Complaint

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Debra M. Persiano
Country: United States
I got a call today at home from a man stating he was a process server for Collin County DA's Office and he is with the Sheriff's office and needed to come serve a warrant on me.  I was shocked and asked why?  He stated do you live ....are you still at this address are you now at this address and I stated who are you?  He again, stated he was from the county going to serve court papers on me today. He gave me a toll free number for what he stated was the county's office which is 1 866.872.6116 gave me a case no. which he called a Cause No. 008307-TX. I called the number was transferred to a Mr. Fisher's office who stated that law suite in the amount of $6,214.24 was filed in Collin Co., Tx and that warrant was out for me.  He then after back and forth said let me get more information from my secretary and state this was for an outstanding debt in from Capital One a credit card that I obtained several years back and had disputes over interest charges etc.  He stated that if I did not want to go to court or jail that I could pay $1,951.00 in full by end of business today and this matter could be cleared up.  I explained that I recently lost my job etc.  Anyway, he stated that I needed to call him back by EOB today or they will serve the papers.  Ok, so that was a heads up for me.  I called the DA's office nothing is filed on me as of today, after searching PMG it is clear that they do not practice best practices for collections and have been in trouble for this before back in 2004.  I need someone to give me advise. I want to pay off my debt, I don't want this type of collections to continue this upset me, made my blood pressure raise, this type of collections are not the right thing to do.  Had they called and ask to make arrangements or give me an opportunity to clear the matter, rather then threaten me by taken legal action, or harassment stating they are sending a sheriff over today.  This is wrong, bad business, and should not continue this company is bad news.

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    Beware of "process server" calls
    Calls from "process servers" calling to "serve papers" are often shady or fraudulent debt collectors collecting on equally shady or fraudulent "debts", using the implied threats of a "lawsuit" to evade their legal obligation to produce proof (validation) of alleged debts if consumers dispute them.

    Receiving such calls providing some callback number "to resolve the matter before it goes to court" are a further indication of illegal deceptive collection, as process servers have no interest in "resolving" a lawsuit.  They are just hired to serve papers on already filed lawsuits, and sign an affidavit certifying that they did so.

    Receiving a collection call when you know you don't have any delinquent debts is an indicator of potential fraudulent collection.

    Using an old or maiden name is a further suspicious indicator, as it suggests the debt collector "located" you via skip-tracing, and such identification is no more reliable than the competence and honesty of the debt collector, which you already have reason to suspect.

    As for not being able to give you any information, that is how this "con" is played.  The whole goal is to get you to pay, due to this implied yet unproven threat, and allowing you to dispute or forcing them to validate is what they are trying to avoid.  The less information you have, the better, as information might only make you more sure that the alleged debt isn't owed by you, and undermine their various deceptions.

    You have four separate indicators of potential fraud:
    1)  "process server calls"
    2)  use of your maiden name
    3)  you don't owe anything
    4)  they can't give you any information

    Additional indicators, noted for their absence:

    5)  You haven't receiveg an FDCPA required "g" letter, notifying you of the alleged debt and your right to dispute it, yet they clearly know how to contact you.

    6)  Check your local courthouse, if you want, to verify there is no lawsuit filed against either your current or maiden name.

    Note how rapidly these scams produce multiple indicators of fraud, by their deviations from normal expected legal debt collection practice, even in just one call.

    You can contact FTC, your state Attorney General, or a consumer attorney.
    You can find an attorney in your state through www.naca.net

    What names and phone numbers are they using?
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    tj
    7)  Note the evidence of "intelligent design".  These schemes are not "accidental", but they are crafted to appear so until you see they are all doing the same thing.  each element of deception or deviation from normal is designed to stear you toward their goal of getting your money, while leaving an excuse ("plausible deniability") if they get caught.
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    what's new?
    | 5 replies
    What is happening with are Corona friends? Does anyone know the latest on Wayne or Bagel boy?
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      Latest update replies to what's new?
      | 4 replies
      I downloaded a half dozen or more documents from Pacer today that were filed last week; lots and lots of astounding information.  Will try to find time later to elaborate.

      I strongly urge anyone interested in following this case to sign up for a Pacer account.  It really isn't all that expensive.

      It does appear that  the court has ordered that all debt collection and repayment agreements by supposed debtors (read:  victims)  will cease and/or be cancelled in the immediate future.

      Interesting info regarding Lockhart, Markham, Larry Stephens (of Brylaw) and various ongoing shenanigans and re: the $750,000 Brazilian bonds purchase.

      Justice for victims may be near at hand.....
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        FYI - case # for Pacer replies to Latest update
        If you're looking on pacer, here's the case number you need to search for:

        5:11-cv-01623
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        appreciate information replies to Latest update
        I don't have a pacer account so I am patiently waiting for you to post some of the information,
        I am very interested in reading any documents that you are able to post. Thanks for all your info!
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        seaninoc replies to Latest update
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        Can you please point me to the -  "Interesting info regarding Lockhart, Markham, Larry Stephens (of Brylaw) and various ongoing shenanigans and re: the $750,000 Brazilian bonds purchase."?

