Fraud and misrepresentation - Dish network

Complaint

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Mo. Ouijdani
Country: United States
I shopped for a dish network package and I purchased a promotion package that was offered through a Dish network authorized dealer.  The package was valued at $22.95 a month.  The sales person I spoke to (who refused to give me his full name) assured me there were no more charges except for installation fee which I accepted and was billed to my credit card.  When I received my first billing, it showed something completely different; A bill for $107 (2 months worth) but even if you add it up it does not make sense.  I contacted the billing department of Dish network to get clarification and they explained to me the package was actually $39.95 a month plus several other charges that were never disclosed to me or made aware of. Bottom line is that Dish Network could not explain what happened and want me to go back to the dealer. The dealer wants me to go back to Dish Network and I am in the middle of a shuffle to dispute charges. What to do?  Apparently Dish Network has no control over its distribution or authorized dealers and no one is willing to get a supervisor on the line who can resolve the issue.  This is a clear case of a fraudulent operation.  Anyway, I do not waht to do; please help.  by the way the distributor name is called Pronto Dish who does NOT have an e-mail system to register complaints and who gives imaginary addresses to clients to send complaints in writing.  In addition, they do not have supervisors to talk to customers...

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    Raj S
    HAs anyone been scammed by a guy in Richardson TX number named Raj Walia?  I ourchased dish from them a couple years ago and he just had me wire $600? For 12 months up front service and Hopper DVR's?
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    RRB
    This is 7th Feb 2013.... I have been offered this promotion just today... The guy said he will give me Dish for 1 year for the price of 6 months.... He has credited my Dish account with $1100 and he is asking me to send $550 by Western Union.....????? What should be my next step ????? thanks.
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    Feb 8 2013
    Well after several fliers i had dish to install dish which was free installiation and montlhy bill of 24;99 for 120 channels and with tax 32;; total well they charge my card which they ask for for 4 dollars and 95 cents well they still charge even thro they were not authroized to do so. i was to receive paper statements So i got this service 5 days after i called oct 24 . well now they send a bill for late charges and for 128;00 well that 5 times more than we agree on the 108;00 shoud paid for 3 months. they charge on card. I have talk talk to them well now they saying you go online sign a form for discounts sure  right. Did i mention i ask for all to be recorded and i had wintess here also to listen in on all . they assure me it was recorded. So tell me how can they get away with this its false atvertizing . i wrote every thing down. They call all day yesterday and hang up when i answered . this is stress   and my heart can't take it as i have a bad one. I trusted them  and what alet down. i need a lawyer to get to bottom of it all. Dear God how did i let them talk me into this mess.
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    S. Seyed
    My mother had received a similar call earlier today (2/09/13) from a guy claiming to  be a "Authorized Dealer" from Dish Network. Something about the situation sounded fishy so I listened very intently to the conversation they were having from the next room. My mother spent almost the whole day negotiating with this man and it seemed that he was willing to give her all she wanted for an amazing deal.

    This man offered to pay a year of our service for their own pocket if we pay them 6 months and transfer this money over Western Union. My mother had asked them how they can afford this and they answered that they receive $100 vouchers from every sale and they use that to pay for our service. Though it didn't add up at all, my mother went with it. They requested the answers to some innocent sounding questions "account number, TV Reciever #, and a few other questions and they had ended up adding $600 to our account. He then planned on speaking to us a few days later about us sending him money through Western Union. Western Union does NOT easily refund which is why they use it. After providing the small amount of information the guy said that the password for our account had reset and suggested that we change it.

    This guy was very easily persuaded to provide us all kinds of discounts and was happy to add another $20 to our account just to cover "tax."

    Later while I talked to my mother about this situation had come to the conclusion that this was some kind of scam and looking at this thread confirmed my feelings. With a little bit of work we figured out what they do.



    They start off the call offering an amazing deal which is very difficult to refuse. They explain that they're "Authorized Dealer" to build legitimacy. From there they begin to collect innocent sounding information from you enough to sound like they're trying to single out your account. What they're really trying to do is recover your account  and reset your Dish Password. They have found some kind of vulnerability in the system which they only need a small amount of information to reset your password. Once they are able to reset their password they can access your account and add a false credit card to it. From that card they can purchase anything they want without having to worry about losing a dime. Once they finish purchasing everything that they had promised they give you some BS reasoning as to why the password was reset and tell you to fix it.
    After you fix it, you can see that they have added however much they had promised to your account from their card and you think "Wow! They're legitimate!" You send them the money you promised them through Western Union and they pocket that. Now a couple of days later Dish Network realizes that the credit card on that account is bogus and removes all credit on your account which was paid with the bogus credit card.
    Now you're stuck with paying however much they offered to pay and the amount of money you had sent them. And this is how these cowards make their money.

