Complaint

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Doretta Tobe
Country: United States
I called this company WC Value plus V 888-833-7279 - I did not sign up with this company. I looked at my bank statement and notice that they have taken $19.95 out of my account. The young lady stated that I have been a member since March 2008. She also had the wrong address for me. I have not been a member and request for all my money to be refunded to me. She stated that she will send me a letter in the mail to fill out, she will also send me a confirmation e-mail cancelling this account. She also stated that I must have answered and informatical commercial and this is how I became a member. Please cancel this membership and refund my money.

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    Doretta Tobe
    This company should notify the consumer to confirm if the consumer has made a purchase for a product or service. This company states it is a membership and they have nothing to do with the companies that a consumer may sign up with or call in on a commerical that the consumer has view. Consumer information should not be past on without the consumers permission.
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    D.M
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    The company is not a scam. IF you place an order over the internet then that website offers you the membership if you check a box or do not uncheck a box that offers the membership or if you cash a 'live' check you receive in the mail or if you order something thru an automated system and the auto.sys. offers you the membership.

    This can also happen if you let someone make a purchase using your information. The information is only pass on b/c the membership has been accepted.

    The company does not need to call and notify the consumer b/c the memebership was aquired while handling other business. (Does Target [example] call you if you use your credit card? NO! Then why would you think this company would call every consumer that they have?)
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      Vicki replies to D.M
      Fine but what are you paying for??????
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    tj
    If these companies were "legitimate", they would not only have your account information, but they would tell you where and when they got it from, allowing you to file complaints against the company that sold them your account number.  The credit card and payment processing systems require that they know that they have authorization from the account holder to even submit a charge, yet they claim they "don't keep track of that".  Unbelievable.

    The companies they get your account information from may be using deception either to get your "approval", or fail to provide meaningful disclosure of what the "membership club" will later claim you "agreed" to.  Unreadable print on some TV ad, hiding "fine print" not easily visible on the page you are ordering from, or even on some other web page, or not showing it until you have already "agreed" to order and provided your account information, do NOT constitute meaningful disclosure of the terms of an offer to create a binding acceptance.  They are deceptive, made with the intent to defraud.  But by denying any knowledge of the source of what they still claim is an order, they "launder" the fraudulent and deceptive acts of their partners, claiming to have no responsibility for them, while still claiming to have authorization to take your money.

    File a complaint with FTC and your state AG.
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    DeeCee
    This is not a legitamate company.  If they were, they would actually send you the "discount coupons" in the mail.  The fact that nobody ever receives anything is evidence of the scam.  I was scammed because I ordered and item over the phone with a different company and was asked if I was interested in receiving free coupons for discounted services.  Of course I said "yes" - who isn't interested in receiving discounts?  But I was not told that I was signing up for a membership and every month I would be charged.  That is  where the fraud comes in to play. Period.
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    Pete
    Fortunately I just noticed they (WC *VALUE PLUS-V) had credited my account for the six months of $19.95 charges. Phone call got a form sent and allowed me to say I didn't sign up and wanted my money back. Took less than a month for me to get paid back but I hope someone with more energy than me will pursue this fraud and get some blood out of them for a change.
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    James
    I just noticed the same $19.95 charge to my account..  They got 8 months worth... I am ticked... I called the number and some girl answered playing dumb with me..  she could not even give me an ideal about what the service was that they provide...   she said she was going to send me form to fill out to possible get refunded... I dont know... I guess it is partly my fault of not paying attention to the account...   I wonder who these people are...  they sure caused me some stress...  They are now responsible for a few more of my hairs coming out.....
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    Frank Rizzo
    This is plainly a scam [***]...you must be from WC Value Plus!
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    Charity
    The same thing happened to me- and I caught it about 4 months ago- I had bought a list of forclosures over the phone- they tryed to offer me several differant things to by like legal aid, they offered me a thousand dollars if I did something or other. I told the woman no no no I do NOT want any of that. She asked me several differant ways and was persistant, but I said no.
    Well then a couple months later I see that THREE differant companies were taking money from my account.
    I linked it back to this forclosure listing and they said that if I had said no they would not have given me the deal- But I insisted- So they told me they would have to listen to my recorded conversation to prove this.
    I was surprised that they said yes, I infact had said NO I did not want that stuff & they credited me back money on my acount.
    That was four months ago. I just found another charge on my account from wc value plus for 19.95
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    Dennis
    When you notice an unauthorized charge on your credit card, call your credit card company immediately and cancel your card.  A new card with a new account number will be sent to you.  You can pay the other charges except the ones that are unauthorized.  Ask your credit company for a dispute form.  Fill it up then send it back to your credit card company.  You will then receive a refund.  I think these companies are able to do this by conniving with another company where we order stuff online.  When the "ACCEPT" window pops up, people (including me before learning this lesson) just click it without reading what they are accepting.  This results in ACCEPTING being billed $16.95 or $19.95 every month for this MEMBERSHIP to an UNKNOWN BOGUS CLUB OR SOCIETY.  So the LESSON is: READ FIRST THE AGREEMENT BEFORE CLICKING "ACCEPT".  I know this is burdensome but hey, everything is like that now.  Keep in mind, checking in at airports was easy before 911.  We have to accept that we are now living in a world where people are getting worse everyday.  I think this is the best argument against those evolutionists who claim that people evolved and are still evolving and getting better everyday.  Maybe they are right if their standard is getting better at doing bad things to other people and destroying this beautiful earth.
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    bill
    Your credit card company is the best way to (1) get a refund and (2) get the charges charged back to these thieves.  A new card is a must. By the way, a good way to manage credit is to have one card for all automatic monthly charges that you authorize and another for everything else. That way, when and if you have to get a card cancelled,it will most likely be the one for everything else and you will be saved the annoyance of having to notify all the  automatic charge companies of the new number.
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    Wallace
    I was the victim of this scam, being charged 19.95 for each of four months before I spotted the charge on my AMEX card.  Me careless.  But AMEX was kind enough to ignore my laxness and refunded the entire amount after I directed the customer service rep to the Google complaints (including some that were somewhat negative about AMEX and the lack of service getting the problem solved).  Amex policy is to refund only 60 days past charges but I think the volume of complaints might have softened the policy somewhat.  The nice thing is that the repayment comes right out of Value Plus's AMEX account.  Sweet.  Be sure to change your account number after you complain.
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    John
    I just found out about these charges on my card. They have been charging me for the past 10 months and my credit card fraud specialist have told me it was the credit card affiliated program " wow" now they are in it together for a nive bozos like me who doesn't check the statement every month. The credit card company can credit me 19.95 but the rest of the refund had to be claiimed through WC Value plus. So I called them and they said they are filing a report to FTC on my behalf and that I should get a complaint form within 7 to 10 days. I need to fill that out and send it in.
    He didn't promise me any refund but he kindly said "The process will begin".
    AAQAARRRRGGGHHHHHH
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    Laura
    OMG!!!Thieves. These people have been charging my credit card two separate charges of 19.99 each. They claim that I signed up through one their distribution partners but couldn't tell me for privacy issues who the distribution partner is. PRIVACY, I am the freaking card holder. This is a scam anyway you see it. I'm giving it to my daughter who is a lawyer to file a class action suit for fraud.
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    tj
    There is no "privacy" issue here, only one of withholding incriminating evidence.  

