Complaint

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Debra M. Persiano
Country: United States
I got a call today at home from a man stating he was a process server for Collin County DA's Office and he is with the Sheriff's office and needed to come serve a warrant on me.  I was shocked and asked why?  He stated do you live ....are you still at this address are you now at this address and I stated who are you?  He again, stated he was from the county going to serve court papers on me today. He gave me a toll free number for what he stated was the county's office which is 1 866.872.6116 gave me a case no. which he called a Cause No. 008307-TX. I called the number was transferred to a Mr. Fisher's office who stated that law suite in the amount of $6,214.24 was filed in Collin Co., Tx and that warrant was out for me.  He then after back and forth said let me get more information from my secretary and state this was for an outstanding debt in from Capital One a credit card that I obtained several years back and had disputes over interest charges etc.  He stated that if I did not want to go to court or jail that I could pay $1,951.00 in full by end of business today and this matter could be cleared up.  I explained that I recently lost my job etc.  Anyway, he stated that I needed to call him back by EOB today or they will serve the papers.  Ok, so that was a heads up for me.  I called the DA's office nothing is filed on me as of today, after searching PMG it is clear that they do not practice best practices for collections and have been in trouble for this before back in 2004.  I need someone to give me advise. I want to pay off my debt, I don't want this type of collections to continue this upset me, made my blood pressure raise, this type of collections are not the right thing to do.  Had they called and ask to make arrangements or give me an opportunity to clear the matter, rather then threaten me by taken legal action, or harassment stating they are sending a sheriff over today.  This is wrong, bad business, and should not continue this company is bad news.

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  • 0
    No friend
    You're the one who needs a job, after FTC sued your employer for running a fraudulent debt collection "shakedown".
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    RESPECTABLE
    | 1 reply
    Pamela Mathews is a very respectable person.  You can tell that you have never met her or you would not talk the crap you do.  It amazes me that there are people like yourself that still have nothing better to do in life but rag on others. It does not matter who it is as long as someone will listen to your lies and maybe be stupid enough to believe them.

    Get a life of your own
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      Greg Jennings replies to RESPECTABLE
      You obviously didnt know about her overpaying heself by 20 k monthly
  • 0
    The game is up
    She doesn't learn, nor do you.
  • 0
    A little wisdon..
    When your "reputation" precedes you, karma is not far behind.
  • 0
    Respectable?
    Was she respectable when she was working for Thai Han?
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    MISS NFORMED
    PAMELA MATHEWS NEVER WORKED FOR THAI YOU IDIOT.  WHERE DOES YOUR INFORMATION COME FROM OR DO YOU MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO.  SHE WORKED FOR STEWART PHILLIPS AND JIM PHELPS,  AND YES SHE WAS RESPECTED BY ALL
  • 0
    Then what were
    Stewart Phillips and Jim Phelps company(s)?
  • 0
    Pam Mathews and Thai Han
    So then why is she suing Thai Han?
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    More details from Pacer on FTC action
    In issuing the preliminary injunction at the hearing on November 7, 2011,
    the Court reviewed, in detail, the voluminous evidence of Defendants’ violative collection practices, including Defendants’ standard talk off scripts, closing scripts,collector rebuttal answers to frequently asked questions, and legal resources guiding collectors in how to best menace consumers with the legal process. These scripts and guidelines all support the central deception perpetrated by Defendants, that the consumer is a defendant in a lawsuit and must pay their purported debt to settle the action. The scripts were contained in employee handbooks that were found in Defendants Jason Begley and Wayne Lunsford’s office at the corporate
    headquarters (docket (“dkt”) # 25-1 p.23–25-4 p.9), in managers’ offices at some of the collections rooms (dkt # 25-4 p.10, 25-1 pp. 6-7), and numerous loose leaf copies of these scripts and guidelines were found on collectors’ desks at the four offices the FTC entered on October 13 and 14, 2011 pursuant to the temporary restraining order (“TRO.”). See e.g., dkt ## 25 pp.6-7. Copies of these same scripts, rebuttals, and legal resources were also found at four additional offices run by Defendants that FTC investigator Ann Stahl visited in late December 2011, while accompanied by one of receiver Richard Weissman’s staff members.
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    More from Pacer
    "These deceptive scripts and guidelines were the only scripts and guidelines found in Defendants’ offices and squarely establish that it was their pattern and practice to collect debt in violation of the FTC Act and the FDCPA."

