Harassment
Complaint
Debra M. Persiano
Country: United States
I got a call today at home from a man stating he was a process server for Collin County DA's Office and he is with the Sheriff's office and needed to come serve a warrant on me. I was shocked and asked why? He stated do you live ....are you still at this address are you now at this address and I stated who are you? He again, stated he was from the county going to serve court papers on me today. He gave me a toll free number for what he stated was the county's office which is 1 866.872.6116 gave me a case no. which he called a Cause No. 008307-TX. I called the number was transferred to a Mr. Fisher's office who stated that law suite in the amount of $6,214.24 was filed in Collin Co., Tx and that warrant was out for me. He then after back and forth said let me get more information from my secretary and state this was for an outstanding debt in from Capital One a credit card that I obtained several years back and had disputes over interest charges etc. He stated that if I did not want to go to court or jail that I could pay $1,951.00 in full by end of business today and this matter could be cleared up. I explained that I recently lost my job etc. Anyway, he stated that I needed to call him back by EOB today or they will serve the papers. Ok, so that was a heads up for me. I called the DA's office nothing is filed on me as of today, after searching PMG it is clear that they do not practice best practices for collections and have been in trouble for this before back in 2004. I need someone to give me advise. I want to pay off my debt, I don't want this type of collections to continue this upset me, made my blood pressure raise, this type of collections are not the right thing to do. Had they called and ask to make arrangements or give me an opportunity to clear the matter, rather then threaten me by taken legal action, or harassment stating they are sending a sheriff over today. This is wrong, bad business, and should not continue this company is bad news.
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When I kept getting calls from CMAG (under a new name) I contacted a lawyer. I had already started connecting the dots with Pamela Mathews, found the registered agent out of Nevada and kind of left it alone after I found out that I'd have to start sending a bunch of certified letters to their last known addresses. After getting a message left on my phone by Green Tree Financial (800-691-8323) my interest was renewed. A quick Google search will show that they're kind of a quiet bunch. Much smaller and selective. They are definitely trying to fly under the radar.
Their M.O. Is exactly the same – call the relatives, work phone number and neighbors of the alleged debtors to create panic. They fish for information, but in a much 'nicer' way (I can't believe I just said that) and they change their name, and then start all over again. They appear to have been in operation since at least December of 2011, but the same number that they are calling from has complaints listed back as far as 2008. I believe that the person being described as Ms. Tony also goes by the name of Ms. Way/William(s?). She speaks quickly and tries to be aggressive. Definitely not her first trip around the block. If this is the case, there may be no more than 4 or 5 working there.
I believe they chose the name Green Tree Financial with great care. Greentree Servicing, a subsidiary of Green Tree Financial (real company) is apparently a mortgage servicer that loves to screw it's customers, so there are already plenty of complaints floating around the net. Besides having a different number and a slightly different name, all complaints seem to point toward phone harassment and collection calls. Most of this is speculation, but hopefully it helps someone else out.
You are calling people debtors,But we are to believe that you aren't a bill collector?
You are a relative of the "debtor" but somehow you gathered all this information?
Come on Pam stop it already.....let this all go you are ONLY hurting yourself, And you do not do a very good job of masking your personal vendettas while doing so.
Anyways, thanks for the links, TJ. The very last link that you posted points back to what I think is the 'real' Green Tree Financial I mentioned before. I think that they are a mortgage servicer of some kind. The Green Tree Financial that called for my relative didn't specify what type of alleged debt they were trying to collect (but really, it wasn't hard to read between the lines of the message left by the 'claims coordinator'), but when I saw all of the other comments, alarm bells started to go off. Also, were you able to connect the 800-691-8323 number to the BBB report? That's where I'm having a problem. Since I have no idea what state that the call originated from, I can't connect this outfit to any one specific Green Tree Financial.
That gap suggests they are unconnected, and maybe that the Oceanside company may no longer be in business.
Although there is sometimes cross-over between "debt negotiation" and "debt collection" companies, BBB report names all appear to be aimed at debt negotiation.
The other Greentree in CA appears to be a financial advisor, with some history as a financial advisor associated with other businesses. Unlikely to be related.
Name may be purely a red herring. If they take payment by credit card, they would have to have a bank account and be set up to process cc payments, but maybe that is under some other name.
