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Steve and Janet Applebaum
Country: United States
We just found out that Enterprise is suing us for alleged damage to a car that we rented in 2004 and that appears was sideswiped after we parked it after hours, at their office. They did not contact us until 6 weeks later, and then said that the person who logged in the car no longer worked for them. We wrote a letter at the time denying the claim, and have heard nothing for several years until being served with a lawsuit.

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    tj
    It is now 2009.  2004 was 4 or more years ago.

    When was the lawsuit actually filed, and what is the SOL for what is presumably a "written contract" in the state in which you signed for the car?  If they filed suit too late, you might be able to raise SOL as an affirmative defense (one you have to specifically claim for the court to consider it).  If they are passed SOL, they may be out of luck.

    Did you have auto insurance at the time, or did you pay for and have their so-called "collision waiver" insurance?  Also, some credit cards might provide coverage when used for paying for a car rental.  If you have insurance coverage, they may have a duty to defend you.

    Have you actually been served, or are you dealing with a collection agency who claims you have been sued or are about to be sued?  Sometimes collection agencies use deception and threats to attempt to panic consumers into paying, particularly when they have a weak claim.

    "They did not contact us until 6 weeks later, and then said that the person who logged in the car no longer worked for them. "

    How convenient.  Why should that be your concern?  And why would it take 6 weeks to realize they had a damaged car that supposedly was your fault?

    Claiming an employee who would have been able to testify to some event or condition that might undermine their claim "no longer worked for them" is a common tactic of companies running scams to make false claims or charges.  Maybe the car was damaged AFTER they logged it in, or even by one of their employees, but they want to defraud you or your insurer.  

    A number of the lesser ranked rental agencies have a history of such complaints, often tied to particular rental locations and probably due to local managers padding their income.  Check with the BBB in the city where you rented from, and see if there are other similar complaints.
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    tj
    If in fact the car was sideswiped while parked, then the damage was done by another party.  Unless the other driver involved in the collision contacted the rental company, then the damage was done as the result of a hit-and-run accident, either a misdemeanor or felony depending on the amount of damage.

    Furthermore, owners of cars damaged in accidents over certain dollar amounts are generally required by state motor vehicle laws to report such accidents, as part of ensuring that state liability insurance requirements are being met.  In most cases, such damage will be over the state thresholds for reporting, even if minor bodywork and painting are all that is done.

    If the damage really occurred as claimed, then the rental agency should have the invoices establishing the repairs performed, their cost, and when they were done.  If it was a hit-and-run, then they should have notified police of the crime.  If it was over state reporting thresholds, they should have notified the department of motor vehicles of the accident.  State law may require that these reports be made witin a certain number of days of the accident.

    If this "accident" really occurred while the car was parked where you left it BEFORE they logged it in, then they should be able to provide repair invoices, a police report, and a motor vehicle department report made at the time to substantiate the damage they claim they want to charge you for.  

    The timing of these documents, verifiable from neutral parties such as police and motor vehicle department, should be in accordance with state law, and consistent with the alleged time of the alleged damage.  This is exactly what your insurance company might request if it was considering paying off on an alleged claim.

    If they did NOT file the legally required notifications, reporting the damage and the hit-and-run, then why not?  Maybe the damage did NOT occur as they are now claiming, before logged in, but actually occurred later under the control of their employees, perhaps even this former employee that 6 weeks later was no longer with them.  Maybe it occurred while one of their employees was driving the car you rented, or driving another of their rental cars.  

    Maybe they wouldn't want to report the car damage if it was by one of their own employees and might undermine their claim that a customer is liable for it.  If such a report was made, but didn't identify their own employee as the driver involved and they knew it, it would be a false statement to police or DMV, or similar to perjury, while if it did, then it would undermine their claim that you are responsible for repairing the damage.  

    If they are demanding payment for damage you did not directly cause, essentially damage caused to their vehicle for which they want to be equitably compensated (loss of profit during the period when the car was being repaired), then their claim is suspect if they have not themselves followed the law appropriate to the hit-and-run they claim happened.  

    They may have "unclean hands".

    If you have insurance coverage, contact your insurer, and let them handle it.  They have attorneys, and that is why you have insurance.
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    tj
    If the damage occurred on the date you left it, but based on the body shop invoices repairs did not start for 6 weeks, but they are claiming you owe them damages for the period they could not rent it, until it was returned repaired, then they had an obligation to mitigate their alleged damages.  

