Complaint

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paige
Country: United States
I am being sued by Mary Jane Elliott in Novi, MI for a Washington Mutual credit card that I have never had.  I asked for verification of debt at which they laughed and said they would sue me.  Sure enough, I have received the summons and complaint.
I called JP Morgan/Chase who purchased Washington Mutual who said I do not now or have I ever had an account with Washington Mutual.  They also said that since Washington Mutual has very publicly went under, many unscrupulous collection agencies and low-level attorneys are using Washington Mutual's name and harassing people.  
If you search Mary Jane Elliott on the internet you will see that this pathetic agency is fraudulently suing many people!

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    out to smoke mary jane :)
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    TO: Errol.

    Fight it.  Write a debt validation letter to Mary Jane.  Tell her this is not your debt and she needs to validate it.  She does not own the debt and more than likely she is representing a debt buyer that is not licenced in Michigan.  
    Throw everything at her just stay way from the afirmative defenses.  When she files a summons, go down to the courthouse and write a response and sign your name and put Pro Se underneth your name.

    First it will go to arbitration.  in Arbitration you can be a beligerant as you want.  They are not a court of law.  do what ever you want.  Heck,  tell the arbitrators  they owe you a debt and tell them they have 30 days to respond or you'll consider the debt valid.  You can even go as far as telling them to [***].  Again they are not a judge and you cannot get contempt there.  

    What will happen next is she will file a summary judgement.  A summary judgement is a way to speed up the process.  When a summary judgement is filed she is also telling the judge that you have no case, find in the favor of me.  fight this one also.  With enough static and a well written response you can get this to trial.  You want a jury trial. Do you think there will be a debt collector on the jury?  heck no.  It will be an unemployed auto worker who is already bitter at the collection agents that came after them and took their house and all they want to do is stick it to someone. Justice served.

    Answer all court papers sent to you no matter what.  You do not want a default judgement at all.

    Google debt collection and you will find a plethora of ways to defend yourself in court and win.

    one final thought.  She sent you a dunning letter that was not sent with a delivery receipt.  She really has no proof the letter got to you so if a judgement has already been placed against you just ask where the dunning letter is and where all the delivery receipts are for all the court papers that HAVE to be served to you.  A judge will not put up with improper service of a summons.  And for god sakes stop calling them.  Do everything is writing.  calling them can accidently cause the debt to reage or get you to say something you would never say if thought out in a letter.
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      Cyndy replies to out to smoke mary jane :)
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      I actually got my first letter on May3rd, 2012, I did call and talked to the rude Sam.  I told him I was disputing the debt and he said "fine"..we will continue to proceed with collection action.  I read on the paper sent that I had 30 days to file a dispute letter, for verification in writing.  I wrote a letter of dispute and sent it on the 4th of May...I sent a copy of that letter to the Attorney General's Office, Consumer Protection Division, ( I CC on the letter that I  sent to MJE that I was sending a copy to the Attorney General's Office).  I also have filed a complaint with FTC on May 7th, as I have received nothing in writing concerning this debt from 2006.  The Debt has been sold to 3 different companies and now is with the "bottom Feeder".  I don't believe that MJE is allowed to charge interest on a debt, but I will find out.  And nothing in writing to me in the last 5 years concerning the status of this debt.  I was a write off..!  I think I will send an additional letter for debt verification to MJE certified mail, so I have a delivery receipt.  We need to file a class action against her and then get her disbarred.
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        Lisa replies to Cyndy
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        She is NOT allowed to obtain interest from a debt or collect any amount that is greater than your original debt.  In other words......she CANNOT charge you anything greater than what you owe.  This is a violation of  FDCPA and Ethics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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          kimberly sego replies to Lisa
          My debt was 860 and she charging me over 2500 dollars it was a debt that I occured 15years ago and I paying her 50 a month know she want my ststae tax return help what can I do
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    lea
    I have Mary Jane's office calling my employer asking for employment verification. This is for a credit card debt back in 2002, for a company that went under and I was no longer able to even use the card. What can I do to fight this?
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    cjss
    Your right she cannot garnish disability.....Although the bank did release funds to her because I had made a cash deposit and they had no proof if that money was disablity money. Since then I have been summons to court and I failed to appear. I have talked to a woman there and she is unwilling to work with me. She wants me to pay the full amount including court costs $1,645.00. I dont have it........so should I expect to have my state refund garnished next year.
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    tj
    Contact an attorney with experience in FDCPA law.

    You may or may not have any responsibility for a corporate card, but many debt collectors will deceptively tell you that you do since that is the only way they will get any money out of you.

    The contact with your employer, however, especially lacking a judgement and garnishment order, is third party disclosure of the debt, done solely to threaten to embarrass you in front of your employer, to coerce you into paying what you may or may not owe just to make them stop.  You may be able to sue THEM, under FDCPA.