    Nice footnote:

    The scripts and other collector instructions were not found at the office
    located at 1181 California Ave., Suite 203, which appeared to have been cleared of documents. See third Stahl dec. ¶ 10. The FTC did not inspect the office located in Cedar Rapids, Iowa because that office was shuttered in October 2011, when the lease purportedly expired. The computer equipment that was contained at the Iowa office was later obtained by receiver Richard Weissman and shipped to Los Angeles. Declaration of FTC counsel Maricela Segura ¶ 5
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    More Pacer
    "Now, in what is in effect a motion for reconsideration, Defendants claim that the asset freeze, as ordered, is not supported by the evidence. In their motion,Defendants do not claim that the FTC’s case is an issue of mistaken identity, that the scripts and guidelines presented by the FTC were forged, or that the documents were not used by collectors they employed. Instead, Defendants take issue with the extent of the deceptive practices taking place in their offices, which they admit did occur. In support of their motion Defendants submit 16 cookie-cutter declarations from those they claim to be their prolific collectors (see Motion at 7,
    Exhibit J) and a declaration from defendant Jason Begley to argue that the
    violations that did take place were de minimus. Motion at 14.2 What is most telling about these declarations is not what they say, but what
    they do not say. None of these declarations attaches a copy of a script or guideline compliant with the FDCPA that was widely used by Defendants’ collectors. Nor do they discuss the details of any training program provided to Defendants’ collectors concerning compliance with the FDCPA. On this point, Mr. Begley’s declaration states simply that they “reminded” managers that collectors should comply with the law. Begley ¶ 7. In addition, he admits that some collectors did not abide by the rules, that they used some bad collectors, and that they drafted and exchanged bad scripts, but that those scripts were not provided by management. Begley ¶ 38.3 Mr. Begley’s finger-pointing, however, flies in the face of the
    stubborn fact that these “bad” scripts were the only scripts found throughout Defendants’ offices and were the only scripts included in employee handbooks found in the very office that he and Mr. Lunsford shared. See dkt # 25-1 p.23, 25-3 p. 13, 25-3 p.47.4 Even assuming that defendants Begley and Lunsford did not openly condone the use of these scripts, they notably did not take any corrective measures to bring “bad” collectors into compliance with the law. Begley and Lunsford were well-aware that their collectors were engaging in violations of the
    law because they had copies of the numerous lawsuits, Attorney General
    complaints, cease and desist letters, and judgments issued against their numerous entities in their corporate office. See e.g., dkt # 25-7 pp. 2-57 (Stahl Att. 26 (Attorney General complaints)), dkt #25-7 pp. 59-79 (Stahl Att. 27 (cease and desist letters)), dkt #25-8 pp. 21-55 (Stahl Att. 29 (BBB complaints))."

    SOME PRICELESS FOOTNOTES:

    "Mr. Begley also said the following about Wayne Lunsford: that he has a
    background in debt collection, and that “based on our three-year working
    relationship and our on-going discussions, I do believe he has violated the law as the FTC alleges.” Begley ¶ 39. Whether a typo or not, the sentiment is supported by the evidence establishing Defendants’ widespread violations of the FTC Act and the FDCPA."

    One of these handbooks was found in Mr. Lunsford’s desk and was for a
    company called Irvine & Associates. See dkt 25-1 p.5 (Stahl ¶ 11), dkt #25-3 p.47 (Att. 4). This is one of the collections companies Defendants formed and hoped to sell to collectors as part of a “turn-key” collection operation. See dkt 45-1 pp. 15-16 (Begley ¶¶ 34, 35). Presumably, the handbook and scripts were part of that turn-key package that Defendants were hoping to sell.

    AND THIS:

    "Instead, they benefitted handsomely from the money earned through the scheme. See e.g., dkt#32 p. 9 (noting that Begley and Lunsford swept over $2.2 million of company funds into their trusts, and another $1 million into their individual consulting businesses)."
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    And even more Pacer
    "Moreover, neither Mr. Begley’s declaration, nor the declarations submitted
    by the 16 collectors, set forth any evidence that Defendants sent validation notices to consumers or provided verification of the debt to those consumers who disputed their debt. See 15 U.S.C. § 1692g(a). On this issue, the only evidence before the Court are consumer statements that they did not receive validation notices, and/or verification of their debt. See e.g., dkt #4 p.22-23, third Stahl dec. ¶ 16, Att. 8, ¶ 28. In  short, the overwhelming evidence establishes that the law violations alleged in the FTC’s complaint were an integral part of Defendants’ business model, that these practices were widespread, and the preliminary injunction entered by the Court was appropriate.

