pay day loan calls
Complaint
Kim
Country: United States
I got a call at work today from a man with Indian accent stating his name is Eric Williams, Officer with Dept of Crime Prevention Investigation of New York City. He said I was a suspect in a case of defrauder. He wanted my attorney’s information and said he had an affidavit in front of him. He said "the police would be coming to my place of employment and putting me behind bars for 30 days." When I asked for the phone# there he said it was 646-461-3891 which is listed as a locksmith company in NY. I asked for an English speaking supervisor. He put on another India sounding man who said his name was Andy Smith, retribution officer. The caller ID showed the # as 052538374 which isn’t even enough #s for a telephone #. I quizzed them with many questions because they told me my social sec# and email address and home address asking me to verify that was me. I told them it might be but I wasn’t verifying anything until I understood what they were talking about. This is all because I applied online for a payday loan, but I never got the money and I never signed anything or accepted any loans. This seems to be some poor style of collections (which they broke every rule in the collection laws), or a scam. I am reporting this call to the CRIME Prevention department in our county law enforcement, and reporting it to the news to make people aware of scams.
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https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-618-5897#p79425778173086952
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-502-6812#p79423212332780724
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see these sites for similar complaints
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-618-5897#p79425778173086952
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-646-502-6812#p79423212332780724
https://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/_dK2 ... 8kwCvrwjM0KSO-Q
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https://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/IDDUf49WgwDukQjMvFILqA
They are reported to have gotten access to consumer credit report data, ans are using it, including things like SSN, past addresses, or employer information, in their fraudulent con game.
You can bet all their names are phony.
"said he had an affidavit in front of him"
Liar.
"the police would be coming to my place of employment and putting me behind bars for 30 days."
Owing debts, even real ones, isn't a crime.
"said his name was Andy Smith, retribution officer"
Whatever that is.
" The caller ID showed the # as 052538374 which isn’t even enough #s for a telephone #. "
They are reported to be spoofing caller id.
"they told me my social sec# and email address and home address asking me to verify that was me."
They have gotten hold of credit report data, which makes it easier to fake the appearance of some legitimate debt. Even then, they aren't very good at it.
"This is all because I applied online for a payday loan, but I never got the money and I never signed anything or accepted any loans"
They are also reported to have gotten hold of old payday loan data, probably from some on-line payday loan company that went bust.
"This seems to be some poor style of collections (which they broke every rule in the collection laws), or a scam"
There is no loan, and they are not real debt collectors. Still, what they are doing isn't very different from illegal acts commonly committed by other debt collectors collecting on payday loans.
" I am reporting this call to the CRIME Prevention department in our county law enforcement, and reporting it to the news to make people aware of scams."
That is the best thing you can do. The more people know about their scam, the more calls they will have to make to find a sucker to con.
https://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/pY9SOBT5VwCvDQjMyVpylg
I live in Missouri
You cannot depend on some stranger having your SSN or other identity information as proof you owe some debt. Even if you owe a debt, you cannot depend on such data as proof you owe it to some caller.
The more you appear to react, the more they will just keep raising it, or toss in scary threats, based on what they think they can get out of you.
With the "Dept of Crime Prevention Investigation", you would expect that at least it would be a call from Columbo, or Joe Friday, or maybe Batman.
This is ============ and i have you listed as the primary suspect on a case file which is going to be downloaded in your county court for further legal actions. The nature of my call is to ascertain your attorney's information so tht i can be able to fax the affidavits to your attorney before file ing the case against you.......
They give three false allegations . They do hve to information of the people of US with SSN,ADDRESS,BANK name and ACC, PHN NO, WORK NO, AND REFERENCE NUMBER. I kindly request you all to stop paying the payments cause u hve no loans pending and they are earning in rupees...................................................................... Indian is great and one of the best country but there are some people who are doing this to earn a lots of money and the US payday loan sites should stop giving "LEADS" (they are giving personal informations of the people in india who are applying for the loan in united states so in india it is easy to earn money sitting and dialing and collecting money from U.S. people) to india.
They have to get the money out of the country somehow.
"he was putting our call on an affidavit;"
So what. They often use quasi-legal gibberish to make their threats sound credible.
"he would take payments because he sympathized with me and my situation"
Isn't that nice of him. He's still a liar and a crook.
"He asked me to fax him over my TDL /which I did."
You know better now. This group appears to do that to use in later threats. Ignore all threats, they are a bunch of liars.
"now they have my picture and address"
These scammers are usually reported to have Indian accents, and to be calling from overseas. They are not coming to the U.S. to collect some fake "payday loan".
"I will be filing a complaint as well. Hope they catch these guys. "
File complaints with FBI, NYPD, and your local PD. Not likely they will do anything, since these scammers are overseas, but it will confirm that they are crooks, which is what you must know to not be conned.
"I put the phone number in search numbers and it came up unknown, "
They typically use their numbers for only a month or two, then change them to hide their trail. Legitimate debt collectors, even abusive ones, typically have months to years of complaints tied to their numbers on 800notes.com.
"Besides, I know enough that you have to have a notary public sign an affidavit to be valid. "
Doesn't matter what "document" they produce, it would mean nothing. There is one complant that they faxed some "document" supposedly from the "United States Supreme Court" (obviously phony, they deal with appeals of constitutional issues, not debt collection of payday loans, and you couldn't get an order from them on such an issue in a couple days if you were God).
Here is the # they called me from.
8185389546