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Complaint

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Anne Offor
Country: Australia
Will make this short and sweet, I hope.
Bought a timeshre in 2006, havent been able to use it as husband works away. We were shown a resort we were told we could use as we didnt like the one we were buying into. So.... we try and use it two years later, and find out that they want us to pay $410 a  night per person ontop of the $10,000USD we have paid to stay anywhere. They dispute they showed us this resort, they dispute they didnt tell us we had to pay more once they admitted we were shown the resort. And so the saga goes on. We have been told we can have 2 free weeks there, which will come to the equivalent of the price we paid originally. Why would we want to do that, it doesnt solve the problem of having to pay more if we want a holiday there. Now we wait as we want out of this whole sorry mess. It leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Husband is retiring this month and we thought we would be able to use our RCI membership without doubt as we bought into the higher levels of timeshare. Tried to find a place to go before February 2009, we have been told there is nothing on our side of the world. So we cant use the Royal Bali Club we cant use RCI. Well we can if we forever pay more, what was the point of paying into something we thought we would have for life and no more expense apart from air travel.
So people out there, beware Royal Bali Club and RCI. The directors and President must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Comments

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    Meh
    | 3 replies
    Hi Marie!
    I guess it's because it's not technically a scam, but a real business. It suits some people, but I would say it doesn't suit the most. There's lots of hidden things attached to it that the sales people won't tell you - like the maintenance fees that rise every year or that fact that it's probably not going to be that easy to trade your week in Bali for a Hilton in Florida with RCI (or some other really nice hotel that they pitched you about) - because, well... everyone will want to go there! Now, if you get a timeshare AT that Hilton in Florida - then that's when it's probably a good thing to own a timeshare :)
    Royal Bali tend to sell all their weeks at their resorts and then build new and fancy ones... but then never really bother to invest in upgrading the old ones... and then you're stuck with that one for 10 years or so...
    To be fair, there will be lots of people that decide to buy this timeshare on their holiday, then go home, google up what they've just purchased and then freak out "because it's a scam". Well, it's not. You still get that holiday they promised every year, RCI does exist and you have the opportunity to exchange weeks (in that case, I'd recommend learning how it works so that you can actually benefit from it) but if you decide to cancel... that's when problems arise. I know in Europe there have been a lot of changes in the timeshare market and I think there's it now a cooling off period of 14 days. It won't be the case in Bali though...
    They are still operating because this sales method still works. A high pressured sales pitch is much more effective that just giving people the tours and then hoping they would come back to you later. There's a reason why it's in Bali aswell - not only it's a great tourist spot, but the businesses will also be under Indonesian law.
    As to how those salesmen still sleep at night, I don't know. To be fair, most people I met working there were these slick salesmen type that probably only care about the money they bring home at the end of the day. And believe me, if you are a good seller, you can afford a pretty sweet lifestyle - especially in Indonesia.
    Well, the bottom line is, I would say try to get the most out of your timeshare since you have it now. Good luck with the fight if you still plan to get out of it!
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      Johnni replies to Meh
      | 2 replies
      I was told because it was brought in Indonesia you can just stop paying the maintenance fee and give up your 18,000 or what ever you paid.Surely they wouldn't Chase you up when they have made that much money off you.Has anyone done this or have any information ?I'd like to talk to someone from royal that can speak English that I can understand .Such a pain trying to understand the people on the Bali number.Give me a phone number Royal(hansenbrett@hotmail.com)
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        Johnni replies to Johnni
        Ignore this post by johnni
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        hits replies to Johnni
        Hi, one way you can contact them where they speak English is on Skype. Look up "members services Bali" and you will be able to speak to them on Bali ours. There is someone called Widya and the main managers name is Mr Hudson.
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    Irma
    Hi all, no need to explain our story - sounds much like the rest

    Can anyone tell me if they have been successful in getting their money back via the Bali-lawyers lawsuit?

    Please refer to their website for further info - looks promising

    www.bali-lawyers.com

    Please respond to izeherovic@yahoo.com.au
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    Mick
    Same store how do I get my money's back
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    Also Burnt
    | 5 replies
    As for many above I was also caught up in this caper in Bali and signed up based on what I thought I understood in the almost three hours in the sales pressure cooker.  Having had some time to reflect on both the product and the selling method I really want to bail out but cannot see any avenue.  Just wish that I had been aware of this before we had travelled: http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/Corporate/Media ... _traveller.html

    There may be an out with respect to this sentence in the DOCEP document as I understand that the Karma Royal Group is Australian owned ( they have an office in Perth where I understand John Spence resides):

    "Property and other investments wholly owned and operated overseas are outside of the jurisdiction of Consumer Protection and other Australian consumer law enforcement agencies."