    Illegal coercion is even more likely on old debt such as this.  If the last payment was in 2002, about 8 years have passed, and in most states, SOL may have passed and after 7 years from the original date of delinquency they can't even put it on your credit reports.  Thus they may be willing to resort to illegal harassment, trying to get you to make even a token payment which might restart SOL and leave you on the hook for the whole amount.

    Contact an attorney.  Since FDCPA allows courts to award attorney fees on top of statutory and actual damages, you may be able to find one with experience in this area willing to work on contingency.

    Try www.naca.net
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    tj
    Then basically they garnished your accounts for a debt you never owed, either through a judgement they obtained against someone else erroneously assessed on you, or through a judgement they obtained through wrongly suing you for someone else's debt, probably obtaining a default judgement through improper "sewer service".

    Either way, the judgment may be vacated, and the garnishment reversed, with possible damages and your attorney fees, if you respond promptly.

    Contact an attorney with experience in consumer debt.  
    You might try www.naca.net
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    Erin
    I just had a young girl tape a summuns to my door. No signature or knock on the door at all. This is for an old credit card. Do I answer this by requesting them to validate the debt? Can I still do that? What can I do to stop this from turning into a garnishment?
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    tj
    If you are being sued, you respond to the lawsuit.  If you fail to do that, you will lose and they will probably get a default judgement.

    Requesting validation is not a substitute.  

    You may, however, use "discovery" to force them to produce documentation of the alleged debt.  If the debt is so old it is past SOL, you may also be able to raise that to get the case thrown out.  In addition, if they are suing you in error, or when the debt was past SOL, you may also be able to sue them for violations of FDCPA.

    Get an attorney.
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    tj
    One pattern visible in the complaints against this debt collector is that there are a high number of complaints alleging they have sued people with no connection to the alleged debt.

    They appear to be looking for default judgements, and benefit from being very sloppy either in identifying and serving the correct person, or in garnishing the correct accounts.

    If you are stuck in this position, or if you have just found out that they have gotten a default judgement against you without serving you, get an attorney immediately.  If they have sued you "in error", or failed to serve you notice of that suit to obtain a default judgement, you may be able to vacate it and sue them.
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    greenleaf&poor
    I am going to court against her in the near future.  I have not received and notification of my indebitness or who the original creditor was until I was served with court documents notfiying me I was being sued.  I would be willing to join any class action suit against this bottom feeder attorney.  After that, who in there right mind buys bad debt knowing it is uncollectable after 4 other collection agencies have tried?  What is she thinking, she can get blood out of a rock?  My update to follow within two weeks.
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    JPL
    Hi,

    I had a question for you on affirmative defenses.  You said to stay away from them.  Why is that?  Don't you want to answer a summons and complaint with some affirmative defenses.
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    On you like White on Rice
    Because she's a scumbag and needs to work alot harder than a default judgement.  Just file a general denial and then blast her with as many counter claims as you can.  The more the merrrier.  Remember,  law is 10% of what is really on paper and 90% bull.  and besides, it's up to a judge anyway.  Just because she files dosen't mean she will win.  She's hoping for a default judgement and never want's to see the inside of a courtroom.  And to think sh only made 170,000 last year doing this stiff.  WEAK MISSY! WEAK!
    BTW. Thanks for joining Mary....
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    cjss
    Until today I havent heard from MaryJane in months. She called my house after 8:00 pm and I didnt answer I have no money for her anyway. So whats the point. She was unwilling to work with me before. So now I wonder whats going to happen next........
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    Lola
    My Mom (who is 81) is receiving letters from Mary Elliott.  We have lawyers within the family who are Michigan based and they are going to look into this matter.  She did default on a card from Discover for $1600.00 but she has no assets that they can go after.  We have determined that her Social Security is out of her reach. After looking at the above comments, someone has to stop this woman.  I will keep updating as information comes in.
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    Guy with same name
    I'm also being sued by Mary Jane just because I have the same name as the debtor.  I called their office and verified the last 4 digits of my SS number and they said they were not the same as the debtor.  Yet they have not dropped the case.  I filled written responses with the court with cc to Mary Jane, and now I have received a notice to appear in court.
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    tj
    Then get an attorney and appear.  

    You may be able to sue them for FDCPA violations for misrepresenting the status of the debt (that YOU owe it), and recovery your attorney fees.
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    Thns
    Is it to late for me to have her validate my account if I have already started to pay her?
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    tj
    If you don't ask, you won't get.

    Do you have reason to believe they have demanded payment for a debt you don't owe, or for more than you owe?

    Did they make any deceptive statements to convince you to pay without requesting validation, or did they fail to notify you that you could request validation?

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