Collection of Non Payment

ComplaintsCollection AgenciesNational Recovery Agency

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Perez
Country: United States
WE received a call for senior citizen at this residents staing she owes money for a magizine subscription. But she refuzed to talk to me and wanted that subject she call. She wanted a credit card or Bank Car to debit her card, which she does not have. So she told them they only can get Money Orders from here. ( That what she pays for Items ) and they gave her an address P.O. Box 67015, Harrisburg, PA 17106. To send money order to.

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    Larry A
    Good grief, do they have that many lawyers to represent them in all these actions????? The Government shud disban this company from doing any business in the USA....
    they must have gotten their fraud education from Nigeria......yuk yuk
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    Larry A
    I wonder why do any of the credit reporting agencies even accept any reports from these NRA NRS,,they obviously use tactics and reports that are false and require lawsuits to correct.....
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    tj
    The clients pay them.

    The CRA's just say their client said the information was "accurate", so they don't care as long as they get paid.

    It practically takes a class action, or action by FTC or a state Attorney General, to even get their attention.  Otherwise, the CRAs may even make money off of consumer disputes.

    There have been a couple of cases where CRAs stopped taking credit reporting from a source, due to "errors".  One case was with a debt collector for terminated Bally's Fitness accounts a few years back.
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    frustrated?
    i just had the same thing happen to me. my bank called me to let me know there was something new from the nat'l recovery for bmg music. they reported that it was an account from 2009 and when i called them they told me the debt was from 2004? i have never received a bill from bmg nor the debt collectors. i had always paid my bills and cancelled  the account as well.  i demanded that they send me somehting in writing and they said they could send me a statement and i should expect to receive it in a "plain white envelope with just a po box number and harrisburg, pa address.. wth.  are they so shady that they dont even have business type mailings.  im not falling for this.  but it just pisses me off that these agencies can put anything on your credit report and hurt your credit. then you have to prove yourself over and over to the creit bureaus....
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    Ginger
    We have the same problem with National Recovery Agency. They are saying that we did not pay for a Christmas Village scene we purchased from Hawthorne Village. We had the check number that paid for the item and had paid for all the others $57 was reported on my husband's credit report as a collection, which brough his credit score down. We disputed the item with the credit bureau and NRA said it is accurate. We paid for all we received so why would we not pay $57?
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    tj
    You have proof you paid.

    You disputed their "erroneous" entry via the CRA.  They verified, which is the first step to establishing their liability for their error.

    Indications from other complaints are that they may be routinely collecting on unowed "debts" and possibly faking their "verifications".  In particular, this has shown up in connection with old BMG/Columbia House accounts, where complaints allege they have been routinely damaging the credit of consumers who never even had such accounts, over small amounts similar to yours.  They appear to have decided it's profitable to play "chicken" with people's credit reports.

    If you want it off your credit reports, get an attorney and sue them.  It will probably go away really quickly.  You might try www.naca.net to find an attorney in your state.
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    jj
    Hey tj it sounds like you work for them.
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    Wendy
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    I have received many calls from NRA and yes I do owe this bill so I have set up payment arrangements, but I am unemployed and receiving benefits and I was not able to pay my last payment and they called stating" that they were going to serve me papers", then they called my mom and said that they had 2 serious charghes against me and they needed to serve papers on me and that they have a sheriff with them and that they were going to the place I worked and my mom told them I was unemployed and so I called them and explained the situation and they told that they didn't know if they could stop the process of serving me papers for a non-payment warrant and that it would alos cost me $400.00 for the processor serving me papers and that I would havwe to work with the court for that payment and then she told me to hold on and came back on the phone and said that they would accept the payment next and then she told me to be quite and not say anything and that i needed to wait until the end to ask questions and she then proceeded to say that they cancelled the process of serving me papers and that the warrant was also stopped and she said that i need to get my priorities right and that they were top priority even if my lights were to be disconnected. I have $50.00 a month payment arrangements and have 2 kids and rent my house with all of the all payments that come along with it and they said that they were still top priority. They also told my mom that if i was driving and was stopped for any reason they would serve me the papers then and be arrested and that there was nothing that any one could help me. This debt is for a Payday loan that I got when I was working and I tried making arrangements with that company and they wanted bigger payments than I could make. Also this company has called my house at 7:30am and at 6:30am. These people are totally harassing me and my mom. I dont know what else to do. I am so mad.
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      johnboy replies to Wendy
      Wow that may be the greatest run on sentence in the history of mankind.  English as a second language?
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      Lin replies to Wendy
      I have talked to a lawyers office and the FTC and no-one can serve you papers or threaten to have you arrested if you owe money.  No collection or recovery agency can threaten you with papers or arrest.  They are scamming you into these payments. Report to the FTC and Attorney Generals Office.  You have rights.  They can't threaten you, it is against the law!!
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    Wendy
    NRA also told me at the end of the conversation that if one of my payments were missed again that they will garnish my unemployment check, my bank account and seize any personal property that I have and put a lien against me and issue my a non payment warrant. Excuse what the heck, can they really do all of this.
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    FDCPA Informed
    You are misguide - NRS Inc is not the same as NRA - National Recovery Agency. First of National Recovery Agency is owned by a private company, NRA Group LLC. It is not incorporated. 2nd of all, NRA does not handle car loans or repossessions.
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    tj
    You have listed numerous violations of FDCPA.
    Consumers can sue for FDCPA violations, as well as similar violations of state laws.

