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YouCanotFoolMe
Country: United States
Be Found Marketing (www.befoundmarketing.com) is just another scam.  The company is owned by Ray Kooenga and Charles Lloyd.  Ray Kooenga has been convicted of burglary in Oregon and California and Charles Lloyd received a judgement from the FTC for fraud. You can find out more here.

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=28710
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/08/meddata3.shtm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/search-engine-optimization/befoundmarketing-com/befoundmarketing-com-edapte-c-bd9ca.htm

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  • 0
    Charles Lloyd
    | 1 reply
    There's still no one here but you and I moron.

    None of my customers care about your BS when they get the results.  That's why there is just you here - spouting lies an making false connections to businesses I've never even brushed by - if they even existed.  

    I've been involved with a few businesses and bad partnerships over the years. But this laundry list of 30+ is just funny.  Most of these names I've never even heard of.  

    The culmination of my knowledge about marketing is benefiting my customers - that's what matters to me.  The strategy I provide attracts referrals and grows my client base naturally.  My rewards only come from clients who choose to pay me every month because I, unlike many people I've been in business with in the past, understand that to get money from people on an ongoing basis, you have to deliver superior value.  That's my focus.  That's what I do and that's who I am - unencumbered by bad technology partners who can't deliver results.  

    If you dare, look at the fact that you are alone here.  There are no real customer complaints.  All of these posts are created by you - even the fake employee that never got paid post.  So who is the liar?

    You are - 100%.  That's why you won't state your name.  Get some help.
    • 0
      Posh Limousine replies to Charles Lloyd
      Be-found marketing sure helped my company. I should have never stoped my services with them. But! I'm coming back to them if they let me? A google rep called me and told me maps was free. I did not know that so I dropped Charles, worest mastake I ever made. It is free but its hard to get listed where I was without someone knowing what there doing like befound marketing. It's been a big mess every since I left befound marketing. Thank's Charles for two great years!!
  • 0
    SEO Results (Charles)
    Yeah, let's discuss results I deliver since that should be the point of this discussion.  

    "Google Maps Marketing" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #3

    "Google Maps SEO" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #1 on Google

    "Local Maps Marketing" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #1 and #2 on Google

    "local maps seo" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    2 on Google

    "Google SEO marketing"

    number 2 and 3 on Google

    "local seo marketing"

    3 out of millions of results


    Yep, we beat the vast majority of our peers with a PR 1.  We must be doing something right - results speak for themselves. I'd love to spend more time writing for Be Found and I will, but success is accompanied by high demand for our time and resources.  I'll get to it though.  

    How about competitive markets?  Want some of those references?  Unfortunately, you and I will be the only ones reading them here, but hey, let's just show you some real cases and results since you refuse to watch the video that displays the results:

    http://www.googlemapmarketing.com/google-maps ... udy-vs-ppc.html  

    That client has a few sites we help manage and promote.  One is http://www.miamilimo.net

    Let's look at some positions.  

    Miami Limo (the most competitive phrase in that market)

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome& ... 488cb887e893d25

    top 3 map listing in the C spot

    Miami Limousine

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome& ... 488cb887e893d25

    Top ranked site and A listing.  

    Give him a call.  You are probably a competitor so do your best to sell him your BS while triple his business again.  

    Want some more? I have plenty of cases like these.

    You probably don't do you.  Can you spin that case in to a failure?  You can try.  My clients don't care - their phones ring and so does mine.  

    Ready to come out from under your rock?  I'm sure you have no assets to speak of so you even if I get a judgment against you for libel, you have nothing to lose.  Of course I'll sue you on principal because you've like, but, if you come clean and retract your lies.

    Real results in published here and remain fact. Everything you've claimed either irrelevant, completely unconnected to me or Be Found Marketing, or unsubstantiated with respect to the services we offer.

    On a regular basis, we run into refugees from other boiler room maps marketing companies and local SEO firms that bury their customers in penalties.  In fact, we created a service that is dedicated to helping them recover their presence on Google: http://www.befoundmarketing.com/Map_Listing_Recovery.html

    Perhaps you are one of the many bitter competitors who can't compete with me.  It sure sounds like you have a personal ax to grind. Anyone reading your ridiculous references and personal attacks would come to the conclusion that the attack is nothing but personal.

