telephone harassment over a bill I do not owe.

Complaint

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Diane Davis White
Country: United States
What do you do when you start receiving constant phone calls from a company
claiming you owe them money? Yeah, its 'only' $14.95, but I don't owe it,
so I'll be danged if I'm going to pay it. Isn't there a law against this kind of harassment? I get up to a dozen calls a day, beginning at 7:00 am and running through through 10:00 pm

If I don't answer, they tie up my message machine with long-winded messages
that accuse me of theft and threatening my credit rating.  
Who are these jerks? and more importantly, HOW CAN WE STOP THEM?
http://www.qtbill.com/ is their website.
Customer Support - online Sales or Customer Support...or call us at 1-866-9-qtbill (1-866-978-2455)
You don't get to speak to a live person at any of these numbers.

Comments

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    tj
    There are clear state and federal laws (FDCPA) that apply to debt collectors against abusive collection, for threatening arrest and prosecution to collect a debt (by accusing you of theft), for threatening legal action they cannot or do not intend to take, and for calling before 8am or after 9pm or using the phone in a harassing manner.  Debt collectors also must notify consumers of their right to dispute and request validation of alleged debts, and they must handle such requests in accordance with the law, including ceasing all collection activity until they provide proof of the debt.

    They will probably try to deflect such accusations by claiming they are not "debt collectors" covered by FDCPA.  In many states, however, such prohibitions are not restricted to just debt collectors, but also apply to the original creditor.  See, for example, the California Rosenthal Act.  They may also be covered under state unfair and deceptive trade practices laws.  

    File complaints with FTC, your state AG, and the Indiana Attorney General, including that you did not do business with this company, that you don't owe them any money, and that they are harassing you with a dozen calls a day from 7AM to 10PM, accusing you of theft and threatening to damage your credit rating.

    Save your recordings of their messages from your message machine as evidence, and note the times and dates.  Transcribe them so you can include the transcription of their threats in your complaints.  

    It would be interesting if you could post a transcription of one of their messages here, so others dealing with the same problem can see.  By recording their message on your machine, they gave you permission both to make that recording, and to disclose the contents to anyone for any purpose, including submitting it as evidence against them in court.
  • 0
    tj
    You might also try contacting a consumer protection attorney willing to take such a case on contingency.  With recorded messages including threats, they may be "sitting ducks".  Really dumb.

    Try www.naca.net
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    tj
    As a "billing" company engaged in the extension of credit, it would appear that qtbill.com would be covered by various laws applicable to both credit grantors, and payment processors.  

    They should also already be aware that non-traditional payment channels are likely targets for fraudulent transactions due to the choice of their merchant customers to accept, and their consumer customers to use, such channels in place of more conventional payment mechanisms such as credit cards.  On-line complaints exist that show accounts apparently opened, and charges supposedly accrued, with little more than physical access to a phone, exposing not only households, but businesses and public institutions to the possibility of fraud.

    They claim to open "accounts" for consumers, using some patent-pending means to "identify" the party authorizing their extension of credit.  Determining that there exists a person with certain identifying characteristics is NOT the same as determining that that person has, in fact, authorized a particular transaction.  In fact, if some company can find whatever information they use to claim they have identified a person, then so can another person.

    That is the fallacy that allows our current proliferation of identity theft, and "alternative identity verification" that does NOT make use of the 3 credit reporting agencies does not even allow for the existing mechanisms of "fraud alert" posting to deal with possible identity theft, as provided for in federal law.

    Thus "alternative" identification for billing purposes exposes the biller to increased risk of fraud or error, and also exposes consumers to the consequences of such biller's resulting erroneous collection attempts.  Knowing this, such billers should be careful that the manner in which they engage in what they may consider legitimate debt collection recognize the possibility that they are collecting in error, from the wrong person, or on a fraudulent transaction, just as responsible debt collectors do to comply with existing law.

