This Company Is A Fraud

ComplaintsTravelRoyal Holiday

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Robert Taylor
Country: United States
Royal Holiday sold us a time share on the agreement that they would purchase my existing time share. We made it perfectly clear to them that this entire deal was contingent upon the purchase of our time share and that we could not afford it otherwise. They made guarantees that our time share would be purchased within 180 days from the time we signed. We then took their advice and opened an account with RCI that would give us 6 months of no payments and no interest with the understanding that it needed to be paid in full before 6 months were up to avoid any interest. No problem we thought since we had a guarantee from them to buy our time share.

After we got home, we did not hear back from anyone for months so I called Royal Holiday numerous times only to be ignored time and time again. I then decided to call the company that was going to purchase our time share (Gene Cantrell from International Leisure Group)only to have him blow off my calls for weeks. Through persistence and numerous calls, I finally got a hold of Mr. Cantrell only to have him tell me that he was in trouble with the IRS and that he hoped to get it cleared up soon. I called a representative from Royal Holiday to let them know that this did not look like it would happen and that I wanted out of the deal. They said they would find someone else to purchase my time share and would get back to me within 24 hours. I heard nothing for weeks. I then started calling daily until Joe Harrison from Royal Holiday finally told me that Mr Cantrell and International Leisure group was back on track and would be purchasing my time share days before the 180 day deadline. When I called Mr. Cantrell to confirm, he told me that he was still trying to work it out and he was hopeful that he could make this happen. Both were lies. Neither company called back, and my 6 month deadline came and went with no returned calls. The problem was now that the loan was due and needed to be paid in full, along with interest for the past 6 months since we missed the deadline.
It is very obvious that both Royal Holiday and International Leisure group colluded to string me along so I would be forced to pay the extra charges and give me little chance of getting out of this contact.

I then started talking with Joe Harrison from Royal Holiday about terminating my contract due to the fact it was rendered void when they could not honor their guarantee to purchase my time share. Mr Harrison seemed sincere at first, but that quickly turned into the same run around that I had already grown used to. He promised calls from supervisors, promised to find a new buyer for my old time share, and then finally promised to come up with a new deal. Of course, all of this has taken 3 months and still nothing. Mr Harrison promised me a final resolve on Aug 1st only to tell me the person he needed to speak to was on vacation and he would need a few more days. After a few more days passed, he again promised to have an answer for me by Aug 8th, knowing I was leaving the country on the 10th. Today is the 22nd and still no call. I tried calling Mr Harrison today only to have the office number ring endlessly and his cell number is now disconnected.

This company is the most crooked company I have ever dealt with. If you ever go to Puerto Vallarta, stay away from the Los Tules resort where you will find the following people doing business under the name of Royal Holiday, Travel Experience, or Concord Servicing Corporation:
Enrique Soto (Sales Manager Los Tules Resort, Puerto Vallarta 011-52-322-224-8211) , Luis Machado (Salesman Los Tules Resort, Puerto Vallarta mhi1500@msn.com 011-52-322-224-8211 xt107), Rosario Alvarado (Presenter Los Tules Resort, Puerto Vallarta 011-52-322-224-8211) Joe Harrison (Royal Holiday Customer Service Manager jharrison@royal-holiday.com
011-52-322-224-8211 xt224, 011-52-322-145-2164 Cell) Rose (Royal Holiday Customer Service Center 800-961-1810 xt2607)
Gene Cantrell (International Leisure Group, 5210 E. Williams Circle Suite 700-A, Tucson AZ 85711 520-407-6359 internationalleisuregroup.com)

There are many more names to list but these were the ones that made the promises and then failed to deliver. Do your research and you will see that Royal Holiday is a not a company you can trust, nor are the properties they represent.