    They are hiding the identity of their "distribution partner" who illegally sold your billing information to them, to prevent you from naming the perpetrator in your complaint to authorities and shutting down their lucrative little "arrangement".  

    Either the charge was authorized and legitimate, or it was not.  If you didn't authorize the charges, or deception was used to obtain your "authorization", then they are fraudulent.  

    Contact your bank immediately to report the charges as fraudulent, and close your account due to fraud to prevent additional fraud in the future.

    File fraud complaints with FTC and your state Attorney General.
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    tj
    Segregating your credit card usage by type of charge is a good approach to  managing your fraud risk.  It makes it easier to detect charges that don't belong, and also makes it easier to block and shut down compromised card numbers with less disruption to legitimate business.

    It is also recommended to NEVER use, or even activate, debit cards, check cards, or direct debits of checking accounts, since those expose your checking account to substantial risk of fraud and disruption once the account number gets in the wrong hands.  

    Use ATM card and PINs ONLY at your bank's ATM.  Use checks only to pay companies you already know and trust.  Use credit cards for all other purchases, whether on-line or retail.
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    tj
    There are very specific requirements for obtaining authorization for charges in the case of bank-affiliated marketing where the marketing partner is sold bank customer account information, and can therefore make charges without further consumer authorization.  This is known as "pre-acquired account information", and has been a repeated source of bank customer fraud for years.  

    FTC established standards in 2003 for telemarketers to obtain "verifiable authorization" when they have "pre-acquired account information" or are using "free-to-pay" or negative option marketing.  If these charges show up without your explicit authorization, then the telemarketer violated the FTC TSR rules in submitting the fraudulent charges.  

    Since your bank was a partner in exposing you to fraud, and they are only refunding limited charges, file a complaint with OCC (www.occ.gov), which is responsible for regulating nationally chartered banks.  Also file a complaint with FTC and your state AG, against both the "affiliate program" and your bank.

    Several banks, including Citibank, and Chase, are under settlement agreements to properly handle consumer disputes of such fraudulent affiliate charges.  Your state Attorney General should be able to assist you in determining whether the "membership club" or bank is covered by such a settlement agreement, which has the legal effect of a court order.
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    bob1
    I agree with your assessment. They are J........s
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    Rita Robben
    Then why can't you ever get to who the 1st part company is that has you signed up for a membership.  You all need to get right with GOD and get a JOB.  You know if you put this much effort into a real job you would be well off and not going to hell with all the other Madoffs in the world!
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    Rose
    You are either clueless, work or associated with this company, or maybe the owner of a similar business.

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