Scamings saying I owe money(Not true)
Complaint
Ardora Holden
Country: United States
These people are going around sending this kind of stuff saying we owe a particular company money! I know all my financial bills and this one is not it. This person name seems to be Matt William (believe its not his real name) is going around scaming people. They need to be stop. I have been scammed before not anymore, they are mean and evil and need to be stop trying to get peoples hard earn money. They need to get a job a real job, not scamming people. Piss of and will not stand for this anymore.
Accounts - ACS Legal Group collections.manager@acslegalgroup.com
7:40 AM (2 hours ago)
to bcc: me
Your account with Advance Cash Expert has been referred to my office for collection action. You are currently several payments behind on the above referenced account. The total outstanding amount on this account is $820.00.
I have been instructed to bring legal action against you as may be necessary, which may result in Judgment.
The file indicates that you have failed or refused to pay the above claim even though it appears just, owing, and correct.
You are hereby further advised that if payment is not received within 2 business days of the date of this issue, suit in small claims court may be commenced against you forthwith and without further notice for the amount indicated above, together with prejudgment interest. Instead of small claims court, this matter may be referred to our attorney for suit in municipal court.
As I am sure you are aware, if this matter goes to suit, all court costs, process server's fees, sheriff's fees, attorney fees where permitted, and other post judgment costs will be added to the amount that you already owe.
You can avoid the unnecessary inconvenience and added expenses of a lawsuit by making immediate payment to us. For any queries feel free to call us on (954) 762-7500.
Accounts - ACS Legal Group collections.manager@acslegalgroup.com
7:40 AM (2 hours ago)
to bcc: me
Your account with Advance Cash Expert has been referred to my office for collection action. You are currently several payments behind on the above referenced account. The total outstanding amount on this account is $820.00.
I have been instructed to bring legal action against you as may be necessary, which may result in Judgment.
The file indicates that you have failed or refused to pay the above claim even though it appears just, owing, and correct.
You are hereby further advised that if payment is not received within 2 business days of the date of this issue, suit in small claims court may be commenced against you forthwith and without further notice for the amount indicated above, together with prejudgment interest. Instead of small claims court, this matter may be referred to our attorney for suit in municipal court.
As I am sure you are aware, if this matter goes to suit, all court costs, process server's fees, sheriff's fees, attorney fees where permitted, and other post judgment costs will be added to the amount that you already owe.
You can avoid the unnecessary inconvenience and added expenses of a lawsuit by making immediate payment to us. For any queries feel free to call us on (954) 762-7500.
Comments
I'd file a complaint with your local Attorney General and forward this email along with it.
It seems that ACS has undergone some slight evolution in the delivery of their scam notices. They've cleaned up the language a bit. But it's still a scam. I'm assuming that you're in the US and in the US legal notices don't go out via email. Several years ago, I read something on msnbc about a judge IN NEW ZEALAND allowing a court to contact someone via facebook - both by posting on the person's wall and via fb email. That was IN NEW ZEALAND and it was all via facebook. It doesn't happen in the US. In the US, legal notices have to go out via certified USPS mail.
You might also want to file a complaint with the FTC. Also, it wouldn't hurt, since this email is telling you to pay, to contact the US Secret Service - they have, under their jurisdiction, the responsibility of overseeing and protecting the integrity of money and money transfers in the US. These are the guys that go after wire fraud and counterfeiting. They might be interested in this as well, especially if ACS is expecting you to wire transfer the money for this bogus debt to them.
Another small step in fabricating the appearance of "legitimacy".
They are still probably in India, NOT the US.
http://whois.net/whois/acslegalgroup.com
"....
Domain name: acslegalgroup.com
Registrant Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent ()
Fax:
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O acslegalgroup.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US
Administrative Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent (vtgqftfhmh@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4259744730
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O acslegalgroup.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US
Technical Contact:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Whois Agent (vtgqftfhmh@whoisprivacyprotect.com)
+1.4252740657
Fax: +1.4259744730
PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1
C/O acslegalgroup.com
Bellevue, WA 98007
US
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
dns1.name-services.com
dns2.name-services.com
dns3.name-services.com
dns4.name-services.com
dns5.name-services.com
Creation date: 03 Jun 2012 09:31:00
Expiration date: 03 Jun 2013 01:31:00
..."
No actual contact information, other than this "Whois Privacy Protection Service".
So, if they want to front for an international criminal organization, aiding and abetting fraud and extortion by helping them appear "legitimate" while they get to remain anonymous, let them know what you think. Give them a call.
Or report them to the FBI.
http://www.whoisprivacyprotect.com/UaLTS/
"...
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Whois Privacy Protect offers a premium service to domain name registrants to protect their personal information from being displayed in the public Whois database. The Whois database is a public directory of contact information for each individual or organization that has registered a domain name. The presence of a Whois database is required by ICANN, the governing body of Internet regulations, for each domain registrar to store accurate contact information for all domain names under management.
Domain Name registrants purchase this service to protect their privacy online and is mostly used as a countermeasure to fight spam and unsolicited advertisements. Many spammers scan the Whois database and use it to feed their mailing lists. Protecting Whois information keeps their personal information off of these lists, so that registering a domain doesn't become an open invitation to receive spam.
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Contacting Registrants
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"Email service to the scams!"
So true. But no matter what, they are what they are. How does that saying go, "you can put lipstick on a pig but in the end, it's still a pig"? Or something to that effect.
If the original poster copied and pasted the entire message, they've also dropped that extraneous reference to the 1986 privacy and wire tapping act in the post script. Anything to sound legit, I suppose, no matter how ridiculous the attempt.
I have mixed feelings about posting the 'errors' that I see in these emails. On one hand, I like exposing them in public, doing whatever I can to up the volume on the shame factor, and also to point out to someone who might be panicking just how meaningless these things are. On the other hand, however, no matter how dumb, these scammers do come here and read what is posted and by pointing out their mistakes, you provide an instruction guide on how to 'appear,' somehow, like the real deal.
Although, in my opinion (and I've said this over and over), 3rd party collections, by its very definition, is a criminal enterprise - buying debt at bargain basement prices and doing whatever it takes to collect, 20, 30, 50 times what you paid for it from the victim. It's usuary. So, when I type 'the real deal,' I'm doing it with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek.
Deception is self-limiting when everyone knows you're a liar.