    So, you want results, I showed you a specific case here.  How about watching the video now?  You can see more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v495Zvmvdg

    Care to state your name yet and back up what you say?  The reason I keep mentioning that is that you know as well as I do that you can lie about anything anonymously with no recourse.  That's what you like to do apparently, so I'll keep asking for your name.  Moving on...

    We'll have some more case studies published this year along with new videos.  We've been hard at work.  I personally passed the Adwords test 2 years ago, but we don't manage Adwords now.  At the time when I passed, the only incentive to be "Qualified" was a $600 credit for the year which was nice.  To be honest, I'm not even sure if that qualification expires.  Either way, I'm glad you pointed it out on our site.  I don't manage adwords much and I certainly don't promote Adwords management so I'll remove that graphic at my leisure.

    Don't get me wrong, I've personally managed six figures in Adwords and I passed the first exam, but what we found that Adwords in many industries was very expensive and rife with click fraud.  We learned that by obtaining top organic rankings in highly competitive and expensive local markets, we could generate a much higher ROI.  

    Here is an article we posted on the topic of Local SEO vs. PPC:

    http://blog.befoundmarketing.com/ppc-vs-local ... ee-little-pigs/

    Have a read - perhaps it will shed light on why our strategy works.  

    Yeah, let's talk some more about results.  Are you ready to state there is real value in what we do or are you going to continue with baseless attacks.  

    Do you want to see more?  I have lots to show you or anyone who wants to improve their business growth.
  • 0
    Real Client
    Youcannotfoolme,

    I don't care how many DUI's or bad partnerships these guys have had in the past, I just read this entire post and all you have done is talk about the past.  Some of that stuff that you said seems irrefutable, but I don't give a f&^3 once again. Why? Because I could honestly say that I am a business owner has experienced an enormous amount of growth with my company through Be Found Marketing.  I get phone calls on a day-to-day basis, so why would it matter to me what there criminal record looks like?  I use them to get results, not to be there buddies.  People that are great at breaking into cars get a job with AAA when they get out of jail.  In the past (before I got key-less entry) I would often lock my keys in my car and ex-felons would be the ones to un-lock my car for me.  Do I care that they are ex-felons? No.  As long as they were unable to get my car unlocked so I could recover the keys I didn't care what they were involved in in the past.

    In conclusion, you could sit here and make claims about there past, but I know for a fact that TODAY they are providing results for my company and I as well as everyone else I have referred them to.

    So quit wasting your time with the past and look toward the future, Obama sniffed cocaine before and said in his biography that it was "his drug of preference" while he was Occidental College in L.A.  Does his past usage of cocaine make him not qualified to be President of the United States today? Absolutely not.

    The past is the past.
  • 0
    Truth
    Not sure why you lashed out at me. Im not the one posting all these blogs about you. YouCannotFoolMe did. Instead, you assumed it was me and tried to make me into a scapegoat for blogs I didnt write. Bad move.
  • 0
    The Truth?
    Is that you Michael Markman? What blogs are you talking about anonymous poster?
  • 0
    State Your Name and Back Up Your Lies
    Of course, none of these complaints are real because they are attacks based on false connections to the business practices of another marketing/technical development company known as PBH LLC, not complaints.  It is true that the principals of Be Found Marketing, myself included (Charles Lloyd), were engaged in a business with PBH LLC, however, their service offering does not closely resemble that of Be Found Marketing other than that they are related to search marketing in general.

    They operate a PPC management model and call center (from what we still believe they are doing - it's been a couple of years sense that relatioship ended).  Unlike them, we don't use call centers to grow our business and we don't offer PPC management services as a primary service offering. Referrals drive our growth because we deliver real results that few companies can or do.  

    Real customers of Be Found Marketing know what real results are.  Here is a real result from one of many many ACTUAL customers:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v495Zvmvdg

    It's a rough, but straight forward, frill free visual parade of results we've delivered in just the limo industry.  

    Limo SEO is our marketing arm for the limo industry.  Go check out the results in the video and compare them to what you find on searches in Google.

    Can you argue with results?