    Since it appears that such identification is resulting in spurious or erroneous collection attempts, is qtbill.com meeting the Patriot Act's "Know Your Customer" requirement, or is it creating another channel for illicit money transfer, since the same identification failures that allow erroneous billing would allow anonymous transfering of funds?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

    qtbill.com would be wise to learn from the mistakes of other "innovative" payment companies, that learned the hard way that when your business practices become a public nuisance, solutions will be found to limit the damage caused by their activities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qchex
    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/10/qchex.shtm
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    doris mae boyles
    three times i have left phone messages with you as requested but i receive no answer within the 48 hour period when you said you would call. further i paid this bill on 08-01-08 for $14.95 check #1150. please call me. i know that you have my phone number because my phone rings everyday. call, decease, or be reported for harrassment. thank you.
  • 0
    tj
    If you are getting harassing calls from them, contact the office of the Indiana AG.
  • 0
    Ed
    I am getting recorded calls 3 to 4 times a day. they tell me to call another number,which in turn is a recording asking for my name,address and phone# witch they just called.Who the hell is this company? If they want to talk to me,connect me with a real person,not a damn recording.After I finish here I am calling the state attorny general and ask them to check what kind of company this really is.
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    Florida
    I see qtbills gets around; Indiana, Alabama, and now Florida.  I receive the same harassing calls for the pass 5 days, and when I loged onto their web site they say that I too owe someone $14.95.  Who can we report these this company too?  All I can think of is the BBB and the local authorities.  Has anyone been able to get them to stop calling?  Please let me know.
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    tj
    They claim to be billing for other companies, allegedly including charges for collect calls.  They claim to have some allegedly patented technique for accurately verifying the identity of people agreeing to making payments through them.  "Patented" doesn't guarantee it works reliably.

    File complaints with FTC, your state AG, and the Indiana AG.
  • 0
    janmillan
    I received a bill for 14.95 and have no idea why? can anyone help with what to do?
  • 0
    Betty Landercasper
    got a bill for 14.95 today - have no idea what it's for.
    not going to pay it either!!!
  • 0
    tj
    File complaints with the Indiana Attorney General and the FTC.

    In addition, if they sent you a bill for services you never ordered, file a mail fraud complaint with the U.S. Postal Inspector.
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    Sue
    if every bill is for 14.95, then they are scamming people out of their money. They tie up my phone line and my husband is out of the Country and I have a very ill mother. I need to know how to stop these call. I don't owe these people any money.
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    Sandgirlplyr
    I also have been getting as many as 10 calls per day just one after another telling me I owe them a bill and that they sent it in a bright orange envelope to my home.  I have never received such an envelope and then when you try to call to find out what they are talking about you can't get through to a real person or find out what the hell they are talking about.  I even emailed them and still no response.
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    okinnana
    I live in NJ and have these annoying and threatening phone calls 10x a day from qtbill for a bill I do not owe.Can't get to a real person, neither.We called our telephone company to block calls but did not work.What should I do next? I am sick.I do not have the means nor the energy to go through this unacceptable behavior. I need help!
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    tj
    File complaints with the Indiana Attorney General and the FTC.

    In addition, if they sent you a bill for services you never ordered, file a mail fraud complaint with the U.S. Postal Inspector.
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    Sbbellevue
    I need help too. I live in the state of Washington. Several days ago I started getting calls from this QTbill group on my cell phone. How they got that number puzzles me. I did no internet business with any company. They tell me my invoice was sent back to them and they need my correct address! I agree with Sue who said "if every bill is for 14.95, then they are scamming people out of their money". I will contact the state AG and the postal inspector. How do I keep them off my cell phone?
  • 0
    tj
    If they have your cell phone number "in error", you may need to change your number to stop continued telephone harassment.

    Start by contacting your state AG, and the Indiana AG.
  • 0
    Liz Boutin
    STOP  CALLING MY HOME PHONE OR I WILL FILE HARASSMENT CHARGES!!!!!!
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    2313284349
    you f stupid a hole you call 10 times a day for 39 f dolars will pay when i can a holes
  • 0
    SHARON N
    THIS COMPANY SHOULD BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS.  THEY NEED TO BE EXPOSED NATION WIDE.  17.95 FOR A COLLECT CALL IS ONE THING.  HOWEVER, CONSTANT HARASSMENT IS ANOTHER.

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