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Dr Manohar Shetty
Country: United Kingdom
I wish I have posted my experience earlier so that I could have  protected

some  innocent people in this trap.

Let me explain what happened to me.(  membership.(RIHC1/040809/5566-165points)

I  spent  three and half lakhs rupees, wasted  so much of my precious time over last four years and  did not even have a single day of holiday theirs  or alliance resort (GAP Resort) over these three years.

Since I am mailing to few other people let me explain you how it all started.

I was holidaying in Club Mahindra Goa, with my & my brother-in- laws family in August 2009.
While I am there one of my friend called me from UK (Dr Rai) and during the conversation he asked me that he and his friend family are coming to Goa in December that year and asked me whether I can book them a resort while I am there. I asked at Club Mahindra but they said they only offer to Club Mahindra Members.

Then I met this sales man in Private Beach of Club Mahindra (I feel they should not have allowed these thugs to enter their private beach) offering visit to Haathi mahal and offering free gift. I was not at interested in gifts but I thought I can book resort to my friend if it looks okay.

Then I met another sales man (I can’t remember the name now-Arif/Asif) in Club Mhahindra.This guy insisted me that I should take whole family including kids there and checked I have got credit card. Also said it won’t take more than an hour. So I and my Brother-in –laws family visited Haathi Mahal on 4th August 2009

When I went Haathi Mahal they checked I have a valid credit Card

We were through the session of explanations about Karma Royal Resorts by Neelu Menom which lasted nearly one and half to two hour though in beginning only telling her intention of my visit. (To book a paid resort to my Friend). Then we were joined by Jessica Gracias. They both insisted that I should take membership which is available at discounted rate only today and sign the membership for three lacks.

Next one hour and half hour is most horrible time of Holiday in Goa.

I must have told atleast 25times I am not interested in Membership.
Ever time when I say no they came up how best holiday I can have in Next 25 years across the world for Pea nuts.
Frequently I was stopped abruptly during conversation.
I said I don’t want any free gifts, let me go-For that Jessica Gracias said I wasted three hours of their time.
They made me looks small in front of children. (As if I am refusing to buy 1 rupee ice cream for them)

They Insulted My Profession (You are such a big Doctor in United Kingdom cant you afford Pea nuts for happiness of your family)

Least to say their tactics are disgusting...

Finally under the pressure I agreed to take the membership.

Initially they said I have to pay Rs 35,000 and rest of 3 lakhs over five Years. Since I did not proof of address in India they forced me to pay all Rs 323,112.00  which I did with my Credit Card and signed the membership.(RIHC1/040809/5566-165points)

All I got was Vouchers of a week holidays for two families.


Free Holiday Vouchers

I try to use these vouchers to book holiday for my friends (Dr Rai & Peter Fox) who were visiting India in December 2009. They wanted only four day holidays in Goa as rest of the tour was fixed. But they refused give holidays any of your resort in Goa on these specific dates. My friends refused your dates of offer, vouchers went waste and I wasted so much time...
I sent E mail asking whether I can use it in future; I did not get any reply.

Holidays I enjoyed next three Years…

Like a fool I try to enjoy the forced relationship. I paid next two year of membership.(Rs 15,000 each year).
But when I tried to book holiday, response I got was

The Resort you have asked not affiliated us any more…
That Resort is not available in that period
But we have other resort, at other place, at other date (when children having school) with an extra cost…
And I wasted so much of time…

Only holiday booked was, last year two days of holiday was booked at royal palms for my friend (Dr Praksh Raviraj). That also he wanted at Hathi Mahal which was refused. (Though it was available from other Holiday web sites) and feedback I got from him is that is a filthy place.
After trying hard to book holiday this year decided not to pay any more for membership.


It is shame that company like this still exit, even after so much evidence available on line that how big a scammer, cheater and liars are…

The company says do charity for children, But bl… use children for cunning scam…

If it had happened in western countries, company like this would have closed long before and probably few people behind the bars as well.

That wasn’t first time I visited Goa (But will probably the last time)
I gave All India Postgraduate medical entrance examinations in Goa in 1990. I came with few friends stayed few days afterwards. We thoroughly enjoyed our stay at Goa. The hotel we stayed wasn’t posh but people were honest.
That trip is still in my memory.

I spent first 30 years in India and I love my country
But I haven’t come across this high level professional cunning people before.

It not the first time somebody approached me for holiday membership. When I was in club Mahindra their sale man called and explained me about their membership. He did not check weather I have got credit card or not, he did not ask my profession, did not make me look small in front women and children and more importantly at end of meeting I told him I will look in to it and comeback if I am interested. He respected that.

At any time if I want holiday membership I will take from Club Mahindra.

Unfortunately I don’t have time to put case against them..
But I have got stronger weapon…
I will use next of 21 years of membership year in Social net work site, forms, blog… explaining what happened to me in Goa. & Karma Royal Resorts

It has got the Power. It has brought down Dictators in Egypt, Libya and in many part of the world…



Dr Manohar Shetty
MBBS, MS Gen Surgery (Bombay), MNAMS Gen Surgery (New Delhi)
FRCEd (Edinburgh), FRCS Glasgow.
Specialist Endoscopic Surgeon.
Pontefract &Pinderfield Hospital.
Mid Yorkshire NHS Trust.
Wakefield
United Kingdom.

Comments

  • +2
    webchecker
    | 2 replies
    This posting is actually the copy of an email/letter that Dr. Manohar Shetty sent to his membership service department in 2012. Subsequent to this his issues were discussed at the highest level and a resolution was offered.

    However, since this time he has not responded to the Company  by telephone (despite having messages left on his answerphone).  HIs registered home address with the Company is in Mumbai - However we understand that he is living in the UK so maybe calls are not so cheap or easy to make to India for him.

