Complaint

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Debra M. Persiano
Country: United States
I got a call today at home from a man stating he was a process server for Collin County DA's Office and he is with the Sheriff's office and needed to come serve a warrant on me.  I was shocked and asked why?  He stated do you live ....are you still at this address are you now at this address and I stated who are you?  He again, stated he was from the county going to serve court papers on me today. He gave me a toll free number for what he stated was the county's office which is 1 866.872.6116 gave me a case no. which he called a Cause No. 008307-TX. I called the number was transferred to a Mr. Fisher's office who stated that law suite in the amount of $6,214.24 was filed in Collin Co., Tx and that warrant was out for me.  He then after back and forth said let me get more information from my secretary and state this was for an outstanding debt in from Capital One a credit card that I obtained several years back and had disputes over interest charges etc.  He stated that if I did not want to go to court or jail that I could pay $1,951.00 in full by end of business today and this matter could be cleared up.  I explained that I recently lost my job etc.  Anyway, he stated that I needed to call him back by EOB today or they will serve the papers.  Ok, so that was a heads up for me.  I called the DA's office nothing is filed on me as of today, after searching PMG it is clear that they do not practice best practices for collections and have been in trouble for this before back in 2004.  I need someone to give me advise. I want to pay off my debt, I don't want this type of collections to continue this upset me, made my blood pressure raise, this type of collections are not the right thing to do.  Had they called and ask to make arrangements or give me an opportunity to clear the matter, rather then threaten me by taken legal action, or harassment stating they are sending a sheriff over today.  This is wrong, bad business, and should not continue this company is bad news.

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    tj
    "They said that I owed them $4,378 which included attorney and court fees and they were trying to locate me to serve me."

    How could you "owe them for attorney and court fees" if you had never been
    "served"?  Liars.


    "to make it worst pulled my credit report 5 days ago."

    Many complaints are reporting that they found their credit reports had been pulled within days of receiving these threatening calls, on "debts" they did not recognize.  In some cases, the "debt" sounded similar to some account on their reports, but details were missing or in error.  

    The consistency of reports of pulling credit reports shortly before these abusive and illegal calls points to the possibility they are using information from credit reports either to fake the "debt", or to size up the victim.  It is illegal under FCRA to pull credit reports without "permissible purpose".  Faking a "debt" in a phony "debt collection" scheme is not "permissible purpose".


    "The guy on the phone got mad because I would give him my address and said that he was going to contact the Social Security Administration and get my address and it will be an extra $400 tact on to my bill "

    Liars.  Social Security won't provide an address of another person, not to debt collectors, not even to relatives.  Too many ex-spouses escaping abusive relationships.  


    "it will be an extra $400 tact on to my bill and another $1,000 for having the county to serve me papers. The most they will do is forward a letter."

    Liars.  He's "blowing smoke", just making up "fees" to threaten you.  No amount of money paid to SSA will get them to disclose your address, and it doesn't cost "$1000" for "the county to serve" you.


    "called my mother's house and my wife's cell phone"

    They could do that, yet they "want your address".  They have bought access to a skip-trace service, which gives them lists of probable relatives, addresses and phone numbers.  MOST complaints against them are reporting that this "process server" first calls a relative.  It's an act.  A "con".


    " These fools are CRAZY"

    Not crazy, since they are getting money from someone.  But they are sociopaths.


    Contact the FTC, your state Attorney General, the California Attorney General, the Corona Police Department, and the Riverside office of the FBI.
  • 0
    TJ
    THIS JUST HAPPENED TO ME TODAY AND IT WAS THE SAME NAME MIKE DAVIS AND SAME NUMBER AND SAME COMPANY. THEY TOLD ME THE EXACT SAME THING THEY TOLD YOU. THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
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    Maja Triab
    I have found out some every disturbing news , this TJ character is an ex employee who was fired from this office , he is a prime example of a disgruntled employee looking for revenge I have looked further into his "research" and found that this ex employee was actually doing business with these "companies" , TJ was caught giving the foreign janitor a dirty Sanchez in the bathroom and also repeatedly sodimzing his own rectum with a plunger that was actually used by this Foreign janitor to un clog toilets, furthermore TJ was caught IN THE ACT OF SUCKING OUT the janitors dirty foreign cum and being caught in the act with a hot white load of Arab spunk on his chin, I cant imagine how disgraced he felt( not cause of the initial cum shot but the fact he was caught)
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    CORONA DEBT SCAM
    THINGS MUST BE REALLY SLOW AT THE CORONA DEBT SCAM BOILER ROOM.
    YOUR POST SUGGEST THAT YOU ARE A LITTLE WORRIED THAT THE PUBLIC IS FINALLY ON TO YOUR SCAMS AND PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING YOU.
    YOU REALLY SOUND DESPERATE.
    I'M GLAD YOU POSTED SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE FOR THEMSELVES THE SICK ANIMALS WORKING/RUNNING THE CORONA DEBT SCAM.
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    WENDY
    Sounds like your speaking from a personal experience with the plunger.
    YOUR M.O. never changes. As soon as anybody says anything negative about the CORONA DEBT SCAM you always say that they were an ex employee that was disgruntled.(IT'S GETTING OLD) Just like the PI Mr. Peterson that use to work for you?
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    HA HA HA
    If you're bored you can find the name of one of the idiots working there.  Use Foursquare to find out who's "checked in" at Pacific Management Recovery.  God people are stupid:

    https://foursquare.com/joshuaserrano
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    CORONA DEBT SCAM SUCKS
    Thanks for the info. This is great! UNION, HEAVY HITTERS, PRIME WEST, PACIFIC MANAGEMENT. That [***] Joshua is checked into all of them at one time or another. I will forward this information to the proper authorities.
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    MAIL SCAM!! Watch out!
    I got court summons via regular mail (regular mail? you kidding me?). It was from this address "1191 Magnolia Avenue Suite D396 Corona, CA 92879" and phone number (877) 252-5402, saying that I have to pay credit debt over $1000. If I pay them the money within 10 days, they will give me a receipt of payment and everything would be OK.

    WTF? I don't even have a credit card.

    At the bottom it says "This communication is an attempt to collect a debt  blah blah blah"

    Relly? On summons paper?

    Everything look real summons, real PLD-C-001 form and SUM-100 form... except no case number, no signatue, no court date. No seal stamp. No stamp that says "FILED"

    And the court is located in different county, 2 hours from my location. By the way, this is a violation of FDCPA 811 2 (a).

    And there is another address on the summons which is 980 Montecito Drive Suite 205, Corona CA 92879 which doesn't exist.


    Wow, things that these humans do for money. Wow! I wonder if they breathe, eat, [***], sleep, kiss their children!
  • 0
    .
    To date, most contact by the Corona Scam has been by phone.  They have usually avoided sending anything by mail, either totally ignoring demands for validation, or sending some "settlement letters", usually by email.

    Sounds like they have crossed another line:  sending documents intended to look like court documents.  

    Many others have reported attempts to collect alleged debts that appeared faked.  Check your credit reports, and see if they pulled one of them recently.

    Given the wording, you could wait maybe 20 days, and check with the alleged court to see if any suit has been filed.  It is a violation of FDCPA to threaten to take any action they can't or have no intention of taking.

    It is a violation of FDCPA to sue you in a venue other than the one you reside in or where the contract was entered into.

    It is also a violation to send anything that looks like legal documents that are not.

    It is also mail fraud to send any bill or invoice, or anything that looks like one, through the U.S. Mail, to demand payment for unordered merchandise.


    Contact FTC, your state Attorney General, the Califorina Attorney General, the U.S. Postal Inspector (MAIL FRAUD), the Corona Police Department, and the Riverside office of the FBI.
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    tj
    "fired employee"?  What a joke.  I've been tracking and profiling scum  for years.
    https://complaintwire.org/Complaint.aspx/rjq4I-kGbgBOnAjJcmsbzQ

    You just tried the same smear tactic on a P.I. looking into you.
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/collection-agency-s/rincon-management-se/rincon-management-services-pac-db3e9.htm
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    Dennis
    These fools called me last week over a state taxes that I've paid.  My dad just called me saying that some guy called him trying to serve me papers, I told him not to worry about it, since I noticed that they did a skip trace on my credit report.  I know who they are.  let the scare tactics begin.
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    .
    Again, it looks like they are branching out from their original deceptive tactics.

    "Collecting" on "state taxes" crosses another legal line, similar to the above reported use of fake "court documents.   Most past faked "debts" have been for supposedly old credit card accounts.  Claiming "state taxes" are owed would play up the "fear and doubt" aspect, just like the original "process server/lawsuit" act, while stealing the "legitimacy" of the state in making their threats.

    Contact FTC, your state Attorney General, the Califorina Attorney General, the U.S. Postal Inspector (MAIL FRAUD), the Corona Police Department, and the Riverside office of the FBI.
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    Dexter
    Similar thing happened to me about month ago.  This lady's name was Victoria Banks.  Also said it was a debt from HSBC for $4,392.41 and that I could settle it for somewhere around $2,300.  This company said their name was DF Group.  Their address on letterhead sent to me was from Lake Elsinore, CA.  Unfortunately, I paid them.  They said that they would send me a letter stating that the account was paid in full and closed.  Have not received a letter to date.  Email the lady about the letter and was told that any requests need to be by telephone.  Will call tomorrow.

    Thanks
  • 0
    tj
    In addition, numerous complaints are reporting the "debts" are fake.
  • 0
    bobby
    Probably because they have done nothing wrong, they collect debt and that makes people say weird things.
  • 0
    tj
    Numerous complaints indicate they are faking "debts", illegally pulling credit reports, using deceptive calls from fake "process servers" to relatives or employers to deliberately imply they have "sued", impersonating law enforcement, threatening arrest, falsely claiming they have "sued" when many consumers have found no lawsuit has been filed, failing to send the FDCPA "g" notice while falsely claiming they sent it (reported even by ex-employees), sending "documents" that appear to be legal filings (but are not) through the U.S. Mail, using various deceptive excuses to evade validation, etc.