    Contact a consumer attorney.  You might try www.naca.net
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    hannah
    they are very unorganized and half of the people dont even recall their bills.... somebody needs to stand up to this agency
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    tj
    "Unorganized" can be a deliberate strategy designed to get away with attempts to deceptively collect from the wrong people.


    Many complaints against them are over old Columbia House/BMG "music club" accounts.  

    If you review complaints against Columbia House and BMG (see consumeraffairs.com), you find many complaints reporting forced shipments of unordered merchandise, failure to account for purchases against "teaser offer" requirements, as well as unwanted shipments and billing of people who claim they never even signed up or had a Columbia House account.  Complaints suggest they may have been actively  padding their sales with crammed "orders" under the guise of "negative option" marketing.

    They were also sued by FTC for violating Do Not Call regulations by calling past customers who cancelled MONTHS after cancellation.  
    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/07/columbiahouse.shtm

    What also shows up reported against several debt collectors collecting on old CH/BMG accounts are numerous "termination fee" "debts".  

    CH ran their negative option scheme with terms allowing about $150 to be crammed onto customers' balances if they didn't order the "agreed" purchases in some period of time.  Given the reports of sloppy purchase accounting, and even crammed "orders", some fraction of these "termination fees" may have been fraudulent, but they may have added value when old accounts of inactive customers were sold off to debt collectors years later.  

    "Aging" inactive accounts may have increased their value when sold by adding the "termination fee".  In addition, numerous consumer complaints report collection activity many years later (6 years and longer is not uncommon), long after most consumers would no longer had access to records to refute the claimed charges.

    The common thread through complaints against several debt collectors collecting on these old CH accounts is that they routinely damage credit, over questionable, possibly fraudulent bills.  In many cases, the first that people have heard of this alleged debt is from damage to their credit, over an allegedly $35 to $150 account when they were never even a CH customer.  

    These complaints, for credit damage on unowed "debt", show up in particular against NCS as well as NRA Group.  NCS got sued by the Montana AG over similar collection tactics on old Hollywood Video accounts, settling within days of being sued.

    Given this pattern, "accidental" credit damage without any notice, against people who don't even owe the alleged "debt", appears to be a deliberate shakedown tactic.  Furious consumers report that when NRA Group is called, they don't appear surprised people claim it's not their debt, but offer to remove the credit ding right after they get payment.  That isn't even normal credit agency policy.
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    Stup Calls
    I keep getting call from them stating I owed for an intorductory package. What was it for and they couldn't tell. They claimed I signed a long term aggreement with Columbia House. I keep telloing them show me the signature or take me to court!!
    They say they will keep posting to my credit report for $140.00!! What a joke I just pulled my credit (690)to purchase a car it show I have have nothing from them. Funny I got a great rate on a used car 4.2% pretty good for a used car.
    I am going to just ignore there calls. This is just one big scam!!!

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