Fake process server calls
Complaint
Quintin L King
Country: United States
I have received numerous calls from this "company", all of which start with a request for address verification for Process serving. Intimations that a law suit has been filed (the Company, to the best of my knowledge is in Florida, I live and own a business in Illinois). What process server doesn't have an address? These people call constantly and wont reveal the name of the entity for which they are collecting unless you "confirm" your address and last four of social. I am formally filing a complaint with the FTC and the Florida Dept of Financial Regulation, but wondered if anyone has had experience with these people?
Comments
There are basically 2 categories:
1) Indian or Pakistani fake "payday loan" scammers calling from overseas, often reported to have thick accents, use ridiculous fake "law enforcement agency" names, and make outrageous threats of "arrest", "prosecution", or "lawsuits".
2) U.S. based fake "debt collection" scammers, often using calls by fake "process servers", to pretend to be sueing.
They both depend on their threats and deception to con people into paying them before they have had any chance to check them out. In particular, neither ever provides any proof any debt is owed.
There were a number of debt collectors running this type of scam, located in the Jacksonville FL area. The Florida AG shut several down, including Ellis Crosby, but they may just be moving, changing their names, and continuing "business as usual". In one case, a new scam "debt collector" started showing up in complaints under the phone number of the one just shut down. They apparently hadn't even terminated their phone service.
What phone numbers?
Any accents?
Do they want you to call back some number?
Any threats, like that you will be "arrested" if you don't call back, or don't disclose your SSN?
Any other details?
Even the lowest security access to the skip-trace service Accurint will reveal the first 5 SSN digits for anyone, and if you enter the last 4, it will confirm a match, revealing the full 9 digits.
SSN security is basically full of holes.
These folks are American...
Very careful about the language they use re: suits/criminal actions, etc...but continuously badger about confirmation of last four and address. Given what you said in your post, I see what the scam is (verification of the last four and address, will get you the remaining social and ID theft).
I checked to determine if there was a Thurston and Associates listed in Florida as a collections agency, and there is. Oddly, that company's license was issued only a day before the calls started.
Of further interest: I started to get these strange calls, such as this one, after re-signing a contract with Verizon wireless.
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 414&licDesc=CCA
I am filing a complaint on my letterhead (I am a lawyer/lobbyist) and would be happy to file a complaint for everybody....
Thurston & Associates LLC
5270 Old Cheney Hwy
Orlando FL 32807
Owned by JT Financial Inc
Orange County Tax ID #3400-1092768
write a letter to them, make sure it's certified and tell them you are disputing claim and state a cease and desist order from calling you. Make sure you state that harrassment is a crime an so is false representation eg 'fraud' and that threats are illegal 'serving you'
And call 1-888-242-1315 and give them crap. I called 4 times today and now they send me straight to voicemail. I won't confirm my ss# and they won't give me any info. I just want them to stop calling my parents.
Another recent consumer post reports "accounts" were allegedly just transferred to another shell LLC, "Levine and Cohen and Associates", with the same or similar ownership.
See post by Quentin King:
https://complaintwire.org/complaint/xKoBAAAAAAA/thurston-and-associates/13
Consider the possibility that the bankruptcy is a sham, with the assets already passed off to other LLCs with common ownership.
Any details on the partner in prison?
Note alternate names "Buchanon Capital Management" and "Vanderbilt and Associates"
\https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-227-7904/8
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-855-541-2795/3
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-304-205-0244
Recent complaint activity under "Mendenhall":
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-605-5414/2
Reported connections between "Mendenhall" and "Vanderbilt & Associates" and Buchanon Capital Management"
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-342-0623/2
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-202-568-6189
Debt collectors calling Texas residents without a license and bond violate Texas law, and the Texas AG will issue a cease and desist order and/or fine them.
Let them contact you, then contact the Texas AG.
Also, if they contact you, get their address and send a certified letter disputing the debt. Under Texas law, if they fail to respond to your dispute within 30 days, they have another violation, and you can sue them, in Texas.
If they continue to harass you with calls, file complaints with FTC, your state AG, and the Florida AG, then find an attorney and sue them for violating TCPA ($500 to $1500 penalty PER CALL).
If they contact you, provide NO information, but dispute any alleged debt, demanding proof that you owe it.
If they keep harassing you without providing any proof, sue them for violating FDCPA. You might find an attorney in your state through www.naca.net