I did check Wyoming LLC registrations, since the Thai Han operations layered their CA LLCs under Wyoming LLCs, but didn't find anything there under Greentree that looked remotely related.
Let's see how it checks out. https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-691-8323
First complaint, Oct. 2008.
Predates Bagley and Lundsford by almost a year.
"RTE Federal Credit " phishing scam to random person who was NOT a credit union customer.
Phishing complaints stop in Oct. 2008, Number was probably reassigned.
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Next complaints is Dec, 2011. .
"GFS"
"Green Tree Financial"
"Granger Financial Services"
"Miss Tony"
" a complaint against my SS# for fraudlent activity. What a joke It is a scam"
"They called me at work today. I spoke to a Ms Tony from Greentree Financial. They said that I owed $$$ for a payday loan (Companies name was CASH YES).
I explained to her that I paid it back in 2009."
"about an affidavit of my SS#. "
"The person called and stated that an law suit is being brought against your social security number "
"stated this was a check collection and when i asked him to send my attorney the proof he got irrate and started asking me my attorneys name and location. Then he was trying to make me call my exhusband and ask for the money and then said he would call him. He never would agree to email or mail the proof. and was asking for over $800 dollars. I refused and he got very ill with me and threatened me."
"RME ??"
"Because I paid this payday loan over two years ago and have the copy of the paid receipt in my office."
"Did some deeper checking because I can. Discovered it is a debt collection agency picking up on the bottom-feed/ old debt. They are not using the name or location for the alleged debt to contact you. But, they are using the phone numbers that were put on original loan applications. Discovered this because one of my old employee's relative applied for multiple Quick Cash Loans and defaulted, but used by office number as the point of contact."
"Ive explained its being paid through another co. that bought the loan but he will not listen."
Calling a lot of people who owe nothing.
Many calls to employer numbers.
Same old Corona-style scripts, threats, evade validation, and have "reason" to get money regardless of whether it's owed.
Very few aliases. Most complaints refer to "Ms. Tony".
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Oce ... l/81646925.aspx
Charles Ball
BBB report, rated "F"
http://www.bbb.org/san-diego/business-reviews ... de-ca-171989269
"...
Greentree Financial, ADA Safehouse
Phone: (866) 843-4669
2101 El Camino Real #101,
Oceanside, CA 92054
loan modification...
..."
Greentree Financial Services, LLC, Yorba Linda CA
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Yor ... c/47026152.aspx
Tami Mehlbrandt
Tami Mehlbrandt, Chatterton & Associates
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tami-mehlbrandt/8/639/45b
Apparently different "Greentree", goes back years, appears to be based in Tempe AZ.
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-480-333-6000
None of these appear related.
"rude and had incorrect information on me. Threatened to serve me papers at my job for a payday loan I never heard of."
"Progressive Fraud Hotline"
"Samantha Cross"
"progressive"
"Paige Taylor"
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-240-0972
"USC"
""Page Taylor" from the county processors office"
"Andrew Middlebrooks"
"Paige Taylor"
"Beth Paige"
"contacted my deceased ex husbands mother and sister in law. It is ridiculous. They say it was a bad check I wrote in Feb of 2008 almost 4 years ago for a pay day loan....last time I checked you didn't write checks for payday loans????!!!! Never happened"
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-434-6124
"USC"
"Prudential Litigation"
"case" number he gave me with the San Diego Sup court and nothing came up with my name"
"for some reason they called my boyfriends moms cell"
"Henry Snipes"
"Holly Chambers"
"Steve Anderson"
"John Adams"
"larry fuller"
Looks like "Progressive" and "Prudential" are aliases for "USC".
Why would these thugs ever stop. Wouldn't it just be easier for them to just change their business name and phone number and keep the charade going. The laws how they stand right now are not protecting the public and there needs to be a change.
Also you may want to proof read what you are writing here some of it really does not make sense.
Fact is, it's still going on, and California is starting to stink like New York.
California needs to re-regulate this garbage industry, with licensing and bonding requirements to re-establish accountability. Instead, we have the legislature apparently bought off by the payday loan industry, one of the feeder groups for this scum.
I fail to see how Pam could have run things so compliant, when everyone she trained who left shows up running the same illegal racket.
