CREDIT CARD SCAM

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Norbert Spichtinger
Country: Germany
On Saturday, October 18, 2008 THRIFTY agents at Munich Airport claimed a few minor scratches on the door that I did not cause. The delivery of the car on October 14 took place in darkness. The agent on duty, Karsten Sowa, promised to contact me by e-mail the following Monday with regard to this minor issue. He never did but charged immediately 1.000 Euro (one thousand Euro) to my credit card. Several attempts to contact THRIFTY Munich and their headquarters in Duisburg, Germany, remained unsuccessful. Fax messages are not answered. AVOID THIS COMPANY! My lawyer will now take over.

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    Wojtek39
    Exactly the same happened to us the only difference being that they charged our credit card 2 months after rental was completed. So for 2 months they didn't say anything and suddenly out of the blue they emailed the invoice and charged us over 800 euro! Daylight robbery. Norbert have you managed to win your money back? Can you contact me direct on wojciech@btclick.com as I don't how to find your email address. I think the scam works like that: someone who has paid for excess insurance causes the scratches but they look for the person before who didn't pay excess insurance and bill them. Simple idea! How can we stop them? AVOID Thrifty Munich Airport at all cost. Holiday Autos bookings in Munich go to Thrifty, so call them before purchase and tell them you don't want Thrifty.
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    Erik Meyer
    | 1 reply
    Thrifty and Dollar belong to the same group and the licensee for both in Germany is Terstappen. The identical fraudulent business practices apply to all Terstappen rentals.

    A word of caution to everyone, who intends to rent Dollar/Thrifty cars in Germany. Dollar/Thrifty has a licensee in Germany by the name of Terstappen with very dubious, misleading, deceptive and fraudulent business practices. When you order the car on the Dollar or Thrifty website, you will receive the usual confirmation, which breaks down the rental cost in its subcomponents such as airport fees, VAT, road tax etc. Nothing was mentioned of a mandatory insurance premium of  €20 ($28) per day. For every car I ever rented anywhere in the world, the credit card always covered the insurance premium. The AMEX Gold card specifically mentioned this coverage. It was the counter agent at the airport, who insisted on another €400.- ($560.-) insurance premium. It is highly immoral to spring this surprise on customers who just arrived on a sleepless trans-Atlantic overnight flight. This made the car the most expensive car I ever rented.

    In addition, the car had no air conditioning and when I started phoning the agency on the 0700 number supplied on the rental agreement, I was constantly put on hold and transferred to other agents and found out later, why. The 0700 is not toll free number, but costs appr €1.- ($1.35) per minute, an attractive side income for the agency. Should you be in the unfortunate position to have to call the agency for help, use their German direct dial number 0203-348-5422. It will still be a long-distance call, but infinitely cheaper than the 0700 number. I spent an additional $50 in calling the agency for help, which I never got. I drove around in an oven for 3 weeks with temperatures of over 30C (85F). It later turned out that the connecting hoses for the A/C on this brand-new car were missing.
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      Milton Horst replies to Erik Meyer
      Similar experience here.  After comparing prices for rental cars in Dusseldorf, I made a reservation with Dollar for our trip in October.  We had rented from them several years ago using credit card insurance without a problem, but when we went to pick up the car, they insisted on a Visa or American Express Platinum card or payment of LDW charges.  As we were renting for 4 weeks, LDW would be cost prohibitive.  I showed them the insurance policies for my Starwood American Express card and my Capital One Visa Signature card (which requires higher qualifications than Visa Platinum), but they still insisted on a platinum card or payment of LDW.  I checked some other car rental desks, but nobody else had cars available.  Tired after our transatlantic flight, we took a taxi to our destination at a cost of over 100 euros.  I made a new reservation with Sixt and picked up a car 2 days later.  No problems with credit card insurance there, and friendlier service to boot.  Don’t be fooled by the low price “bait and switch” tactics.  Stay away from Dollar/Thrifty, especially in Germany.
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    margriet huisman
    | 1 reply
    I cannot believe People still rent from them.
    Complaints about the terstappen co date back to 2007 or longer.
    I booked through expedia and thought to have rented a car from dollar rent a car.
    Little did I know that Terstappen was handling them.
    They made me buy insurance too. I have never had to do this with any rental car agent in the world.
    They took my 600 euros of mycredit card. They told me that they would not do that. I got that back but because of exchange rate I got 60 dollars less.
    NEVER NEVER RENT FROM THEM AGAIN.
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      Mo replies to margriet huisman
      No body can make you buy something or force you to do it.....unless you don't have car insurance
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    thitipong
    Hi All

    I just got the same situation with dollar thrifty MUNICH airport. They sent e-mail to me after my trip last week that they will charge for damage by stone at windscreen which I never did. I am waiting for image for reference.

