automated phone calls

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Gene
Country: United States
Got two of these calls today. .from a local number. . when i hit the redial button, got no answer but when dialing the number manually, i got the fellow who's name was on the caller id. . he had no idea what i was talking about. .and i believe him. . how can these people make it appear the call is originating from a number it is not?? i called my phone company the person i spoke to was only a coupla steps up from a complete idiot. .asked me if i wanted someone to come out and check my wires. .huh??

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    Paul
    Excellent suggestion. I will start doing this, along with other family members.
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    venting again
    A strange call this morning at eight am, waking me out of a sound sleep.  It was Capital One. They wanted to know if I had a credit card with them.   I asked it fhis was part of the Credit card service calls i was getting the past few day.   Yes and she just wanted to know if they had the right name that they had given Credit card services.   Asked me if my birth day was somewhere in the 50's and I said no.   That is the problem then----I was confused so told her I was going back to sleep goodbye.    The phone has not rang again today so maybe Capital one is one of the companies that is releasing names, in case anyone want to check with their Capital One credit card company!!!!!!!!!!!!Good luck.Have no idea where Capital got my name.
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    Cedso
    I have been getting bat least two calls a month and have tried to find out how to get rid of them. I am on a no call list but you know how good that works! So today played along with the call and pressed "1" when instructed to do so. Then a woman came on the line and asked if I wanted to reduce my interest rate. I said yes and she asked if I owed more than $4,000 to a credit card company. I said no because I pay my balance in full every month.  She said that they wouldn't to help me and would remove my number from their calling list. So let's see if it works!
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    Joe Duffer
    That doesn't work !!
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    TSpencer
    I just got one of these calls and after "click 3 to remove from this list" (which I knew wouldn't work anyway) someone answered and when I VERY politely (for a change) told her I had repeatedly asked to have the calls stopped, was told... "F* you b*tch" at which point of course I went into screaming mode. I have also been getting them on my CELL phone which pisses me off even MORE. I report every single call to the FCC, get the same form letter back that it's being investigated or whatever... blah blah blahhhh.
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    DoctorJudy
    I keep getting these calls also. It has been going on for months. I always opt to speak to someone, but they do not listen, and are very rude, then hang up. When I try calling their no. I hear that the person is not available or that the number is not in service. I tried telling them that I pay off every month and to take me off their list. They say there is no such list for them. They can call anyone who has a credit card. That can't be true! These calls always come from a different place, so there is no way to recognize the number.
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    Keith
    Each and every time you get a call from this company, do the following:

    1) Keep them on the line for as long as possible by asking inane questions. They lose money the longer they're on the line with a single caller that has no intention of using their service.

    2) Report every call to http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

    I know that it's inconvenient to fill out this form every single time, but if the FCC is flooded with complaints, they WILL do something about this.
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    Angryoldgeezer
    The oldest message I have found about this scam is from October 2007.  It has been going on too long.  It makes me suspect that these people have some political connections and are being protected by  somebody in high places.  I can't believe that the gov't is so incompetent (well I guess I can believe it) that they cannot shut these people down!  I would think that the legitimate credit card companies would have an interest in stopping them as well, since it gives credit card companies a bad name too.  If I could just figure out a way to collect all these complaints in one place I would contact my two senators and Representative.  Some aspiring congressman could make quite a name for himself if he, or she, took on these people!
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    Angryoldgeezer
    Found this story at:  Consumer Reports.org.  Sorry link will not copy from web address.



    FTC pursues telemarketers making illegal 'robocalls' to consumers on Do Not Call list
    Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM

    The Federal Trade Commission announced today it is filing legal action against several telemarketing firms for making pre-recorded sales pitches to phone numbers registered on the U.S. National Do Not Call list and disguising the Caller ID of such "robocalls" with inaccurate names.

    In papers filed with the Department of Justice today, the FTC alleges that a Californian resident, Roy M. Cox, Jr., made automated sales calls—pitching credit card debt reduction programs, extended car warranties, and home security systems—using several companies based in Argentina, Hungry Hungary, Panama and the Republic of Seychelles. The calls, made on behalf of clients, violated the U.S.'s Telemarketing Sales Rule by disguising the Caller ID of such automated sales pitches with inaccurate names such as "card services" or "private office."

    The FTC complaint also alleges that Cox knew, or "consciously avoided knowing," that these robocalls were being made to numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry. Making such automated, pre-recorded sales calls to consumers without their written consent violates another FTC rule, the agency said in its release today.

    The legal complaint against Cox and his co-defendants—Castle Rock Capital Management Inc., Castle Rock Capital Management S.A., Capital Solutions Group S.A., Transfers Argentina S.A., Public Service, and Marketing Strategy Group—were filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California on Dec. 12, 2011. That court will hear the case and determine if Cox has indeed violated the FTCs telemarketing regulations.