    Instead of responding to the evidence presented by the FTC, Defendants rely
    on the fall-back argument that there was a low ratio of consumer complaints
    relative to the calls made by collectors. Defendants argue that this ratio proves that they did not engage in widespread violations of the FTC Act and the FDCPA. Motion at 9-10. Defendants further claim that they had a credit card charge-back rate, which they claim indicates that most of their collections were in compliance with the law. Motion at 5 n.3. Even assuming arguendo, that Defendants’ numbers regarding the ratios are correct, their argument fails."
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    Pacer documents
    "While Defendants repeatedly claim that the FTC submitted only 105 consumer complaints, they are silent on the numerous letters, lawsuits, and Attorney General complaints their offices received directly."

    FOOTNOTE EXPLAINING THE 105 COMPLAINTS:

    "In support of the TRO, the FTC summarized 213 consumer complaints
    made to the FTC (see dkt #7 pp. 4-12 (Gale dec. ¶¶ 4-1), and later submitted
    numerous Better Business Bureau complaints against a number of other entities
    Defendants’ controlled. See dkt 25-1 p.13, #25-8 p. 20."

    "Finally, even if Defendants did have a one percent credit card charge-back
    rate as they assert, it does not prove they have complied with the law. Indeed, a low charge-back rate makes particular sense in light of the facts of this case. As evidenced by the scripts, consumers who agreed to pay Defendants were under the impression that they were settling a lawsuit. Indeed, Defendants provided consumers with “Offers of Settlement,” some of which stated, “Our client agrees to accept in full the sum of [$_______]. Upon receipt of certified funds and authorized signature, we will file dismissal of the action.” See dkt #25-7 at p. 52.
    Consumers who have paid to settle a lawsuit are very unlikely to charge back the settlement payment because doing so would only cause the other party to reinstate the lawsuit. Indeed, one of Defendants’ settlement agreements dated October 11, 2011, just days before they were served with the TRO, contains a note from a consumer confirming that she understood she was settling a lawsuit. The note states: “as agreed you will not continue with this pending litigation as long as commitment is fulfilled . . . [p]lease also provide pending court case # & circuit court papers are filed in [t]hank you for your assistance.” third dec. Stahl ¶ 8, Att.
    7. We assert that this is not the type of consumer who would turn around and request a charge back. It simply would make no sense in light of the transaction.  Thus, Defendants’ purportedly low charge back rate does not establish that they have complied with the law."
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    A little more pacer
    As discussed above, Defendants have not established that their law
    violations were de minimus. They simply have not, and cannot refute the
    consumer complaints and the company documents showing that it was Defendants’ pattern and practice to deceive consumers into believing that they were defendants to a fictitious lawsuit. Nevertheless, even if we assume that some of their collections were done legitimately, the potential judgment amount would still likely exceed that amount of money that has been frozen pursuant to the preliminary injunction. The Receiver has stated estimated that the amount of money Defendants have taken in during the time they have been in operation is approximately $21 million. Dkt #30 at p. 4, ¶ 1.3.B. Mr. Begley puts this number at approximately $13 million. Dkt #45-1 p. 8, Begley dec. ¶ 17. Taking Mr. Begley’s total revenue figure of $13 million as a starting point, without conceding its accuracy, even if we assume for the sake of argument that only one fourth of Defendants’ collections were conducted illegally, this would still bring the total judgment amount to approximately $3.25 million. This is in excess of the money that has been frozen, which must be preserved for redress to Defendants’ consumer victims. Moreover, as discussed above, given that the illegal scripts and collector instructions were found throughout their business premises, there is simply no basis to assume that most of their collection business has been conducted in compliance with the law.