Comments

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    Yolanda
    Socios inconformes escriban a DonnaMVaughan aunque sea en español, esta persona dice que necesita juntar por lo menos 100 personas,les proporcionara , si ustedes se los solicita una FORMA DE REPORTE DE FRAUDE para presentar ante el senado para pedir que se cree una proteccion al consumidor contra los fraudes, engaños, abusos y demas por parte de Roya H
    Me permiti traducirlo porque quizas aveces estamos desunidos por el idioma.
    Unamonos
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    Jesus Ibarra
    Saludos Carlos;
    Yo cai en manos de estos ladrones en Julio del 2006 pero no es si no hasta ahora que me doy cuenta (pues no pude utilizar la membresia en el 2007 por que me uno de sus vendedores me dijo que el conocia a alguien que me podia vender las semanas que no utilizara y tambien resulto que me cobraron y nunca vendieron mis semanas) Para no hacerla tan larga. Quisiera saber si tuviste exito con Profeco. Yo vivo en los USA pero tengo familia en Mexico que esta dispuesta hasta a conseguirme un abogado para cancelar este contrato. Si te puedo robar unos minutos de tu tiempo para que me contestes y saber si tengo esperanza o de plano ya me olvido de mi dinero.
    Espero tu contestacion.
    PD
    Espero y que no seas como algunas personas de los defraudados que empezaron esta serie de quejas y luego cuando Royal les soluciona ya se olvidan.
    Saludos.
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    Jesus Ibarra
    Did you get any response? I am in the same boat, although is not easy to let go on 13 grand. But i just want to finish this nightmare.
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    Hector Colmenero
    I am having the same problem with these crooks wont let me cancell wont give me acess to there web-site. Credit card company says there is nothing they can do
    Colmenero Family
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    KO
    Are you still collecting info?
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    alex montero
    | 1 reply
    Saludos gente, aqui otro mas afectado por lo que en un comienzo parecia algo que realmente valia la pena. Para que contar una larga historia de quejas, ya todos sabemos, Yo me asocie a RH en Julio de 06 en Bahamas y ahora lo unico que estoy tratando es de cancelar este maldito contrato. No importa si pierdo los $20.000 dolares que pague, solo quiero salir de este dolor de cabeza. Si tu o alguien que conozcas pudiera ayudarme o como contactar a PROFECO. Yo vivo en US tambien. Espero que me respondas. Saludos.
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      Travel Time replies to alex montero
      Cancelamos su Tiempo Compartido adquirido en México y/o a un Club que lo obligue a someterse a las Leyes Mexicanas para dirimir cualquier controversia…

      En 45 días hábiles en promedio

      Honorarios: 1 Cuota de Mantenimiento

      Línea 24/7: CDMX: 5536-6997 * México: 01 555 536-6997 * World Wide: +52 555 536-6997 * WhatsApp / LINE: 55 1358-1688
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    Rolando
    Bueno parece que estos malandrines tienen una historia larga y repetida; estoy de acuerdo en que no ha habido consejos o informacion de este grupo de estafadores, como unico se les puede combatir es haciendo un grupo para tomar accion legal en contra de ellos, por lo que yo he entresacado de Google hay suficientes personas para establecer una causa de grupo en contra de ellos asi como notificale al Departamento de proteccion de consumidores en los EUA de el modo como esta gente opera para estafar a los residentes de este pais. Dejenme saber si hay algo cocinandose.Rolovicky@aol.com
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    ROLANDO
    | 1 reply
    I AM IN THE SAME SITUATION AND THIS BAND OF THIEVES USE INTIMIDATION USING CONCORD THREATENING WITH PLACING YOU ON COLLECTION IF YOU DON'T PAY. I THINK THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER PROTECTION WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO EXPOSE THE SCAM THAT ROYAL HOLIDAY IS USING TO OBTAIN PAYMENTS FROM ALL OF US. IF WE COULD GATHER A LIST OF MEMBERS THAT ARE VICTIMS OF THESE SCOUNDRELS AND INQUIRE WITH THE COSUMER PROTECCION AGENCY ABOUT STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE WE COULD BE BEST ADVICED. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE INTERESTED AND SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO PROCEED. Rolovicky@aol.com
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      Oropesai replies to ROLANDO
      I'm on board ! Lists, calls, lawyers, whatever!!!!!! Lets get together and finish with these SOB's
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    Diane Q
    Donna.....I purchased Royal Package in 2004. The 45 minute breakfast held my sister and I captive for 6 hours...!!!!  We were even escorted to the bathroom to make sure we would return to the torture room. I am currently working with the profeco office in Mexico. The next meeting is January 22, 2009.  The e-mail address is extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx. The woman in charge of this is Laura Mejia(Department of Concilliation Services for Foreign Residents). Maybe if you send her tons of complaints, the next meeting will accomplish what I have been trying to do for three years!!  Get my $30,000 back!!!!! Please send me your fraud report form too...That e-mail address is their consumer protection agency....Thanks for allowing me to share.All of us victims need to continue to expose these people any which way we can in a legal way.... Thanks Diane Q
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    Luis Gonzalez
    Hello Donna,
    I have long and sad history around this fraud here in Mexico, I have been trying to get rid of them since September 2007, I purchased my membership on September 2006 but after a year (too late) I realized about the real purposes of the company is and this turned or became in a nightmare for myself and my family, today I been doing search and I realized that we are a huge number of people victimized, and we want to recover or invested money either by selling or canceling.