    FTC Charges Telemarketers with Illegal Robocalling [FTC]

    —Paul Eng
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    Angryoldgeezer
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    Angryoldgeezer
    And from the Federal Trade Commission site the following:

    http://ftc.gov/os/caselist/0923193/index.shtm

    United States of America, Plaintiff v. Roy M. Cox, Jr., individually and as an officer, director, or owner of Castle Rock Capital Management, Inc., Castle Rock Capital Management, S.A., Capital Solutions Group, S.A., Transfers Argentina, S.A., Public Service, Marketing Strategy Group, and Castle Rock Capital Management, Inc.; Castle Rock Capital Management, S.A., a foreign corporation; Capital Solutions Group, S.A., a foreign corporation; Transfers Argentina, S.A., a foreign corporation; Public Service, a foreign corporation; and Marketing Strategy Group, a foreign corporation, Defendants.
    (United States District Court for the Central District of California)

    Case No. 8:11-cv-01910-DOC-JPR
    FTC File No. 092 3193
    December 19, 2011

       Complaint for Civil Penalties, Permanent Injunction and Other Equitable Relief; Demand for Jury Trial Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 38 and Local Rule 38-1
       News Release
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    B Ludwig
    I have had calls from the Credit Card Services for years.  Three days ago, they called 5 times, while I was waiting for my Dr. to answer an emergency which put me in the hospital. I hang up on them as fast as I can and if I leave the answering machine to take their calls they click off immediately.

    To punch a number on your phone is a waste of time as it reassures them you paid attention to their call.   thank goodness other people are experiencing a similar situation. I could not understand what they are calling for. I do not use credit cards.
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    Capt Arty
    Just hang up on them! Don't give them any information!
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    Zelda
    I hit the prompt every time they call and tell them to f*ck off.  It doesn't do any good, but it makes me feel better.  They call my mother all the time and freak her out - she's 87 years old and can't understand a word they say, but they're calling about a credit card, that's all she hears.  I filed a complaint and will continue to file a complaint every time they call, they are so stupid to let the calls go to voice mail.  This needs to end, and I will do everything I can to keep complaining and try to get them all busted.
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    Mahones
    I have received these calls for a long time.  One idea, I use OOMA that allows you to block numbers.  This seems to help for a couple of days.  I did discover if you use the BLOCKED CALL MESSAGE option, THE robo dialer will immediately switch to another number.  I now use the CONTINUOUS RING option.  The robo dialer just gets a continuous ring so it does not switch numbers.  I hear nothing on my end.

    It seems there is no way to stop this.  If the FTC can not do anything, I don't believe there is anything we can do.
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    GW
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    I keep getting the same calls as everyone else on this post.  
    Today when they called, I said " you are going to have to convince me that this isn't a scam!"  
    She said "You are protected by the federal government and they monitor our calls.  I see that you pay your cards on time, but you are paying a very high interest rate and I can get that lowered for you."  
    I then asked her "If you have my information in front of you, what is my name?"  
    She wanted my personal information to verify that I was the correct person who owned the cards, before she said that she could give out ANY information.  
    I then asked for the name of the business and she said "Credit Card Services" and I asked for their direct phone number and she gave me MY phone number, preceeded by an 800 area code.  When I told her what she had done, thinking that she may have made a mistake, she said "Have a nice day." and hung up the phone.
    THIS IS DEFINATELY A SCAM.  BEWARE OF CALLERS!
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      tj replies to GW
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      She said "You are protected by the federal government and they monitor our calls.  "
      Total lies.  Great cynical response, though.  Cheat people while you tell them the government is protecting them.  Shows their total contempt for the law.

      "I see that you pay your cards on time, "
      More lies.  They don't see anything.

      If you find their inquiry on your credit reports, sue them, but more likely, it's just their script, to pretend they are "official" and can "lower your rates".

      "but you are paying a very high interest rate and I can get that lowered for you."  
      More lies.
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        DeletedMedia replies to tj
        Also, keep a eye on anyone suspicious doing a hard credit check on your report. We suspect Client Services inc's "shell company" of doing this to people that have just reported them for their  abusive calling!
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    Xlandria
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    Count me among the 'victims'.  I never bothered to to go all the way thru the call until last evening, I pressed #1, as directed, and got a pleasant enough young man who disconnected our call the second I said, "I'd like to remove...", that's far as I got. This ticked me off but I thought it was a fluke. Until this morning when I got another call, stayed on the line again and this time I got "Rachel", (she must be single, seems like she works all the time), who, in a sweet voice, dripping with honey, said, "Hi, this is Rachel, who do I have the pleasure of speaking with?" Of course I got hung up on yet again. I was about to let this [***] set the tone for my attitude today and then thought better of it. I looked up their name on "Bing" and landed here. It is comforting to know I'm not alone, but seriously, the only way we will be heard is to speak up LOUDLY and a lot. Draft a letter to anyone & everyone you can think of, start at the city level and go up to the federal level. Just fill in the appropriate name on your draft with the appropriate e-mail address and start sending. Send a copy each week to them. THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE OIL you know. If you can get an attorney, on contingency, (this means they don't get anything if you loose), who can file a Class Action lawsuit. Also, send e-mails to those on your contact list & I'll bet you'll find that most everyone has received these calls. Here's one I bet some of you have received, "PBE", they send out bogus billings for some magazine you already get. I almost got taken except that first I got a renewal bill for TV Guide, which I don't receive since I rarely watch TV. The next ones are for "Cat Fancy", which I do receive, however, I get that through " The Organization for  Drug Free America", or close to that. Post a reply to this if you'd like to band together to bring these people down.
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      tj replies to Xlandria
      File mail fraud complaints with the U.S. Postal Inspector if you receive fraudulent "renewal" bills.

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