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citizen65
Country: United States
Both of my adult children were contacted via telephone by individuals   claiming a complaint was registered against me and if I do not contact the "firm" within 48 hours the firm will be forced to make a decision without my consent. My son was very concerned and called the number they provided 855-265-6780.  He spoke with William Brewer who refused to give any information.  My daughter got the same voicemail from a woman named "Elaine."  I called the number and asked to speak with "Elaine." I gave the "case number" and was told William Brewer was handling my case and was transferred to his extension.  I asked Mr. Brewer what type of business this is and why they were contacting me.  Mr. Brewer asked me to confirm the last 4 digits of my SSN.  When I refused to do so, citing concerns of identity theft he stated we were "at an impasse."  I again refused to provide personal information at which time he stated he could continue the conversation if I confirmed my date of birth which I did. Mr. Brewer said the company is called TCF & Associates based in Murrieta, CA with offices in Las Vegas, NV and Ft. Lauderdale, FL.  He said they were hired by a bank, while I did have an account with this bank over 10 years ago the past the dates Mr. Brewer gave were not consistent with my actual account information.  When asked questions such as the name of local counsel, date of cause of action, and other inquiries to determine whether or not this was a legitimate call Mr. Brewer became extremely defensive and rude.  I asked if he was a lawyer; he refused to answer.  He stated he sent 3 letters I told him I never got anything in the mail.  He told me I had no right to see anything in writing and that he does not file against everyone but because of my attitude he will make sure that I am filed against.  I asked to speak with his supervisor and before I finished my sentence was put on hold. After 10 minutes on hold I hung up and redialed this time asking for the supervisor of the legal dept.  The man who answered knew nothing about what type of company it is, said he is only a switchboard operator and transferred me back to Mr. Brewer.  When I got Mr. Brewer on the line again I repeated my request to speak with his superior.  He claimed to be the supervisor and yelled at me that I have called 4 times this morning, which is untrue, and I am harassing him.  He threatened that not only will he make sure I am "filed against" for the collection money but will add a harassment complaint against me.  At this point Mr. Brewer said we were speaking on a recorded line and repeated his threats of lawsuit then hung up on me.  The entire incident seemed so suspicious and unprofessional I looked the company up online and found multiple reports of scamming and fraud identical to what I experienced.  I contacted the bank directly and was informed that they have not had anything to do with my account in years and knew nothing of TCF & Ass. or William Brewer.  I googled "William Brewer Murrieta, CA complaints" and found numerous stories and warnings against him individually using different company names.  I urge anyone who receives a similar phone call or message to report it immediately and do not give any information to them.

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    Jorge Hernandez
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    I got a call from a 877-737-9522 stating that it's Trover Consulting Firm. I have a student loan that I owe money with Citibank back from 2007 and they called my on Sept 29th stating that they are going to garnish my wages. It's strange but I did research on the phone number and it was recently assigned on the 26th with Verizon Business. They called my work so my boss texted me to notify me and even he said it sounded sketchy. I did happen to call Citibank and was able to track down my loan and it's supposedly with TCF & Associates, I honestly don't know if it's real or not. How can I find out in order to actually pay it off and not fall into a scam.

    P.S. - Also their domain troverconsultingfirm.com was created recently on 9/24/2016.
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      Guillermo Gonzalez replies to Jorge Hernandez
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      I got the exact same call as you but I have paid one time (1300.00) please let me know if you found out anything new in order to stop this I will let you know as well
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        TY replies to Guillermo Gonzalez
        I have recieved the same calls, and threats at my work. They tried to get me to pay them 1000.00 they even sent a fax to my work. They are not real. I called the real office. They numbers are not the same as the fax they send to you. They are horrible people!
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      Christy Hembree replies to Jorge Hernandez
      Trover Solutions, Inc. (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”), a Delaware corporation, believes, based on its experience and assessment of its market, that it is a leading independent provider of outsourcing of subrogation and certain other medical claims recovery and cost containment services to the U.S. private healthcare payor industry and of outsourcing of subrogation recovery services to the U.S. property and casualty insurance industry. The Company’s primary business is medical claims recovery, and its primary product is subrogation recovery, which generally entails the identification, investigation and recovery of accident-related medical benefits incurred by its clients on behalf of their insureds, but for which other persons or entities have primary responsibility. The Company’s clients’ rights to recover the value of these medical benefits, arising by law or contract, are generally known as the right of subrogation and are generally paid from the proceeds of liability or workers’ compensation insurance. The Company’s other medical claims recovery services include (1) the auditing of the bills of medical providers, particularly hospitals, for accuracy, correctness and compliance with contract terms (“provider bill audit”), (2) the recovery of overpayments attributable to duplicate payments, failures to coordinate benefits and similar errors in payment (“overpayments”), and (3) the auditing of physician evaluation and management claims for consistency with medical records, in accordance with federal guidelines (“MD audit”). The Company offers its healthcare recovery services on a nationwide basis to health maintenance organizations (“HMOs”), indemnity health insurers, self-funded employee health plans, companies that provide claims administration services to self-funded plans (referred to as “third-party administrators”), Blue Cross and Blue Shield organizations and provider organized health plans. Current clients include Humana Inc., Kaiser Permanente, Wellpoint Health Network Inc. and The Principal Financial Group. The Company had 39.9 million and 41.6 million lives under contract from its clientele at December 31, 2003 and 2002, respectively.

           The Company has three segments: (1) Healthcare Recovery Services, which encompasses its four healthcare recovery products: healthcare subrogation, provider bill audit, overpayments, and MD audit; (2) Property and Casualty Recovery Services, which is subrogation recovery services for property and casualty insurers, sold under the brand name TransPaC Solutions; and (3) Software, which is subrogation recovery software in a browser-based application service provider (ASP) form, sold under the name Troveris. See Item 7. “Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations — Healthcare Recovery Services”, “— Property and Casualty Recovery Services”, “— Software” and Item 8. “Financial Statements and Supplementary Information — Note 15 — Segment Information” for financial information about the Company’s segments. See Exhibit 99.1 for a discussion of certain risk factors relating to the Company.
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      Ty replies to Jorge Hernandez
      Hi can you tell me who to report them to? They are harassing me at my work. This is horrible people!
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    stan
    Does anyone recognize this number by chance? 844-755-4702. Minot if maybe I've been scammed or not. Please post.
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    viper
    Could you please tell me if a Mike Richards is affiliated with this company? It sounds like the same things he told me., but the number he uses is always blocked when he calls , but the number I called him back on was, 8447554702. Any help would be appreciated.
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    Miranda
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    Sadly enough, I just found out today that I've paid these guys almost $3000 in the last year and it's all [***]??!! Dude!! Any way to cancel a year old credit card payment if I can prove it's a scam??!!
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      Contact FTC.. replies to Miranda
      This group may be a spin-off of the "Rincon" or "Thai Han" rackets shut down by FTC several years ago.
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    Michael griffin
    Yeah I was told I owe $10,800 on a back debt and I had to pay $3,500 to pay it off

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