    Margriet, could you advise how you took your 600 Euros back? Complain to Expedia??
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    zenzi
    I also made the mistake to rent a car from them. I also thought it was through dollar. first they refused to return the 600 euro deposit. after some serious complaining i received the amount minus 50 euro back. the 50 euro were for some alleged damage. there was no damage when i returned the car. i complained to dollar and have an investigation going on. just this past friday they charged an additional   $536 to our CC. we already contacted the bank and the account is frozen/cancelled. i contacted dollar again and they said they would ask for an explanation. i also contacted the german criminal police in this matter. they are in charge of credit card fraud. since i am a german citizen living in the states, i cannot file a complaint directly; has to be done in person. tomorrow i will file a complaint with the local police for international credit card fraud.they should forward it to the Kripo in munich.
    so far i have not received any kind of proof about the alleged damage. only an estimate
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    rwerner3@hotmail.com
    | 3 replies
    Same exact issue.  Rented from Expedia.... read other reports about other companies so I opted to get max coverage which doubled the price of the rental.... came back and 2 months later received a letter that I owe $1300 for damage that was already done to the car which is noted on the paperwork.  A bunch of crooks and I cannot believe Thrifty allows for the affiliation.  Both companies are trash now in my world.
    Fighting it now with Chase. Wish me luck
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      steve replies to rwerner3@hotmail.com
      | 1 reply
      At the time we hired the car the desk clerk asked to put a 'marker' on our credit card for 1000Euros. He said it would automatically be refunded when we returned the car. The car was returned in the same condition we had it. the Valet checked the fuel and walked around the car and said it was fine. He also assured me the deposit would be returned automatically. Sadly, I believed them!
      18days later I get my visa statementand noticed the charge, I assumed they had made a mistake and it would be returned. I contacted thrifty several times via the website and telephone but no responses were returned or explanations made by the Germany company.
      A month later I get a dated invoices, it arrives via postman for a damage to the car that I can only assume was done by their Valet.
      Their business practice of never telling the customer that the hire car is damaged and just charging is Immoral and I hope illegal.
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        Linda replies to steve
        Steve, Have you had any luck getting your money back? Two months after our rental Terstappen have charged 889,90 EUR to our credit card for fictional damage.
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      Linda replies to rwerner3@hotmail.com
      Have you had any luck getting your money back? Two months after our rental Terstappen have charged 889,90 EUR to our credit card for fictional damage.
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    Dima
    Just returned from the vacation, where I hired car from Thrifty Munich via retalcars. Before that I read all the complains so I was prepared to worst scenario , however the thrifty was much cheaper, so i made  a Access damage refund insurance (app. 35 Euro per week from retalcars).
    When I received a car I took its pictures, added some more scratches to the paper from Thrifty and they signed it. On the return I took the Check In Protocol at the parking went to Thrifty booth and they released 1000 Euro from my credit card. So everything went fine.
    Of course they where some misunderstandings like "second driver": in the terms it was stated that the official spouse is free but at the booth they declined it and wanted extra (did not took it - too expensive 7 Euro per day) also more extra for some airport tax or fees...about 10 Euro if I don't mistake ...
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    GJN
    We had the same issue. The Prague airport Thrifty office tried to scam me by requiring additional insurance, than what I have already paid when booking the car, then their cars "magically disappeared" and no car was available, when they couldn't get me to fall for their little scam. After than the agent changed his mind again and tried to make me take out $2500, when my confirmation email said that the deposit should be $400, and not in money actually taken out of my card.
    I later learned that hey scammed my mom. She had a very minor fender impact by another car. She drove the car to Thrifty, just to make sure that there is no damage. All appeared fine, but they told her that she has to pay another deposit ($550) for another car, while they check the car out. When they were returning the next car, they asked if there was any damage detected, but got no response. They asked for receipts of any repairs, no response. Then they were notified that all of the deposit if forfeited, because the car was "totaled". There was not even very noticeable scratch on the car. Thrifty agents took their money, wrote off a car in a perfect shape and likely pocketed the proceeds from that as well.
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    Commercial Insurance West Covina
    People mostly complain when they are not satisfied with the service. Mostly people complain from the insurance sector because it depends upon the market situation. One market down means your insurance value also decreases. Insurance agency is one of the most important sectors where many agencies are there but some agencies are providing proper information and some others are providing wrong information to make people fool. Have none of you ever fudged on your taxes like say added some extra donations they did not exist or claimed more mileage that was never driven. Well I’m almost positive you have and yes that is a federal crime. So all of you that are ready to place guilt without the legal hearing are hypocrites. As far as the sorry [***] ex employees throwing stones I’m more than certain that you all were compensated well beyond what any other employer would of ever done for you. Also I’m certain you were treated like family an invited to every function instead of how you should have been treated, like an employee. You all will have to answer for your accusations wither in sound body and mind or to your maker.
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    Lysanne Hébert
    Very bad service. We made a deposit of 600 $ and never been refund. It's impossible to contact them. Many restrictions to go in the countries around CZ. AVOID THIS COMPANY!

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