    The asset freeze imposed by the Court was warranted because the evidence
    shows that Defendants are likely to conceal, dissipate, or otherwise divert their assets without an asset freeze. See Johnson v. Couturier, 572 F.3d 1067, 1085 (9th Cir. 2009)."
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    Begley & Lunsford
    From FTC doc filed with pacer:

    "The structure of Defendants’ complex web of multiple bank accounts and entities shows that Messrs. Begley and Lunsford sought to insulate themselves
    from liability, while allowing them the ability to control the cash flow and divert substantial amounts of money to their personal trusts."
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    Sam Lockhart
    From FTC doc filed on pacer:

    "More importantly, the FTC has presented evidence that Defendants have
    already dissipated company assets. For the period Defendants’ have been in
    operation, Messrs. Begley and Lunsford have siphoned off over $2.2 million into trusts that they own (dkt # 7 pp. 25-26 (Gale ¶ 45 (calculating over $1.2 million paid to Skyridge Legacy Trust controlled by Begley), Gale ¶ 45 (calculating over $1 million paid to WAL Legacy Trust controlled by Lunsford)), and another $1 million into their personal management and consulting companies. See docket # 7-4 pp. 38-45 (Gale Att. 28), docket #7-4 pp. 47-50, 7-5 pp. 1-3 (Gale Att. 29).  With respect to the money in Defendants’ trusts, attorney Samuel Lockhart told this Court that the money had not been diverted or dissipated and was sitting in the bank accounts held by Messrs. Lunsford’s and Begley’s trusts. Not so. Segura dec. ¶¶ 8-10. After the preliminary injunction hearing, the FTC learned
    that approximately $787,000 from the bank accounts held by the trusts was
    provided to a firm called Brylaw for a Brazilian bond investment. Segura dec. ¶ 10, Att. 3; see also Motion at 15. Demand was made to Defendants to deliver to receiver Richard Weissman documentation regarding the Brazilian bond venture.  Segura dec. ¶ 10, Att. 4. Defendants have not provided any documentation concerning the purported Brazilian bond investment, but instead told FTC counsel that this was done pursuant to a “hand shake” deal. Id. ¶ 10. Nor have Defendants executed any documents to effectively transfer control of the purported investment to Mr. Weissman. Id. at ¶ 11. Whether this investment is real or fictional, the result is that $787,000 in money obtained from the defendant business entities is no longer available for consumer redress."
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    Begley/Lunsford living expenses
    From Pacer docs:

    "Defendants Jason Begley and Wayne Lunsford argue that each of them
    should be provided $150,000 of the frozen funds because a trial has not been held on the merits and they need the money to care for their families. Motion at 2.  Defendants’ request is not supported by the facts of this case, or the applicable law. First, what the motion fails to highlight is that the FTC has already released funds for living expenses for November and December 2011, and is currently in discussion with defense counsel for a potential release of living expenses in January 2012. Segura dec. ¶¶ 12, 13 Att. 5.7 The money released to Defendants for living expenses, which was agreed to by the FTC, was based on actual reasonable and necessary living expenses substantiated by copies of bills provided by Messrs. Begley and Lunsford. Counsel for Defendants and counsel for the FTC went over the expenses line by line and determined which expenses were reasonable and necessary, and which expenses were not. Id. ¶ 12. Money was therefore released to Defendants to pay their property taxes, mortgages, insurance, reasonable car payment, health insurance, and each was provided with a food and household expense allowance, among other things. Id. ¶ 12. The process engaged in by the parties was more than fair and provided Defendants with an adequate amount of money to meet their reasonable and necessary living expenses."

    "Their mere wish to rid themselves of the FTC’s interference in their personal lives is simply an insufficient basis to release such significant amounts of money."
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    Collectors' menacing behavior
    Good for the FTC.  I think the word "menacing" is the most appropriate adjective for describing these collectors' behavior.

    "In balancing the equities, the collectors’ interest in receiving payment for calling consumers and menacing them with a fictitious lawsuit does not outweigh the consumers’ interest in full and effective relief. This is especially true where evidence has been presented to show that Defendants deceptively attempted to collect non-existent debts. Dkt #4 p. 19 (TRO Memo), see also dkt #25 p. 10 (supplemental brief in support of the preliminary injunction)."
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    Receiver's control
    "The overwhelming evidence clearly establishes that Defendants have never run a legitimate debt collection business and that they have directed collectors to engage in illegal activity for their benefit. See e.g., dkt #32 at pp. 13-14.

    However, even if we took Defendants’ version of events as true–that their business grew to fast, that they used bad collectors, but did not direct the bad behavior (see dkt 45-1 p.17 (Begley ¶ 38)–the conclusion is the same: Defendants are incapable of running a lawful debt collection business. Thus, Receiver Richard Weissman’s control is needed not only to preserve assets and the status quo for the pendency of the action, but also to ensure that no further violations of the law occur.