    I will re-activate my case because I stopped 7 months ago, I will really appreciate any help you can provide and I will be happy to share more details upon your request at: gonzall2@it-ecs.com and please make copy at: luis1.gonzalez@ge.com
    Cordially, Luis Gonzalez
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    Diane Q
    I am currently in the process of a second meeting with the Department of Conciliation Services for Foreign Residents (QUOTE)assistanting towards solving controversies arisen between foreign or Mexican citizens living abroard that aquire any product or service from a Mexican supplier and are not satisfied with it. Their e-mail address is extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx
    They already know about the 20/20 expose and will learn of a lot more complaints via sending them complaints from every website relating to the fraud that this company has committed against consumers....Wish me luck, try them, possibly with enough complaints sent to them, they will start being more on the consumers side,   GOOD LUCK!!!!
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    Juan Jose
    Buen dia yo tambien tengo el mismo problema y voy a interponer una queja en PROFECO ESTE ES EL LINK.

    http://www.profeco.gob.mx/consumidor/denuncias1.asp
    teléfono (+52) 55 5211-1723
    e- mail: extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx


    A continuacion les muestro el extracto que viene en la pagina para apoyo a personas en el extranjero.

    Atención a residentes en el extranjero

    ¿Contrataste en la República Mexicana y resides en el extranjero?

    La Profeco, a través del Departamento de Conciliación a Residentes en el Extranjero (C.A.R.E.) protege tus derechos aún cuando vivas fuera de la República Mexicana. De tal modo que independientemente de tu nacionalidad si adquiriste algún bien o contrataste un servicio de un proveedor establecido en México y estás insatisfecho con el producto o servicio te asesoramos, y de ser el caso, facilitamos procedimientos de conciliación entre las partes de forma gratuita.

    Para iniciar un procedimiento conciliatorio, C.A.R.E. debe analizar la documentación presentada por el consumidor interesado en la que se demuestre los motivos de reclamación. Para lo cual, se necesita presentar lo siguiente:

    1. Carta explicativa de queja que contenga los siguientes datos:
    Tu nombre, domicilio, número telefónico y correo electrónico.
    Nombre y domicilio del proveedor o prestador del servicio tal como aparece en el comprobante en el recibo expedido.

    Descripción del motivo de tu reclamación, incluyendo el bien o servicio que reclamas, relatando clara y brevemente los hechos ocurridos, la fecha de compra o contratación, el precio total del bien o servicio y, si es el caso, el monto que reclamas.

    2. Completa el formato de recepción de queja
    3. Copia de tu identificación oficial y comprobante domiciliario.
    4. Copia de recibos, facturas y contratos que amparen el bien adquirido o servicio contratado.
    5. Copia de todos los documentos adicionales que puedan contribuir a la reclamación.

    La documentación debe ser enviada por correo electrónico al la dirección: extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx

    O puede enviarla por correo regular a:

    Procuraduría Federal del Consumidor
    Dirección General de Quejas y Conciliación
    Av. Jose Vasconcelos no. 208, 6º. piso
    Col. Condesa. Del. Cuauhtémoc
    C.P. 06140, México, D.F.

    Toda la información personal y confidencial recibida por la Profeco, C.A.R.E., será resguardada y protegida por nuestras leyes federales, por lo tanto no revelada a terceras personas.