    I would welcome any opinions/advice.  Please post to this site
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      jenny replies to Also Burnt
      | 4 replies
      My partner and I were also brain washed into paying deposits of $2000 after being brainwashed last December. Once i got home and realised what I had signed I felt sick, wrote a strong email to the company asking for my despot back and cancelling the agreement , of course the paperworks says it can't be cancelled, but I am not paying any  more so will have to see what happens. Have had a few phone calls from some American guy in Goa, and some emails. Just had latest email stating that the court case , that I used as one of reasons for not going any further with them , was due in 2 months and if it was favourable to them then we would not have to pay rest of  money , I have no intention of paying any more,..anyone in same position and had any luck getting either deposits back, don't expect too, or at least getting them off ones back. Any ideas if they can get the money from us , even though we live in Perth?
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        jenny replies to jenny
        sorry made a typing error, meant if court case unfavourable to them wouldn't  have to pay more
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        jenny replies to jenny
        sorry made a typing error, meant if court case unfavourable to them wouldn't  have to pay more
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        Joanna replies to jenny
        | 1 reply
        Hi Jenny - we too paid $1000 deposit - I am going to the bank tomorrow to cancel the credit card - are they going to chase us for the rest - I'm abit worried - but have read lots of people have just stopped paying - I think that is the best thing to do - could you let me know how you went. I think losing a $1000 is better than some -  thanks joanna
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          Belinda replies to Joanna
          Hi Joanna, can you let me know what the outcome has been for you please.  We are feeling very stressed and unhappy about the situation and want to get it sorted before it has a serious impact on our health.  We parted with a lot more money than you did and realised almost instantly that it was a very bad decision.
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    Korban Baru
    | 2 replies
    Buat temen-temen "turis domestik" yang sudah tanda tangan perjanjian seperti saya, mohon sharing pengalamannya di http://baliroyalresort.wordpress.com. I wellcome you all at http://baliroyalresort.wordpress.com, I wrote in Bahasa Indonesia, I will be pleased if you share your information about Bali Royal Resort.

    Thanks
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      aria replies to Korban Baru
      sip gan...gw sign kontrat ttgl 21/05/2012 kemarin...meluncur ke blog
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      Inug replies to Korban Baru
      Hi there,
      Saya sudah buka web Anda dan memberi komentar berkali kali tapi no respond hingga saat ini.

      Thanks
      Inugdr@gmail.com
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    Goonja
    Hi
    Me and my husband are also victim of this company. They brainwashed us to take it for 3.5 lakhs in Indonesia on our trip at Bali in 2008 and we are Red season members. But now they have introduced a point system and on 2010 December when we visited Goa they again tried to take another 1 lakh to get us enlisted to the point system.With the point system, you can actually avail many resorts in India with companies they collaborated with but without point system you are confined to those handful of resorts they have. In Goa in 2010 they said that week system is a very bad option and we stopped selling it since 2006 . But we were given only the week-option in 2008 and they never mentioned point system. Now they do not really make new resorts that frequently and are CHEATING customers who opted for the week system. Wish we could do something to stop them from cheating people.
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    Ron
    Just paid aud1000 to this scam in Bali. Can anyone help me to get out of paying the final payment of aud14000.
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    Hitslondon
    Wow, I can't believe there are so many other people in the same situation as me. We were ripped off in 2006 in Goa and now I've got to a stage where I'm about to sign a declaration form to just write off all my losses of thousands of pounds and just to get rid of the membership as we are fed up with the whole situation.

    It was the same old story, credit card - sales pitch etc hard sale aimed at my wife, knowing that as newly recently married, I'd give in to what she wanted.

    Is there anyone out there that has been successful in getting any money back or success in their complaints? Please e-mail me at hitenshah2@hotmail.com.

    Thank you
    Hiten
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    Hitslondon
    Hello

    Please ignore my comments above as I would like to remove them.

    Dear Complaintwire, would you be able to arrange to remove my comments above as I am required to have these removed in order to cancel my membership at Royal Goan. Royal Goan have written to me to have these  removed,

    Thank you.
    Hiten

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