    Yep, the results speak for themselves and that's what we deliver to our clients.  You can attack us with personal references to a lawsuit that occurred in 2002 or baseless claims that attack the credibility of our service offering.  In the end, results and value are what counts.  Perhaps you can't deliver it, so you go on the attack.  We deliver it in the most competitive local markets and that is all our clients care about, and it's also why we outperform Google PPC and other boiler room Google maps SEO services.

    With the value we deliver (that you have now seen if you watched the video that proves it in a mini case study of an actual customer - one of many), we have nothing to hide.  

    Good luck in your plight to change reality. I'm more than happy to share more results if you, or anyone would like to confirm them or even speak with our clients.  We are very happy that our clients have used us to obtain unprecedented growth.  That's what we are all about and the results are second to none.

    Charles Lloyd
  • 0
    Results from Be Found Marketing
    We deliver results and that should also be a part of the discussion that should be the point of this discussion.  

    Here is how we compete among our peers:

    "Google Maps Marketing" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #3

    "Google Maps SEO" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #1 on Google

    "Local Maps Marketing" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    #1 and #2 on Google

    "local maps seo" for http://www.befoundmarketing.com

    2 on Google

    "Google SEO marketing"

    number 2 and 3 on Google

    "local seo marketing"

    3 out of millions of results


    Yep, we beat the vast majority of our peers with a PR 1.  We must be doing something right - results speak for themselves. I'd love to spend more time writing for Be Found and I will, but success is accompanied by high demand for our time and resources.  I'll get to it though.  

    How about competitive markets?  Want some of those references?  Unfortunately, you and I will be the only ones reading them here, but hey, let's just show you some real cases and results since you refuse to watch the video that displays the results:

    http://www.googlemapmarketing.com/google-maps ... udy-vs-ppc.html  

    That client has a few sites we help manage and promote.  One is http://www.miamilimo.net

    Let's look at some positions.  

    Miami Limo (the most competitive phrase in that market)

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome& ... 488cb887e893d25

    top 3 map listing in the C spot

    Miami Limousine

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome& ... 488cb887e893d25

    Top ranked site and A listing.  

    Give him a call.  You are probably a competitor so do your best to sell him your BS while triple his business again.  

    Want some more? I have plenty of cases like these.

    You probably don't do you.  Can you spin that case in to a failure?  You can try.  My clients don't care - their phones ring and so does mine.  

    Ready to come out from under your rock?  I'm sure you have no assets to speak of so you even if I get a judgment against you for libel, you have nothing to lose.  Of course I'll sue you on principal because you've like, but, if you come clean and retract your lies.

    Real results in published here and remain fact. Everything you've claimed either irrelevant, completely unconnected to me or Be Found Marketing, or unsubstantiated with respect to the services we offer.

    On a regular basis, we run into refugees from other boiler room maps marketing companies and local SEO firms that bury their customers in penalties.  In fact, we created a service that is dedicated to helping them recover their presence on Google: http://www.befoundmarketing.com/Map_Listing_Recovery.html

    Perhaps you are one of the many bitter competitors who can't compete with me.  It sure sounds like you have a personal ax to grind. Anyone reading your ridiculous references and personal attacks would come to the conclusion that the attack is nothing but personal.

    So, you want results, I showed you a specific case here.  How about watching the video now?  You can see more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v495Zvmvdg

    Care to state your name yet and back up what you say?  The reason I keep mentioning that is that you know as well as I do that you can lie about anything anonymously with no recourse.  That's what you like to do apparently, so I'll keep asking for your name.  Moving on...

    We'll have some more case studies published this year along with new videos.  We've been hard at work.  I personally passed the Adwords test 2 years ago, but we don't manage Adwords now.  At the time when I passed, the only incentive to be "Qualified" was a $600 credit for the year which was nice.  To be honest, I'm not even sure if that qualification expires.  Either way, I'm glad you pointed it out on our site.  I don't manage adwords much and I certainly don't promote Adwords management so I'll remove that graphic at my leisure.

    Don't get me wrong, I've personally managed six figures in Adwords and I passed the first exam, but what we found that Adwords in many industries was very expensive and rife with click fraud.  We learned that by obtaining top organic rankings in highly competitive and expensive local markets, we could generate a much higher ROI.  

