mid term on friday and cant even study from the phone ringing every 30 minutes.  I explain every time they call I have already given them her cell and she does not live here anymore.  They look at the notes and see that , but yet they still call.  So Sharon please tell me what I can do to get these people to stop calling for someone that no longer lives here.
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    jay
    | 1 reply
    These people are horrible.  After reading this I can say every thing about their collections tactics are true.  Not only are they calling me on my cellphone, my husband's cellphone, my exhusband's house and celllphone, his wife's cell phone, and my mother in law.  This is not our debt but my son's.  He is paying it and on time.  I am getting ready to file complaints with everyone I can.
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      Lance Raphael 312-498-9560 replies to jay
      My law firm is litigating a case against this company right now for calling my clients hundreds of times. From what we can tell they called my client's cell phone around 300 times alone. I would like to speak to you about your experience and see what you can tell us which would support our claims against this company in order to prevent it from occurring to other people. My name is Lance Raphael 312-782-5808 or my cell is 312-498-9560
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    Benji
    Your son must be not be truthful with you, If he's paying it on time they would have no reason to call and it would be an incredible waste of resources. If they are calling, he is not paying - wake up Mommy.
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    FDCPA Complaint
    These scumbags call my home at least 10-20 times EACH and EVERY day.
    For the moment, with a huge house payment, I cannot afford to pay their $55 payment and I'm 60 days past due. To say the least, they have a right to make a SINGLE CALL to me to collect on the payment on any given day, but the law says they cannot call me more than 3 times in a single week, or it be considered as harrassment. This is a direct violation of the FDCPA and based on their OBSESSIVE violations, I intend to file complaints within the states of Ohio and California.  The law says they cant call me more than 3 times in a week, yet I have messages on my answering machine of repeated calls in a single days time.   THE FDCPA IS THERE FOR A REASON, I suggest for those being harrassed and violated, they follow due process and file a complaint!!!!  There are also the FTC and the State Attorney General's office that we can file additional complaints with.
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    Will Kramer
    I am going to guess that you haven't actually answered the phone to talk to them. Try picking up the phone and then see if you have something to complain about.
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    What you see is not what you get !
    I just posted a long detailed experience I 've had with Kay Jewelers for over 8yrs on ripoff.com. I will tell you this. Kays has been receiving complaints online and in store for many years. I can't believe that they are still in business with over 2,300 complaints on one site. I would tell everyone buyer beware. They will seem so sweet and so helpful and nice at the time but once something goes wrong the will act as if they never knew you or had anything to do with your situation. Please educate yourself with Kays Jewelers before buying there merchandise, also know thier policy becuase they tell you things that are not true and if you don't know their policy you will lose.
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    Unsatisfied
    Kay Jewelers sells cheap crap for large prices. I, my daughter both have had faulty rings. I bought a 2,400.00 ring on Sept 9th, diamonds have fallen out 3 times now, in just 3 months time. Kay's just keeps sending it in for repair I have asked them to just take the piece of crap, but they say it is against policy. I would think at that price they would stand behind it better. I did buy the insurance thank God or I would be up a creek. DO NOT BUY FROM KAY JEWELERS. IT IS CHEAPLY MADE CRAP!!!!!!
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    Shalomi
    My wedding  Ring was lost by Kay Jewelers lake forest mall Maryland gaithersburg. Gave the ring to be fixed 12/05/2011 and they lost it i still don't have my ring. i have gone to the store back and forth looking at diamonds that is not the same cut or size or color . they r trying to match the price i paid 2 years ago. called the regional Jeff Siddiqu about the situation he has not helped so far hung up on me  and complained about his cell phone bill when i called that i'm calling on his privet cell phone. he should not call on his privet phone to talk to customers in the first place. very disappointing with customers service and all the trouble i have to go through. i cant get the VP's number from customer service they transfer to different people and i have to repeat my self over. all i'm asking is for my ring back !!!!!
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    Upset
    For the past several weeks my we have received multiple calls a day from this company. I finally decided to start counting and today I received six of them.  I"m glad to know that they aren't allowed to do that.  Who would I take a complaint up with?
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    hard working under-paid American.
    I get illegal calls from Kay Jeweler all day long. even when i talk to them they threaten me, and keep calling me literally 5- 20 times per day. if this doesn't stop i am going to sue. and contact the U.S attorney general... very soon.
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    Reality
    I doubt they call you 20 times a day, but please know this: if you're not answering and talking to them they can keep trying, filing a complaint is rather pointless. Now if you talk to them today and they keep calling you back today thats a different story, but not likely the case.

    Let me give you some advice. Answer your phone, man up and let these companies know what your deal is. They talk to hard working under paid Americans all the time and I think you'll find they are rather reasonable.
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    marco hernandez
    Did Myron piss in your cheerios, poor little tink tink....

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