30 day policy to cancel your membership

Complaint

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Phil
Country: United States
I am a member of LifeTime fitness in Bloomingdael Illinois.

This 30 day policy is a complete fraud! God forbid something should happen in your life that you need to open up some free cash and cancel a luxury such as a fitness center, Life Time does not care AT ALL!!  I am currently going through the ridiculous procedures required to cancel a gym membership at Lifetime fitness. In today’s day and age with gas prices on the rise and people running into unexpected financial situations month to month, Lifetime Fitness shows no remorse or understanding to its customers and members.

It is currently June 13th 2008, and they have just openly admitted on the phone at their executive offices that it does not take 30 days to cancel a membership only that they use it as a way to charge you for and extra month fees! So regardless of my wishes to stop using their product they are going to take my money anyway. I will be calling my Credit Card Company and possibly cancelling my credit card or not allowing them to charge it.

When I signed up for Lifetime 8 years ago, they stood on a policy that they would not be another Ballys Fitness who locks you into contracts and makes you pay extra money after your wishes to cancel your membership...but it appears that they have in fact BECOME Ballys part 2 in the Chicago land area.

This is how Lifetime treats members who signed up and paid them before they put up the first brick for the building, they are UN sympathetic to their member’s life situations and all they care about is YOUR MONEY!

DO NOT SIGN UP AT LIFETIME FITNESS! YOU WILL REGRET IT!

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    tj
    | 14 replies
    Most health club contracts are scams.  They make their money on the New Year resolution crowd more than the people who actually show up.  Cancellation attemps are either deflected for various alleged defects, "mistakenly" ignored or lost, or only acknowledged verbally, charges to consumers' accounts continue, and if the consumer gets wise and closes the account, after the supposedly cancelled contract has ended, some loan company shows up demanding the full balance with "no knowledge" of any cancellation.  Even cancellation terms included in the contract, such as moving away from all alternative member gyms, health issues with doctor's letter, being sent to Iraq, often result in the same run around.

    It has been a scam for decades in this industry.

    Search on Ballys and you can find many similar complaints.

    Some states have special laws addressing health club contracts.  Contact your state Attorney General, since some AGs have sued and reached settlements with some of them.

    Read your contract, keep all paperwork, and send all notices in the manner indicated in the contract, sent certified return receipt requested for proof of receipt, with a second sent by 1st class mail so they can't just refuse to pick it up, documenting both in your records.  Then be prepared to dispute unauthorized charges and close any account they had access to if they continue to charge you, file a consumer fraud complaint with your local DA or state AG, contact a local TV or newspaper consumer reporter, and sue them or their surrogates in small claims court for willfull reporting of erroneous negative credit information, deceptive collection, etc.

    Much of the health club/gym membership industry is not a business, it's a racket.
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      Michelle replies to tj
      | 11 replies
      Dear people -
      Not that I am defending Lifetime but I am the manager of two small fitness clubs.  We require 14 days written notice (prior to your next payment date) which is clearly outlined in your membership agreement.  If you choose to ignore that, why should the fitness club have to be held hostage by it's clients and their techno savvy complaint process?

      If you sign an agreement, then live up to it!  You wonder why the cost of goods is so high?  It's because deadbeats sign agreements, then renege on them.  I hold people to their agreements!  And let's say they quit the gym by cancelling their credit cards - if they ever want to rejoin - they have to pay me what they owed way back when or I don't want their business!  Business is difficult enough in this ridiculous economy but to have to provide a product or a service to someone who cannot be responsible is a joke!  Buy a treadmill or a home gym and stay away from centers that have hundreds of thousands invested in their equipment if you cannot be responsible!
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        guestnoob replies to Michelle
        | 2 replies
        Michelle, really, so ALL clubs are as honest as you? seriously, are you that naive? I have been trying for over 5 months of trying to cancel my lifetime membership and YES signing the cancellation form & allowing the lengthy 30 day policy, but when it goes out to 5 MONTHS that is theft! Who is being disingenuous or dis-honest here, the club or me? ONLY hostages here are the members!!!! And to call people deadbeats is so professional isn't it? Wow, with that kind of blog chat I will guess you are a lifetime employee or just a really bad manager!
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          Tim replies to guestnoob
          Read your agreement and be responsible. Do you have no honor for your word and signed commitment?   Not only is there an obesity epidemic in America, there is an epidemic of learned helplessness and playing the part of the victim. Man up and stop being so helpless.
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          niece replies to guestnoob
          Yes i agree. I cannot believe that they are allowed to commit highway robbery. and yes she was very unprofessional
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        MG replies to Michelle
        How about the services that are offered. We pay for the spa to get good service and they don't fall through. Management says no refunds, so we are basically paying for bad service..
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        angelo replies to Michelle
        Take your written notification and shove it! Uf a member comes to your office and wants to quit there membership! So be it ! U dont have to make it harder! For members!
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        DennisParker replies to Michelle
        Your blog provided us valuable information to work on. You have done a marvellous job! Please keep on posting such quality articles,
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        Sandra replies to Michelle
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        Questions for stacy: 1) If they notify you 14 days in advance, do you still charge them an extra month or does it end after that 14 day notice, thereby actually making it a 45 day notice in reality?  2) Do you have a lengthy contract with so much crap in it that no one actually reads it?  3) Do you actually verbalize the points above to their faces before they sign the contract or is it some kind of small print thing?  4) This is most important, because it either validates your complaints or invalidates them completely --- Do they actually have to walk into your gym to cancel, so you can try to sell them on a million things they dont need, and wheel and deal them into more time with a gym membership they evidently wont use?  Or  perhaps can they give you the notice online?   If you said yes to the online bit, then I actually respect you, and where's your gym... Ill be right over.  If you said no, then you're sheisty as well, so how the heck can you get off calling people deadbeats when you've made it impossible to cancel. What if they cant make it in?  What if theyve been sent to iraq, what if they got a new job in BFE where they're unable to come in during business hours?  What if all sorts of stuff!
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          Sandra replies to Sandra
          | 1 reply
          Oops, those questions were directed at Michelle, the gym owner.
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            Gino replies to Sandra
            Michelle won't answer.... She is a crook like the rest of them.
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        Tonya Ferguson replies to Michelle
        Dear Michelle,