    If you ever find yourself in a situation in which the deal is "TO GOOD TO BE TRUE," it probably is! Do NOT trust it. If you get a call with an offer like this say to them firmly "I know that this is a scam and do NOT call me again." Report them if you have the chance to your non-emergency police number.

    If you have already sent your money, call Western Union and try to get the payment stopped if they haven't picked the money up already, because if they have picked it up the money is as good as gone.

    Western Union and MoneyPak do NOT PROVIDE REFUNDS and do NOT verify who picks up the money. If someone wants to do a deal with you using these services, it is most probably a scam.

    Be careful with the information you provide to strangers over the phone and the internet people behind a medium are not always who they appear to be.
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    Ana Prebel
    Dish Latino lied to me. I called them and I told them I did not want a contract! They assured me that they could give me the channels with no annual contract. After 9 months of having Dish I cancelled the service.  within a couple of days i received a bill for $281.  I called Dish and assured them it was a mistake as I did not have a contract,  They told me that when they installed Dish I signed a contract for 2 years which is completely false! what I signed for was a form stating that they came and installed the equipment and that everything was correct.  I told them to send me a copy of the "contract" because I did not recall signing one. When i received the contract the signature looks a little like mine but I can assure anyone that it is not my signature, now they have sent me to collections and have no idea what else to do
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    Raj
    | 2 replies
    After being scammed by the Richardson TX Indian guys. By Western Union for $600 plus fees and money being sent to IL to a man named Ashbrook Petterson. I filed a fraud complaint with Dish when my bill now was $440.  These guys wreusing bogus checking accounts and payments were being rejected.  They established our service directly through dish posing as us.  DISH  were indeed kind enough to reduce my bill by $150 and not charge me for my moving of service.  Today we received this email:



    Dear Xxxxx

    Recently several DISH customers have reported that people claiming to be representatives of DISH have contacted them in an attempt to collect money for special promotions or upgrades. We have discovered that these callers are often asking for credit card numbers or requesting payments via Western Union or Green Dot.

    This message is to remind you that DISH will never call you asking for this or any other personal information or information related to your DISH account. If you receive a call requesting a payment in exchange for a promotion or upgrade, we encourage you to disconnect the call and contact us directly at 800-333-DISH (800-333-3474).

    As a reminder, the forms of payment that DISH accepts are:



    •Credit card
    •Debit card
    •Electronic funds transfer
    •Check by mail
    •Cash through any retail store that offers:
    ◦MoneyGram Express Payments
    ◦IPP (In Person Payments)
    ◦PreCash
    ◦CheckFreePay
    ◦ACE Cash Express
    ◦Western Union Prepaid Services*





    *If you make a payment through Western Union, you will receive a 10-digit Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN). DISH will never ask for this number.

    Thank you for being a valued DISH customer.
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      Venkat Nandam replies to Raj
      | 1 reply
      It is a joke that Dish is sending this email alert to their customers about scams when their own re-sellers are involved with it; they have known the scam has been going on for more than a year.  When I fell victim (discovered in March 2012), I had all the evidence for Dish to stop it.  If Dish wanted, they could have put security measures in place such as asking the account be authenticated, not get paid by credit cards with a different name than the Dish account holder, taking payments only from home or registered cell phone#, with additional security questions, etc.  Dish didn't deploy any of those measures - took the easy way out, simply sending an email out that too one year later.  Dish wants its growth with these re-sellers, etc.  What do they care?  I am under contract for two years - I am stuck paying.  

      I am glad, It will all come to an end this November.
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        Another victom replies to Venkat Nandam
        Hi Venkat,
        I am reading your post after having been scammed for few hundred dollars. I think its same group of people who has been scamming all of us. I received the call from dish network. I mean the caller id said "Dish Network" and the guy had all my info. How would any one think it is not dish network.