    If they could have reasonably sent it in for repair within a couple days, getting it back in, say, a week, but instead they sat on it for a month, then a month of lost rental profit is not damages caused by you, but instead a result of their own action or lack of it.

    Your insurance company's attorney should know how best to proceed.
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    tj
    Report where the Enterprise franchisee attempted to charge the customer for alleged damage that actually occurred after it was returned and logged in.  Enterprise corporate overruled.

    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/146/RipOff0146715.htm

    Other complaints consistent with attempting to collect damages from customers who believe no damage occurred under their care.  This may be a scam attempted at some sites when customers turn down the collision damage waiver.

    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/scam-and-fraud-c58578.html
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/enterprise-rent-a-car-chicago-13
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    DG
    | 2 replies
    Enterprise is a scam.  I was charged over $400 for a very small scratch in the front bumper.  I drive 150 miles a day to work on highways.  What does Enterprise expect, brand new cars after miles of use?  Well, if they charge every driver for new body parts after each drive, I guess they will have brand new chassis'.  I will NEVER rent from Enterprise again.
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      Karen replies to DG
      Dear 'DG",

      Sorry to hear about your nasty experience with Enterprise. Sounds like they try to make money off their rentals by taking advantage of their customers. Maybe the small scratch was already there before you drove off the lot. Next time it would be a hoot to rent a car for a few days, but before you sign the agreement...ask for the manager to walk out to the lot with you and take pictures of him/her standing by the vehicle from different vantage points. Make sure Enterprise has a comprehensive policy that covers normal wear and tear. And before you return your limo, check it over, go to Auto Zone and touch up any scratches with a matching paint that will probably cost you @ $10.

      Signed,

      A Sympathetic and Disappointed Renter from Enterprise
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      Tiffany replies to DG
      I have rented from Enterprise for years, and so has my family.  I have had the worst experiences with the Fayetteville, AR location.  The management and staff were extremely rude, and accused me of smoking in the vehicle because there were "ashes".  I asked if I could see them, and there was debrit (from shoes) in the vehicle and I did not see ashes.  I AM a smoker, and so I am sure with my purse being in a hot vehicle for 3 hours while I was in class it would indeed smell that way, being that I had just gotten out of class.  The lack of respect and dishonesty that Enterprise shows its "valued" customers is appaling--I will also NEVER rent from Enterprise again.
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    Dennis
    | 1 reply
    My son was in an accident on the interstate with our car. He hit a bale of hay and had to be towed to a repair shop. 400 miles from home he rented a car and during the inspection told the emploee of the rental company there was a scratch on the bumber and a dimple on the back fender. The emploee wrote up the agreement and unaware my son signed the agreement. I know my son is telling the truth and I don't like the practices of the rental car companies. He did not get any additional insurance and used his credit card. I would appreciate any direstion on the matter.
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      Karen replies to Dennis
      Hi Dennis!

      The first thing I want to say is thank the Lord your son is OK. If he mentioned the scratch and dent in the back fender to the employee of the rental company, why would your son suspect this would be omitted from the inspector's report? Taking pictures is always a good idea, but remember your son had just been in a car accident which can be very traumatic and he was 400 miles from home. Does your son remember the rental employee specifically asking him if he wanted additional insurance, or did he just hand him a form to sign?    

      Straight away get in touch with your son's Credit Card company and challenge the charges. Believe me, if you're on the straight track, they'll put the pressure on the rental company and your son will be reimbursed for all charges. In the end, good always overcomes those bad guys. I pray it all works out for you, but it's unfortunate your son had to experience this crap. )  :

      God Bless and Keep You.

      Karen
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    Dennis
    Forgot the emploee indicated on the agreement no damage.
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    Enterprise-A-Lie
    | 1 reply
    Somewhat similar experience, this is fresh. I had an accident on my owned car. Sent it to the repair shop, Insurance covered my rental car, so they rented me the car from the same building's Enterprise-Rent-A-car. I had hardly used the vehicle since I work in the NYC and take the bust to go there from NJ.
    My accident vehicle was repaired and then I went to pick it up. The receptionist took the rental keys and said I was fine. There was no Enterprise guy to check the car around. Also the car was in a prefrect shape when I returned, I personally checked it then.
    A week later I get a call from my Insurance agency that Enterprise filed a claim against the rental car damages. I said that's untrue, the Insurance company got my recorded statement on file and said that they would contact me later.