        Having previously owned a gym membership it doesn't and shouldn't take 14 days to cancel a membership. Fitness Industry is a seasonal business and fitness centers need to sign as many people up with contracts to carry them through the off season. Quite honestly, it is just a way to get the most from the paying customer. If a member pays you to attend your fitness center then they are paying for your service. Once they inform you whether by email, in person, certified letter or phone call,that they no longer want your service or possibly can't afford your service for whatever reason you should not be able to continue to charge them for services not rendered. Requiring a 14 or 30 day written or certified notice is just a way for the fitness center to continue have incoming funds. Your statement "It's because deadbeats sign agreements, then renege on them." No these people just want to be able to cancel their membership in a reasonable amount of time. They aren't asking for you to provide free services they simply want to be able to cancel their membership. If your business is not viable without using unfair billing practices it is you then that is the deadbeat by trying to force your members to pay for something they no longer wish to use. Find a more viable business just like I had to do. Do a service and let them pay for it but don't gouge them. So many fitness centers won't let you join without a contract so that it really makes it difficult for those struggling financially but needing to work out. Bear in mind sell them the fitness don't hold their credit card hostage because you need money to pay your bills. Thats on you not them.

        During the time I had a fitness facility if a member wanted to cancel then we would immediately not charge their account anymore. If they were canceling during the middle of the month that they had already paid for then we would not charge them any more and whatever payment had been received was let to run out. On occasion if the member had paid but had not attended at all during that time we gave it special consideration as many times real life gets in the way. Members may have sick loved ones, lost their job, going through a financially stressful time but they are still people just like you and I so we always tried to treat them fairly.

        After all if their circumstances changed we would most certainly be hopeful they would return to our fitness center.
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        ToDoAboutNothing replies to Michelle
        Ok, so they may have changed some things since this post... but I just went in yesterday to cancel my membership fully prepared to do battle.  I printed out the cancellation form, two copies so they could sign my copy so i had proof they received it, I was going to record the whole conversation. and I went in, and they called over the membership agent and I told them what we needed to do, and she said, ok, took down my number, said I was canceled and made sure I got my cancellation confirmation email before i left told me when my last charge would be, how many days would be prorated, I accepted the 30 days... its in my contract, Im fine with that... and I walked out, it was painless, they didn't even need it in writing.  just to come in OR have it in writing.  they didn't even try to sell you out of it.  all a bunch of hype.
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      Tc replies to tj
      | 1 reply
      As a gym employee we get really sick and tired of explaining it to you idiots. When you cancel and you cry because you don't want to follow what the contract says. Then you yelp us and you get to slander us because you don't want to hold up your end of the deal. So sick of you self entitled clowns.
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        JH replies to Tc
        Because of us self entitled clowns, you have a job. Sure, we should just go away and exercise at home.
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    DW8055
    | 3 replies
    Last I checked MOST infact all membership require a 30 day notice, in reading my agreement at Life Time Fitness so long as I cancel my membership by the 5th of the month I will not be billed and ALAS!!!  I was NOT billed again. Read your contracts and stop bitching about your inabilty to READ!!!  I love Life Time Fitness and would have stayed a member if there was a location where I currently live.  As for the addional post...explain a scam???  The clubs provide a service, YOU SIGN?  Hmmmm seems pretty up front to me.  More-on!
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      Bollocks replies to DW8055
      I am relocating to a place where LFT does not even exist. I got a last minute job towards the end of the month. Doesnt LFT need to create a gym at the new location so I can use their service for the free month I am paying them for ? They should right - I pay , you serve. You cant serve ? I dont pay.

      LFT is great but they need to sucker punch their policy makers. Ive paid them on time every month - when I cant help it and they cant build a service , then they can go take a BIG HIKE
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      Mura replies to DW8055
      | 1 reply
      Really, when I walked in and requested to put my LT membership on hold, I was asked to write a letter to that effect, and because I had requested 1 day after being billed for that month, I was told that I would be billed 1 more month. Grudgingly, I agreed. Now, it's been 2 months beyond the 2nd month, and I just saw my CC being billed again. When the 1st wrong billing occurred, I called the LT branch and spoke to someone, and was asked, DO U HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT YOU GAVE TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE. Really guys? I am going to fight them tooth and nail. And their corporate it going to hear from me. And the Media in Atlanta, including Clark Howard show is going to hear from me. And RipOffReport.com is going to get a new entry. And every forum, including Facebook, Twitter, Google+ will hear about this on a weekly basis till LT pays me back every cent they have stolen from me. AND, the day I find the copy of the letter I have somewhere, I will sue them if they do not stop this nonsense and pay me back immediately.
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        Priti Jain replies to Mura
        YOu are right. I am having hte same problem. I haven't saved the cancellation form.they have been charging my credit card  since 4 months and have taken my membership card at the time of cancellation. This is all a fraud. Greg  Gilberston is a fraud membership advisor. They have a team and they keep changing their locations.

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