        I may have some insight on this. Thank you.
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          Bonds? replies to seaninoc
          Was the alleged "$750,000 Brazilian bonds purchase" real, or just an excuse to pass money off to some agent out of the country?

          Has the court appointed receiver asked that the "bonds" be put under court control?
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    FDCPA
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    Feds want to really score they should look into the Asian Network 30 plus agency's where Lundsford began.   Thi Hann , Stewart Phillips, Jim Phelps located from OC all the wat to San Diego County and 3 out of state offices Multi Billion Dollar operation in just 4 or so years I heard. All family ran we could get the country out of debt with there $$$$. Moving there agency's out of Corona a few in Elsinore ran by a total Coke head named Saudi.  Moved ffrom Corona he also moved one to Ontario.  They have 10 or more in OC 5 or 6 in San Diego County and so on. Change there names every 3 months
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      The Corona Scam.. replies to FDCPA
      came on the scene in full form, from the start.  I assumed they had gotten experience somewhere else, since the division under numerous names shows up when they first open, and they were old enough to have had a decade somewhere else.

      Bud Hibbs referred to Shekinah, with connections to "D.C. Brown" in Corona, so clearly the "culture" was already fully developed.
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      brad replies to FDCPA
      Wow...you need to get some education buddy. You're grammar sucks ass.
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    falling like dominos
    | 8 replies
    Class Action Anyone?
    Murphey v. Asset & Capital Management Company: Misclassification claim on behalf of debt collectors for failure to pay overtime.

    On July 14, 2011, this employment lawsuit was filed in the Superior Court of California, County of San Diego, North County Division. According to the complaint, an integrated enterprise of debt collection companies in Southern California operating under the direction and control of Jim Phelps, Thai Han and Stewart Phillips intentionally misclassified debt collectors as independent contractors in order to avoid paying them overtime compensation. These debt collectors have the job titles of “dialer” and “collector”. The enterprise controlled the kind of work performed by the debt collectors and also how the work was to be performed. The enterprise also provided all supplies, tools and office space to debt collectors. The debt collectors were supervised closely by the enterprise and could be terminated at will. As a result, the debt collectors claim that they do not meet the test of independent contractor under California law and are entitled to overtime for all the hours they worked in excess of eight in a workday and forty in a workweek.

    If you believe you worked as a debt collector for any company that may have been part of this integrated enterprise of debt collection services, your information may be critical to the prosecution of this case. Please contact us now. 858-292-0792
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      Dominos.....class action... replies to falling like dominos
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      Oh yes.....please do......all you former and current employees of this "enterprise" call this "fine" law firm right away and join yourselves to this class action.  That way we (the victims) will have access to a comprehensive list and be able to identify all the THUGS who worked there and illegally menaced thousands of innocent consumers.

      Seriously?  Think you were cheated out of "overtime" for your illegal activity.  Hahahahahahahahah!!!

      If you think any judge is going to be sympathetic once he/she learns what you were doing in the course of your "work" for this "integrated enterprise of debt collection companies".....you're seriously deluded.  A more accurate characterization of what these THUGS do is robbery.....over the phone.

      What goes around comes around.....and it's certainly coming around.......
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        IRS and EDD get their share, too. replies to Dominos.....class action...
        The more money clawed back from the owners, the better.  Who cares if the "independent contracters"/ex-employees burn it up sitting around watching TV?

        If run legally, these would be marginal businesses.

        Think about it..

        Most businesses only have profit margins of maybe 5% to 7%, after all expenses needed to pay employees and keep the doors open.

        Only thing that keeps them going is fraud and "efficient" collection through extortion, while shovelling away the money somewhere else.to evade judgements.

        Require validation, take away extortion of unowed payments, pay unemployment and payroll taxes, and after a couple lawsuits, these scams are in the red, ready to shut their doors.  

        They can't be run profitably if run legally, so the "profits" that keep them going.are a direct result of their illegality.  The owners know this, which is why they break them up into a lot of locations to keep going.
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      The attorneys.. replies to falling like dominos
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      http://www.backstromandheinrichs.com/Case-Updates.shtml
      Murphey v. Asset & Capital Management Company: Misclassification claim on behalf of debt collectors for failure to pay overtime.
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        Misclassication claim Class Action replies to The attorneys..
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        Joel Murphey, Christine Avela and Pam Cummins Mathews et al vs. Thai Han et al....

        As I said before....come on current/ex-employees.....sign on as a member of this class action along with Joel & Christine and (the respectible) Pam.....so we have a neat, tidy and comprehensive list of who you all are so we, the victims, know where we can find ya........

        Whoo hooo!!!
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          Don't see recent complaints against CMAG.
          Are they shut down?

          Is this verification that CMAG was one of Thai Han's operations?
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          Has Pam been sued? replies to Misclassication claim Class Action
          If Pam was a manager of CMAG, would she have personal liability for the misclassification?
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          HAHAHAHHA I will be sure to call first thing and be the first on the list so all debtors and agencies and government agencies know me....... Ya I'm sure companies will want to hire me too. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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        SPIF replies to The attorneys..
        This means our names will be on PUBLIC record and open to everyone..... HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Is it smart for me to do that? HAHAHAHAHAHA

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