    We also sent him an email at the time with a proposed resolution. However, he has not sent any communication to the Company by telephone, email or letter since 24th June 2012.

    We therefore find it very strange that he would post this copy of an email he sent the Company so long ago!

    However, providing he does communicate directly with the Company they can proceed to find a resolution for his issues. Without communication however, nothing is possible.

    webchecker@royalperspective.com
    • +1
      nitin tyagi replies to webchecker
      they are completely fraud and cheater
    • 0
      Tony H replies to webchecker
      http://www.smh.com.au/business/key-leaders/to ... 0907-1jx81.html hi you should check out the founder boating in the Sydney Morning Herald - maybe you guys should contact the newspaper and give them the real story of your experiences - they tried to fleece me but refused to pay a deposit. The free holiday I won is a fraud - the webpage is not available!
  • 0
    margaretta - indonesia
    Dr. Shetty,

    so did you finally still have to pay each year of your membership or can you cancel it?
  • -1
    Diwaker
    | 2 replies
    1. On repeated request by Karma group marketing person I along with my family went to Haathi Mahal for attending an hour presentation on 17 Aug 2014.

    2. Though it was represented that the presentation will last for an hour, there were spill over of 45 minutes. ( It was lunch time and I had a kid of 4 years)

    3. The membership price offered to us was 3 lacs and odd. Which is out of the world since Club Mahindra-2 lacs, Magic holiday 1.3 lacs

    4. We were assured by sale person that we will get free voucher after attending presentation.

    5. We got voucher but it has a condition of paying 5000/- plus ST and other charges.

    Clearly Karma group has misrepresented us.

    By this I firmly believe on Mr. Manohar Shetty's word.

    Diwaker Sudesh Bansal [M.com, ACA, CIA, CCA]
    Chartered Accountant & Certified Internal Auditor
    Cell Phone number: +917506185225
    • 0
      Latha replies to Diwaker
      | 1 reply
      I have just joined the karma group last week and really unhappy with their service. They haven't attended to my repeated  calls   and messages. I have a strong sense of feeling that they are scammers as told by others. I really upset on loosing my hard earned money.
      • 0
        Vinnu sidhana replies to Latha
        Dear I had also purchased their membership two months back.  Please let me know at what price did you purchase this memebership
  • -1
    patricia
    its so bull [***] company, they cheeting people..i had pay but didnt got back anything...
  • 0
    dr sanjay kapil
    I recently stayed at jaipur at ratna haveli no problem I face but promotional programme compulsory for 90 min they wasted my precious three hour 10am to1pm they want to become a member on spot even don't allows discussion with my wife they start cost 8.15 lakh a come ro down 2lakh asking 54000/ on spot when I refused they show their real face of rudness & said that you r a doctor can't afford just 2 lakh  but I completed my stay without any problems after next day I asked a permanent member amazingly he said just 1.5lakh in 2012 for25 years & they asking me 2 lakh just 15 yr
  • 0
    Truthseeker
    So they drop price still to pay more? How many points?
  • 0
    Swedes
    We were at a promotion in Bali January 2015. It took 4 hours and the price for membership went from 200000 SKR to 70000 SKR during the presentation. Really something wrong, you had to decide directly, no time to think or look things up. Happy we didn't by it.
  • 0
    Wombats
    | 1 reply
    We were at the same promotion in Bali as swedes in feb 2015. Very high pressure sales job however we enjoyed  the day, not having been to jimbaran before. we had no intention of signing anything and they appear as though they will honour the 7 free hotel nights. They were pleasant with our refusal to sign. On the whole an interesting experience. Recommend it to anyone with half a day to kill in bali.
    • 0
      ghada replies to Wombats
      we  did the same   and enjoyed half a day of time killing at jimbaran  in july 2016,,,,we took 2 t shirts   and a voucher that ended in the rubbish bin,,,,,,strange though   that we met the people who pushed us into this promotion on the next day  and they told us that they received usd100   for every tourist they bring into this promotion
  • 0
    Susie22
    | 6 replies
    We also stupidly signed up to this company and paid 1700 us deposit! We have tried to got our money back but with no luck. Interestingly I tried to find information on the Internet about the Karma Royal when I was in Bali but nothing came up it was almost as if the information was barred. I am concerned that we gave our passport details and wonder if we might be arrested if we tried to return to Bali for breach of contract as I not giving them anymore of our money!!! Has anyone had any luck complaining  to the Australian Securities Commission!!
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      Pauly replies to Susie22
      | 5 replies
      I'm going through this now!! We signed and paid some monies.. crown finance agreement to pay the rest.. now I feel like I've been ripped off! I am searching for a intenational contract lawyer to see what my options are
      • 0
        Coco replies to Pauly
        | 4 replies
        Have you guys had Any luck terminating the contract or receiving your deposit back? We signed up less than 24 hours ago and have just found site after site of people who have also been scammed . Any help would be appreciated...we did read in one article about a 5 day cooling off period under Singapore consumer law act which may be useful?! Thx and best of luck... Absolutely horrified that I fell for this and have put down 5k deposit already! I certainly won't be making any further payments!
        • 0
          Anu replies to Coco
          | 2 replies
          Hi Coco,

          We are also in the same situation now. Is there any update on cancelling the contract? Please tell us how to proceed with cancellation.
          Thanks,
          Anu
          • 0
            prilla replies to Anu
            may i ask did you cancel the contract? because my parents are in the same situation. I don't want them to spend money to some scammers
          • 0
            paul replies to Anu
            1have paid out nearly 30000.00 dollars and still have not been on any free  trips and now when i try to get contact am getting no responce  is their an australian number i can ring to get help
        • 0
          Tam replies to Coco
          Hi
          Have you had any luck getting out of your contract
          What happens if you default and refuse to pay

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