    Defendants first stated to the FTC that they did not want to continue in the commercial debt collection business on or around December 7, 2011, and have restated that position in their motion. See dkt #45-1 p. 26 (Begley ¶ 53). Segura ¶ 14. Prior to this point, Defendants expressed that they wanted to continue
    collecting debt on a scaled-down basis under Mr. Weissman’s supervision, but that
    this did not happen because they did not submit a business plan that the Receiver
    considered viable or FDCPA-compliant scripts. Segura ¶ 14, Att. 6. Nevertheless,
    under either scenario–the no debt collection plan, or the scaled-down plan–it is
    clear that the receivership no longer requires leases on eight separate offices
    throughout Corona and Riverside. Nor does it require the amount of office
    equipment that is currently being held in these idle offices. Though it makes sense,
    from an asset preservation standpoint, to scale-down the business operation,
    Defendants argue that the Receiver should not be provided the authority to
    liquidate any part of the business. Motion at 5. Defendants’ position is
    indefensible because forcing the receivership to hold excess unused computers and
    furniture until the case is resolved will result in a needless waste of resources that
    should be preserved for potential redress and disgorgement.
    Defendants’ argument that Mr. Weissman does not have the knowledge or
    experience to sell off aspects of the collection business is unpersuasive. First, as
    Mr. Weissman’s legal biography makes clear, he does have experience in
    “operating and liquidating debt collection agencies” in his prior role as California
    State Conservator for the Department of Consumer Affairs. Dkt #15 p.5. Second,
    on a call with counsel for the FTC and defense counsel, Mr. Weissman invited
    Messrs. Begley and Lunsford to work with him to obtain the best possible sale
    price for the portfolio of debt that had not been collected. Segura ¶ 15. Selling the
    debt portfolio made sense in light of the fact that Defendants have stated they have no intention of resuming their commercial debt collection business. However, as
    of yet, neither defendant has offered to assist Mr. Weissman in this manner. Id.
    Defendants should not be allowed to needlessly roadblock the selling of
    receivership assets, and Mr. Weissman should be allowed to terminate leases for
    offices that are no longer in use, and sell unnecessary office equipment and furniture. Mr. Weissman should also be allowed to seek a purchaser for the yet
    uncollected debt portfolio pursuant to prior due diligence regarding the debt
    portfolio and the potential purchaser.

    Defendants repeatedly state that they have been cooperative and have
    provided full information about their business practices and the locations of their
    businesses. See e.g., Motion at 11. This is not true. In fact, after the TRO was
    served Defendants did not provide information to the FTC or the Receiver about
    the five additional offices they operated, which has contributed to the loss of
    evidence and receivership assets.
    Shortly after the TRO was served on Defendants, counsel for the FTC were
    told by counsel for Defendants that the FTC had entered all of their business
    premises and that the collections businesses had been essentially shut down by the
    TRO. Segura ¶ 2. However, Defendants at the time actually operated at least five additional offices that the FTC and the Receiver did not enter–four in Riverside
    and Corona, California and one in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Segura ¶¶ 3-5. These
    additional offices housed collections businesses, which included the entities
    County Filing, Inc., Capital Filing, Inc., and Statewide Associates Group, which
    Defendants argued were separate entities wholly owned by Defendants’ former
    managers. Defendants did not provide the FTC with information about these
    additional companies, but argued that the additional companies should not be
    under order because they were not owned by Messrs. Begley and Lunsford. Cf.
    Segura ¶ 3, Att. 1.

    However, we now know from Mr. Begley’s declaration that although it was
    Defendants’ plan to sell these additional entities to their managers as part of a turnkey
    collection business, no formal agreements were in place, and the plan did not
    materialize because of the TRO. Dkt 45-1 pp.16-17. The import of this statement
    is that the additional companies were owned and operated by Defendants at the
    time the TRO was served. Thus, pursuant to the TRO, Defendants were required to provide the FTC with access to the offices for these companies, and were required
    to provide the Receiver with full information about the companies. See dkt #5 p.
    17 (TRO Section IX., p. 22 (TRO Secton XII), dkt #5 p. 23 (TRO Section XII.F).
    Defendants did not comply with these provisions of the TRO. Instead, Defendants
    continued to argue that these entities were wholly separate from Defendants’
    business up until the preliminary injunction was entered. This forced the FTC and
    the Receiver to make the showing through substantial evidence and analysis that
    the additional entities were in fact owned and operated by Messrs. Begley and
    Lunsford. See e.g., dkt ## 25 pp.13-14, #30 pp.10-12.

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