    Si requieres mayor información llámanos al teléfono (+52) 55 5211-1723 , o envíanos un correo electrónico a extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx
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    JUAN JOSE
    Buen dia yo tambien tengo el mismo problema y voy a interponer una queja en PROFECO ESTE ES EL LINK.

    http://www.profeco.gob.mx/consumidor/denuncias1.asp
    teléfono             (+52) 55 5211-1723        
    e- mail: extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx


    A continuacion les muestro el extracto que viene en la pagina para apoyo a personas en el extranjero.

    Atención a residentes en el extranjero

    ¿Contrataste en la República Mexicana y resides en el extranjero?

    La Profeco, a través del Departamento de Conciliación a Residentes en el Extranjero (C.A.R.E.) protege tus derechos aún cuando vivas fuera de la República Mexicana. De tal modo que independientemente de tu nacionalidad si adquiriste algún bien o contrataste un servicio de un proveedor establecido en México y estás insatisfecho con el producto o servicio te asesoramos, y de ser el caso, facilitamos procedimientos de conciliación entre las partes de forma gratuita.

    Para iniciar un procedimiento conciliatorio, C.A.R.E. debe analizar la documentación presentada por el consumidor interesado en la que se demuestre los motivos de reclamación. Para lo cual, se necesita presentar lo siguiente:

    1. Carta explicativa de queja que contenga los siguientes datos:
    Tu nombre, domicilio, número telefónico y correo electrónico.
    Nombre y domicilio del proveedor o prestador del servicio tal como aparece en el comprobante en el recibo expedido.

    Descripción del motivo de tu reclamación, incluyendo el bien o servicio que reclamas, relatando clara y brevemente los hechos ocurridos, la fecha de compra o contratación, el precio total del bien o servicio y, si es el caso, el monto que reclamas.

    2. Completa el formato de recepción de queja
    3. Copia de tu identificación oficial y comprobante domiciliario.
    4. Copia de recibos, facturas y contratos que amparen el bien adquirido o servicio contratado.
    5. Copia de todos los documentos adicionales que puedan contribuir a la reclamación.

    La documentación debe ser enviada por correo electrónico al la dirección: extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx

    O puede enviarla por correo regular a:

    Procuraduría Federal del Consumidor
    Dirección General de Quejas y Conciliación
    Av. Jose Vasconcelos no. 208, 6º. piso
    Col. Condesa. Del. Cuauhtémoc
    C.P. 06140, México, D.F.

    Toda la información personal y confidencial recibida por la Profeco, C.A.R.E., será resguardada y protegida por nuestras leyes federales, por lo tanto no revelada a terceras personas.

    Si requieres mayor información llámanos al teléfono             (+52) 55 5211-1723        , o envíanos un correo electrónico a extranjeros@profeco.gob.mx
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    jason miller
    you guys sound so pathetic!! you guys purchase something then cant make the payments or get buyers remourse ive been a member at royal for years great company great service and is ten times better than the timeshare i owned you guys should get a life and a good job so you can make your payments
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    cajun
    agree with you. after while, these people will want the government to bail them out for something they can't pay. they can't get a life, this is their life. complain, complain!!
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    scammedbyrhc
    For those of you who were scammed by Royal Holiday, there is a web site helping people to find venues to fight RH. It's free and has around 340 members (adding new members every day) RH company is out there scamming people and no government can stop them. I've found this web to be useful and convenient to fight RH back. I do have a life, make a 6 figure salary, but I am not going to give away my hard earned money to dishonest people. Do not let low life people discourage you in your efforts to get your money back. They probably work for RH anyway. There is always a way out if you are honest. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Royal_Holiday_scam/
    Good Luck!
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    Dinethra & Dasman
    Hello, We are Torontonians that fell in to the same trap in Dominican Republic in September 2008. Please let us know if you had any luck.
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    Leticia Harrison
    Angry to say We are another victim of this ROYAL HOLIDAY CLUB, what a fraud, I just sent my complain to www.800helpfla.com, because the COlection manAger Mark Dingler is in Florida. their IS a Mexican law that you have the right to cancel any contract in 5 days. passing these days if you where lied you can  recind a contract acording to the  civil code articulo 44: ANY FRAUDULOENT SCHEME DESTINATED TO DECEIT A PERSON TO DETERMINE AND GIVE CONSENT TO HELD A LEGAL ACT.   And this is exactly what this Company does

        PLEASE help me pass this on

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