        These guys are operating with impunity. When I called them back and told I think they are running scam, they laughed and said "guess what! you have been scammed, Ha Ha Ha" and disconnected.
        And they know the dish network's business very well. They know the boxes, technology industry jargon. But I have found something very interesting about them, that can expose their identity, I will publish it later.
        Cheers!
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    Marlowe
    I just signed up with Dish Network. The rep was wonderful. Walked me through everything...so I thought....and I got all scheduled and paid. The problem was once the bill was emailed to me they neglected to tell me anything about auto bill pay. If I did not do auto bill pay they would now charge me another $10 per month. I know it is not much...but $240 for the whole contract is alot, not to mention the principal of it all. They call the $10 a bonus for being paperless (never mentioning auto bill pay) and we discussed this over and over. I even spoke with a manager regarding this, as I had to pay for it on my first payment then once I go and sign up to be "paperless" then each bill would credited $10. Again, no mention of auto bill pay. I am paperless with other companies but that does not mean auto bill pay. I call right back one receiving my receipt and they said too bad. Either auto or you pay the $10. I canceled. Now just waiting for my credit.....If I did business like this I too would have unhappy customers. They would not work with me either. Again it is the principal. Guess I will stick with Directv....Dish did not want my business that bad. I will surely let all my friends know to BEWARE!
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    Jay
    Dish Network is a dishonest company.  I signed up with them about 4 months ago.  When I signed up I was told I would receive a $100 American Express gift card in the mail.  When the card arrived it was only for $25.  When I called Dish about it, they claimed that they don't have $100 cards to give out.  They said to call a different company locally, whom I supposedly bought my package from.  When I called them, they stated that they are only the install company.  This is the crap they do people!  They promise you something, send you something different, and then make it impossible to figure out who you need to contact to make it right.  NOT A VERY GOOD BUSINESS MODEL!!!
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    stacmed dodge ram
    Ok live out in country in tn, 8 miles from city have dish on the house with programming,but when i call for internet that they say we can give you anywhere this is not true its not out this way yet you have to be kidding me, i guess that dart that they throw on tv doesnt apply to where im located at but i can get tv programming just dont get it, think im going to let contract expire and move on tough [***] dish you screwed up 1tell to many times for me
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    stacked dodge ram
    Ok live out in country in tn, 8 miles from city have dish on the house with programming,but when i call for internet that they say we can give you anywhere this is not true its not out this way yet you have to be kidding me, i guess that dart that they throw on tv doesnt apply to where im located at but i can get tv programming just dont get it, think im going to let contract expire and move on tough [***] dish you screwed up 1 to many times for me
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    pedro conga
    Dish Latino wants to scam me. they want to charge me for early cancellation fee the amount of $199. When i singed the contract they said that it was not commitment, now they said that i singed the contract and if i break it before i have to pay. they also want me to pay 17.99 for shipping so i send their equipment. what a bunch of thief. We the people have to stop watching TV. they are all a bunch of thief. dish Latino, Comcast and direct TV.They all the same. if it wasn't for us the customer they wouldn't exist. we should be getting pay to watch tv because they sell commercial and we buy the products.
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    JUT
    Hi! My father-in-law just got stuck in this. They have credited $2000 something to our account on dish. How do we get out of this?

    Any suggestions?
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    R. Lewis
    These people have fake names and identification that are impossible to find because the names are search proof most search engines.
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    R. Lewis
    If they have a shirt with dish and direct tv walking the streets without a company vehicle they are part of a traveling scam circus. They go town to town dropping each other off pushing over priced installation service that you think is free until you get a bill.
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    MNdishcustomer
    | 2 replies
    NOV 2013 -I recently got scammed in a similar manner for 900 USD WESTERN UNION TRANSFER. These guys knew all about my account I did not provide any information. They were  able to get into my dish account and credited 3000 USD using Amex and yesterday they took all the money back as this CC was probably stolen. I called dish and asked them how can someone change my account and programming at will as they were able to add Hindi Mega Pack and HBO and they were able to get new Dish Installed without their knowledge, Dish had no answer but to say that your account might be hacked. I told them I did not give any information to them and it seems there are some dish insiders on this scam because as soon as I would call dish these scamsters will immediately call me back.

    IT IS PRETTY SOPHISTICATED SCAM. DO NOT FALL FOR IT.

    SOMEHOW THEY HAVE ALL YOUR INFORMATION AND THEY TRANSFER MONEY INTO YOUR DISH ACCOUNT TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE LEGIT.
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      tj replies to MNdishcustomer
      | 1 reply
      So this is basically like an "advance fee loan"", fake "prize winnings", or "special offer" scam, with the following added characteristics:
      1)  ability to hack Dish accounts
      2)  use of stolen credit card numbers
      3)  use of the above as a prop in a con to lure victims to send money by Western Union.

      That is a level of sophistication beyond the usual Indian swindlers running these scams.

      Please report this to FTC, ic3.gov, FBI, and Secret Service.
      Probably BBB as well, as this is a new one.
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        tj replies to tj
        Or did they pitch it as some "illegal discount", which victims would only pay for with proof?
        That would cut off reports to law enforcement.

        Still, at least notify BBB, so they can put out an alert.
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    Robin Schill
    I added internet to my Dish TV service and the Internet service is awful it's on the data plan which I was not advised I can't stream movies I can watch maybe just a few movies before it caps out and im on the highest 15mgs a month-And It's Extremely Expensive No One Informed Me I Would Be renewing another 2yr Contact Either so Frustrated and No One at Dish Will Listen to Me. I did finally get a representative to admit to me that for streaming movies this isn't a good Internet service But they say I'm still stuck with my contact. Help!

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