    Here is an article we posted on the topic of Local SEO vs. PPC:

    http://blog.befoundmarketing.com/ppc-vs-local ... ee-little-pigs/

    Have a read - perhaps it will shed light on why our strategy works.  

    Yeah, let's talk some more about results.  Are you ready to state there is real value in what we do or are you going to continue with baseless attacks.  

    Do you want to see more?  I have lots to show you or anyone who wants to improve their business growth.
  • 0
    Charles L
    For the record, I have not been arrested as you claim.  Since you made the claim, back it up scumbag.  State your name.
  • 0
    FBI Watching
    Contacts from ex-employees and customers are closing the noose.

    http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publication ... reat-assessment
  • 0
    Youcannotfoolme
    Charles. You are disgusting.  You cheat on your wife with Elizabeth, Shanna your little Mexican totty, and othes. You have two young sons at home.  They do not diserve the pain you give them and your wife.  Be a man!
  • 0
    Femme
    This male pig cheats on his wife and now he's got her blaming herself on her own blog!  http://faemom.wordpress.com/category/a-wifely-duty/
    Somebody should do something about this pig!  I hate to see her cry herself to bed with no money as he spends family money on girlfriends and his young sons hope that all will get better.  What a horrible situation.
  • 0
    JulieSmiles
    This man is a real pig!  I feel so sorry for his wife.  I found this trash.

    Charles Lloyd, Edapte, The Placement Specialists, LocalListingSite.com
       
    After research into Charles Lloyd, Be Found Marketing, Edapte.com, LocalListingSite.com, TPSLocal.com, the Placement Specialists, Mark Sykes, Adam Kluger, Steve Sparks, Stacie Hatfield, Ray Kooenga and others players I have found they have not only ripped off clients but also employees deceiving them to believe they honestly performed guaranteed placement on the top half of Google and other search engines 24/7 for a low monthly flat fee.

    Some of the interviewed former sales people share tales of double selling exclusive keywords in the same city. The promises of only representing one of each type business in each city was ignored, as was the client would always be on top (in some cases the clients were promised the top 1, 2 or 3 positions) 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, no matter how many clicks they received. They were also promised unlimited keywords.

    Sales people tell tales of their clients not being up in over a month. Also pay cuts and bounced checks. One former employee stated that between June 2008 and November 2008 the company took in well over a million dollars. This did not stop their paychecks from bouncing at least 3 times.

    Lloyd was known for his rants, raves and cursing at sales people and support staff as well as clients. He bullied others to get what he wanted. He even blogged clients who upset him.

    Lloyd has been involved in several telemarketing scams including medical billing which the FTC prosecuted him for. He has many business names which he changes almost weekly. He is even listed in a book about crime in America.

    According to a female former employee, he sexually harassed her and forced her to even perform oral acts in his office while he was "pitching" prospective clients.

    We have discovered pictures of Lloyd and a blond having sex in a parking lot in Laguna Hills, as well as them exiting a hotel near their former office.

    In Charles Lloyd's office in Laguna Hills he was teamed up at one point with Carl Perkins. The names used there was Premium Local Listings, Performance Local Listings, Premium ROI and several other names. At one point Perkins locked Lloyd and the sales staff out of their office on payday stating that he (Perkins) fired everyone for insubordination because everyone was going to work at Lloyd's new company. There is an ongoing battle for clients and money between these 2 individuals.

    Their companies not only took money and did not perform the promised service, but they are also well known for double and triple billing clients even after the clients canceled.

    The company took a major downturn in October/November when the salespeople left because they was not being paid, eventhough the company had residual monthly billings contracts in excess of $80,000 per month. According to a former salesperson who now works at a competitor, she lost all confidence in the ability of Lloyd to service her customers. She not only had bounced checks, but had paychecks delayed and is still owed money.

    The investigation is ongoing.

    Michael
    Orange County, California
    U.S.A.
  • 0
    Charles
    Note the name of the poster "Julie Smiles" does not match the signature, "Michael".  The lies start right at the top.

    For starters:

    Produce the book that refers to me as a criminal.

    Produce the photos you supposedly have from your proposterous story about forced oral sex. If that is true, then why am I not in jail or at the very least being sued for sexual harassment?