    Federal lawsuits appear against them under various names of LLCs tied to Corona CA, indicating they are attempting to hide the extent of their operation.

    Shill.
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    .
    Don't hold your breath waiting for any "letter", you'll die first.

    Name was probably "AF Group", one of their known LLCs.  They use a Lake Elsinore mail drop under that name.


    Note how they just brushed off your email request.  Of course they prefer "telephone" requests.  No proof exists it ever happened, and you are left with little to go to court with.  They do their most extreme lying by phone, to avoid any paper trail.  That's why you will never get much in writing out of them, maybe some vague "settlement letter", with little identification of the alleged "debt".  

    Their brush-off was a delaying tactic, an attempt to run out the FRB Reg. E or FCBA dispute windows.  This is a common tactic with fraudulent charging scams, not just fake "debt collection".

    If you were fraudulently deceived into paying an unowed debt (or a debt you didn't owe to these scammers), contact your bank immediately to dispute the charges as fraudulent.  You can dispute fraudulent charges through your bank within 60 days of the statement date of the statement showing the disputed charges, under FRB Reg. E (for debit, ACH, and other EFT charges), or under FCBA (for credit card charges).  You would also be wise to close the account or block the card number to prevent additional fraudulent charges.

    Be aware that they will probably play attempts to reverse fraudulent charges as some criminal act by you, like writing a "bad check", and threaten "criminal prosecution".  It's all BS, as you paid them under duress, due to illegal and deceptive threats.  Separate from their own deception and fraud, you did not pay them "for value", so you took nothing from them by reversing your payment with a fraud dispute.

    Contact the Riverside office of the FBI.
  • 0
    tj
    Additional names:

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-676-2139
    "Maple Filing Services"


    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-680-2068
    "Protective Management Company"
    "PNCW"
    "Roy Fisher" (old alias at PMG)

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-680-0969
    "TAS" (reported linked to PMG)
    "PLG"
    "WFS"
    "Protected Management Company of the West"
  • 0
    tj
    "Maple Filing Services" doesn't show up on corporationwiki.com

    "Maple Filing Services" doesn't show up under Corona business licenses.
    Only Corona licensed businesses with "Maple" in the name are all real estate management firms:
    Maple Associates
    Maple Centre Industrial Park
    Maple Commerce Center


    However, a "Bagels Consulting Firm, Inc." shows up, linked to "Jason Begley" and Corona.
    http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Corona/jason-begley/44994451.aspx

    They also show up here, with a Riverside address:
    http://www.allbusiness.com/companyprofile/Bag ... 3630CA62-1.html
    Bagels Consulting Firm, Inc
    16027 Skyridge Dr
    Riverside, California  92503-5585

    Appears to be a residence:
    http://riverside.blockshopper.com/property/135491030/16027_skyridge/
    16027 Skyridge Dr
    Riverside, CA 92503
    ...
    Sales History (2001-present)
    $455,000 on July 2, 2008 / New Construction
    B: Shontel Begley, Jason R Begley
    S: Hearthstone Inc, Lake Hills Riverside L P, Msiii Gp Llc

    If the above information is from county property records, then "Jason R Begley" is a real person.  

    This shows up on Justia, United States of America v. Jason S Begley, in 2005 in the California Central District Court.
    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/cacdce/2:2005mc00078/176002/


    In addition, a "Wayne Lunsford" is connected to "Lunsford Investment and Management Services Inc.", also of Corona.
    http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Cor ... d/45291956.aspx
  • 0
    tj
    Additional names tied to Pacific Management and Recovery.

    Note report that AG information was passed to FBI, and they are reported to have been investigating this cluster for some time.

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-713-4371/2
    "Rockwell Office"

    "She said a "private investor" What is the name of the private investor???? well the corporate office is in Corona CA but I am in Iowa... she states. I said "I guess you can't tell me the name then?" She stated let me look at your credit report. She started naming off my mortage Company and pay down and student loans.. and then said we pulled your credit report from Experian. (My credit report shows the name of the office is Pacific Management Recovery and if you google it.. you will see multiple lawsuits and the same thing that I am reporting.. "

    "I also submitted a consumer fraud complaint with my state's attorney general's office.  They subsequently escalated it on to the FBI, because apparently the feds have been investigating this "Rockwell Office" and other similar scams for quite some time now. "

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-713-4370/2
    "Rockwell Office"
    "Rockwell Associates"
    "Rockwell Management"

    Similar complaints, usual MO, "process server" calls to relatives, threats, fake "lawsuit", fake "debt", shill posts, etc.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-713-4371
    https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/8777134371

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