    I am shocked!! Enterprise Rent A Car is a lier company and I would never rent a car from them ever, will make sure that I pass this story around to my friends and families.
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      Bugs Bunny replies to Enterprise-A-Lie
      We just stepped on the same rake today in Langhorne, PA.
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    Michelle Cho
    Agreed.  I will never rent from Enterprise again (La Jolla, San Diego, across the street from UCSD).
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    Sujoy Paul
    On 16th of Nov my Insurance Company arranged a rental car for from Enterprise as my own car was damaged. While I took the car the representative looked at the car and marked the existing damages in the car. But she didn't look into car by sitting low. I also didn't know that they should look by sitting low so that they can see the bottom panel below the door. There was damage already in the car's bottom panel below the door which she didn't notice. When I went to return the car there was another representative and he looked into the car by sitting low and found that damage. I did mention to him that the lady didn't look at the car the way you are doing it. That's how she missed it. The damage was already present and I’m not responsible for that. The damage has rust on it, so that way you know it's done long before. I've the picture of the damage. I had the vehicle only for 3 days. But he didn't agree and said since it was not mentioned in the paper you have to be responsible for that.

    I'm just pissed about the fact because of one employee’s fault I'm responsible for a damage that I didn't do. The matter is still with their claims department. But one thing for sure I'm never going to rent a car from Enterprise in future.

    Whoever reading this make sure you really look into car while renting it thoroughly. Normal body scratch you would be able to see, but make sure you check the lower portion of the car.
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    Sharon Drummond
    I rented a car from Enterprise because my own car broke down.  Becuase I have rented from them before and know how they are with dents, scratches, and such, I parked it where no one else parks at work; it was in my driveway at home; and at the mall, it was on the end of the row with the passenger side facing the road.  I took the car back on a Saturday morning.  When I pulled in to the parking space at Enterprise, there was no one parked next to me.  It was about 45 minutes before they took care of me because there were only 2 employees and 6 people renting and 3 returning.  I took the employee outside to show her that I noticed that there were 3 different makes of tires on the vehicle as well as those tires being a mix of directionals and non-directionals.  Then the dent was seen.  They put a claim into my insurance company for a ding that happened on their parking lot and if they had taken the keys immediately from me when I came in, I truly believe there would have been no ding.  At this point, my insurance company has called it a no fault claim.  I was told that the cost to repair this ding could be about $1,000.  I have a $500.00 deductible.  To me, if this was a no fault accident and my insurance pays $500.00, Enterprise should pay the other $500.00 for being understaffed when I returned the car.
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    Vern
    About the experience of Sujoy Paul where the damage on the lower panel was not seen until the car was returned.... This experience happens on many rentals every day where cars are picked up in the evening when the lighting is so bad, no damage can be seen. On occasion, I've handwritten a note on the rental agreement that 'inspection by renter could not be completed because rental car company did not provide adequate lighting for inspection to be carried out. Will call in following day if damage is found under better lighting conditions.' So far, I've had this clause excepted.....but have I had a damage incident where it could be challenged? So far, no.
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    Dipankar Ganguli
    Enterprise at Philly airport did the same with me. When we rented the car, we walked thru all the side but who the hell will think about the roof of the car. When we went to return it at the airport return one tall guy pointed out that and later they sent me a bill of $500 for a tiny little almost invisible scratch on the roof of the car. Now I want your suggestion to how we can defy by not paying the amount.

    What happened at the end,you had to pay it or you fought?
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    Dipankar Ganguli
    Enterprise at Philly airport did the same with me. When we rented the car, we walked thru all the side but who the hell will think about the roof of the car. When we went to return it at the airport return one tall guy pointed out that and later they sent me a bill of $500 for a tiny little almost invisible scratch on the roof of the car. Now I want your suggestion to how we can defy by not paying the amount.
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    Russ
    My wife had an accident in a rental car from Enterprise. We had insurance and they charge us the $500 deductible when we dropped the car off. My wife had already filed a claim with State Farm, so she gave them the claim number. They also wanted her story on what happened. This happened a few weeks ago. Now we get a bill in the mail for the entire repair amount. It's over $3000 and they didn't even subtract the $500 they already charged us. What a bunch of morons.
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    Angela smith
    Hamden Ct enterprise are liars especially Brittany I told her that I didn't want their insurance and she was sneaky and put it up there any way they basically called me a liar. Next step is the corporate office then BBB have not heard the last of me

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