    Can you post anything that substiates these outlandish claims that, even if remotely true, have nothing to do with our services?

    This was in fact written by a representative of a competitor.  These are levels to which they must stoop to attempt to affect our business.

    Sad indeed.
  • 0
    Charles
    LOL!  Yeah, that's relevant! I'd like to hear from the FBI - if they saw what I do, they might be able to provide some good referrals.
  • 0
    Charles Lloyd knows the truth
    Dear CHARLES,

    You KNOW the truth! You know you are a SCUMBAG. You RUIN LIVES, including those of your wife & Children.

    You HID Money from the Government by buying that home in Orange County under your WIFE's Maiden name.

    Everywhere you go you take, and leave owing money on rent and wages.

    And CHARLES, "At the end of the DAY ...." you are and will always be a scumbag and scammer.


    http://books.google.com/books?id=Ipvh76CryVoC ... %20scam&f=false

    <iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" style="border:0px" src="http://books.google.com/books?id=Ipvh76CryVoC ... R2&output=embed" width=500 height=500></iframe>

    Book Title: Crime: Computer Viruses to Twin Towers

    Copyright 2005 H. Thomas Milhorn

    Universal Publishers Boca Raton, Florida *USA

    ISBN: 1-58112-489-9

    www.universal-publishers.com

    Dear CHARLES, If you were as computer literate or SMART as you want to think you are then you could have found this on your own. Because you can't even find references about you on "GOOGLE" it is very doubtful that you can do more than steal people's money by claiming that you are smarter than they are.

    I guess folks are pretty DUMB to be scammed by you.

    And CHARLES, Dear Sweet Innocent Misunderstood Victimized Charles, "AT THE END OF THE DAY" you are and will always be a scammer, a liar, a cheat and a fraud.

    And CHARLES, "AT THE END OF THE DAY" your wife and children deserve better. One day your children will know about your childish behavior and how big a fraud you are. I hope that "AT THE END OF THE DAY" they will not turn out to be like you.
  • 0
    No more battered women
    Such a pig. I only hope she has enough sense to get away from him before his anger problems, her words, injures her or the children. This charles Lloyd sounds like an OJ Simpson waiting to happen. Run wife run. Better to be alone than your children without a mother.
  • 0
    Be Found Marketing Another Failure
    The following companies where run and shut down by Charles Lloyd. Some are failures and the rest by the authorities.  Be Found has been Found!


    Cyber Phrases
    Star Position
    http://www.seorefugee.com/forums/general-off- ... menu-redux.html
    Billboard Ranking
    Rocket Position
    Search Climbers
    American Keywords
    Simply Voice
    http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/th ... ponseTechnology
    Go Dotless
    http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/th ... ponseTechnology
    Surf Speak
    http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/th ... ponseTechnology
    TopPg1
    Clients 1
    http://clientplacementservices.blogspot.com/
    Portal Response Technology
    http://portalresponsetechnologyscam.blogspot.com/
    One Top Keyword
    Search Direct Matrix
    Search Direct Media
    One Top Firm
    Client Placement Services
    http://clientplacementservices.blogspot.com/
    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=28710
    Placement Today
    Top Search Solutions
    The Placement Specialists
    Edapte
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/search-engine-opt ... pte-c-bd9ca.htm
    Top Space Now
    Search Solutions
    The PRT Group
    IP Marketing Concepts    
    Client Windows.com
    PlacementToday.com
    Top Banner Ads
    Be Found Marketing
  • 0
    Tester
    This short, over weight, over sexed, hothead junior college dropout shouldn't be allowed to breath air, none the less reproduce.  Scum like this should be wiped from the face of the earth.  He hits on all the women that work for him.  I've heard that now it's so bad that all he has is guys with him anymore and all of those have records and drug problems.  No rational human being will work with him.
  • 0
    Wendy Whitman
    I have worked for Ray and charels both of witch work very hard too get the download "plug in" out there. Yes they are not the whole internet but the sales reps. are straight forward about that telling pepole that they olny capture a portion of the internet. They offered great reasons for people too download the plug in, such as child predator locator and other things as well. Unfortunately I was let go serveral years ago for what I would say was not a good reason. But all in all the sales pitch explains everything I cant see how anyone could call it a scam it is great advertising.

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