Fraud is taught and learned.
I found it amusing that you suggest a counter suit against Ms Mey. Remember you idiots only know how to threaten lawsuits but actually have no idea how to go about filing one.
Nice to hear they lost their merchant accounts, too.
Maybe they can ask people to go to Walmart and get a prepaid debit card.
Of if you feel comfortable, you can call them: Marty Sheehan at 304-232-1064 or Pat Cassidy at 304-232-8100.
I have personally sued Pamela Mathews along with Thai, Jim and Stewart. If Pam has information that suggests she is not liable, then I would encourage her to reach out to my attorneys.
Most of the other managers and key personnel that I sued have been served - and I can always amend the lawsuit to add more key players as they become known to us.
I appreciate those of you who have already come forward but time is running out for the rest of you.
It is, and you are attempting to capitalizing like the blood sucker that you are.
Are you employed or do you just sit around hoping that the phone will ring and you can make a buck.
Do you cruise parking lots hoping someone will back up and hit you so you can file another claim?
Sometimes you crusaders creep me out.
Don't like the rules when they go to court, yet you threatened it all the time.
The "game" was ALWAYS about the money. The "debt" was just a prop, to keep the callers thinking they were honest, and hold off the cops when they visited. Since that is all you were buying, real cheap and real old was as good as anything else, no docs needed.
If you could play the game without "debt", you would. In fact, you did.
"Spiff money" is what made the "best script ever", and it wasn't even owed.
I doubt you'll catch Team Diana Mey on a "party of interest" problem. Abuse from debt collectors is a systemic problem, hence the multiple respondents.
} "... your trying to strong arm people into giving you information. There must be some type of law against that."
When your guys do it the "type of law" is the FDCPA. When someone legally "strong-arms" a violative debt collector, they call foul on a "frivolous action". There should be a law against hypocrisy.
} "You sued a huge corporation that more then likely makes $10 million a month and you can not get your money"
Winning a jackpot is not the point. The defendants are forever damaged even if they never pay up. Her ten mil award shames the FTC almost as much, which should start their damage awards against collection rogues at three times as much.
} "lawsuit. That is what you do for a living if I heard right "
Ms. Mey's background was never a secret.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/diana-mey/9/978/3a9
If the job of "private attorney general" blooms into a full time position, that should say something about how much effort consumer abusers pour into defending their fraudulent business models. If they only worked half so much at behaving honestly there would be no Diana Meys throwing spikes in their path.
you are either Pam or one of her pathetic paid for friends, or a straight junkie!!
The lies in this story made me throw up!! Pam you are a fat lazy non working pig! NO work ethic.....The give away is "They took wayne swanson and anothony saude out of her office"??...as if she/you owned them like slaves or something!! They do not belong to you. They got tired of working for a lazy slob that did not work and collected on others work !
They knew what was going on, and wanted to make money for themselves,
They did not want to work and your lazy [***] collect on their work!!
So wayne and anothony were her belongings or what.
They wanted to leave it was you pam.!!!!
What do you think they were forced to start their own office at gun point!!!
Your bad work ethic and constant complaining and mind games !!
ohh jim thai steward such slave drivers!! lol Your whole office was complaining about you.
Your office had no drive cause you didn't like to work, just wanted to get paid go shopping, bring people on shopping sprees, complain some more about how bad your bosses were! Poor Pam !! Always a victim!! You like to buy your friends pam, So you will never make enough money in your lifetime
Your personality is the worst.
Not to mention your drug habit is even bigger!!! clean your self up!!!!
you are a big mess and everyone sees it but you!
Anything that was ever promised was always followed through, for me anyways and i am a female that has not problems with anything but watching this office gossip game, Pam dragged us all through, I was not even in her offices yet, hearing her poor me, slave driver stories. Mean while sporting a 15,000 $$ watch from them as a present.
If you are so unhappy with them, I will be happy to take that off your grubby greedy hands pam!
i imagine you dont even have it anymore, Trading it for a baggie of meth/speed
Pam it is so sad that you continue to slander them, Pam always helps out cause she has no real friends!
Pam always helps out cause she like to buy people and make them feel like they owe her favors!
Recognize the pattern druggies do this kind of mind game! Such a silly game!! grow up!