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karey mueller
Country: United States
man called yesterday left number to call back on my machine at work.  Said he needed info about a check.  When I called back told them I had prove that this had been taken care of.  He wanted me to fax it over.  Well I am not going to fax over a bank statement.  Gentlemen already had my social security number and my email address. The number came across caller id as 719-387-0384.  Gave me number to call back as 877-787-5582 Ext/ 271 Name is Will.  Fax # is 702-463-8752.

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    Larry
    I was served cour papers today at my job! WOW!!! I wish I would have just paid the stupid bill.. Now i'm being sued for more than double with the court costs and attorney fees!!!
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    tj
    Shill post similar to "Shill Jill", and "Shill Kelly".
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    tj
    http://dockets.justia.com/search?query=Fronti ... filter=allcases

    "North American Asset Services, LLC. d/b/a Frontier Financial Group"
    "Frontier Financial Group LLC and RoVo & Associates"

    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-202-5030
    "Vegallo LLC D.B.A Frontier Financial Group
    631 North Stephanie Street Suite 419
    Henderson Nevada 89014
    ...
    Vegallo LLC D.B.A.
    Frontier Financial Group
    1291 Galleria Drive #170
    Henderson, Nevada 89014
    ..."

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search? ... n&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Numerous complaints of FDCPA violations: abusive collection, third party disclosure, etc.  Reports of attempted collection of unowed "debts".
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-202-5030/2
    "Frontier Financial Group (FFG)
    Michael Hall
    General Manager
    1291 Galleria Dr, Suite 170
    Henderson, NV 89014

    mhall@frontiernv.com
    Direct: 702-473-5316
    Toll Free: 1-866-202-5030
    Fax: 702-463-8752

    RoVo & Associates
    A Professional Law Office
    9980 W. Flamingo Road
    Las Vegas, NV 89147
    Phone: (702) 586-4444
    Fax: (702) 463-8752
    ..."

    http://www.mycollectionjobs.com/search_result ... ual%5D=mmazzara
    "North American Asset Services
    1291 Galleria dr
    , Nevada (United States)
    Phone: 7025864444 "


    http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Califo ... ead?cid=1048707

    Note numerous complaints consistent with using illegal threats to collect phony "debts".
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-866-502-2774
    CRSI
    5777 Madison Ave
    Sacramento CA 95841
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    AnnoyedOne
    | 2 replies
    Silly me! I had no idea this was a scam and I should have! I let them debit my account for $98.00 and was going to let them take the rest on my next payday! Thanks for the advice and complaints, I will be call my back to stop this debit TODAY! THESE people are CRAZY!!!!!
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      DHE replies to AnnoyedOne
      | 1 reply
      I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL THAT HV SOMETHING TO SAY.ITS NOT A FRAUD OK I PAID MY LOAN BACK.IF U KNOW U OWE IT YOU KNOW YOU TOOK OUT A PAYDAY LOAN AND DIDNT PAY IT BACK STOP BEING A DEAD BEAT N PAY YOUR BILLS.
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        mel replies to DHE
        Exactly!!The ones who are complaining are the ones who owe!!! There is no way this is a scam. They are provided debtor's information by company the payday loan was originated with! The only "scam" is the debtor that won't pay back the loan "they" were approved for and signed the legal binding contract agreeing to pay it back. If anything the debtors are "thieves " who had no intention to repay their loan
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    Jeff
    | 4 replies
    Heres a good one. How bout you people just pay your debts.
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      scott replies to Jeff
      | 3 replies
      Here's one Jeff.. Get a real job, instead of harassing people for "the man"...  Yeah, you heard me [***].
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        Not in DEBT replies to scott
        Here is something to do...Make sure that you pay your bills instead of making a perfectly good look like seem wrong. Pay your bills!!
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        mel replies to scott
        I would like to "thank" all of you debtors out there with your delinquent payment histories,and irresponsible actions on resolving your "adult" loans that you applied for...Without people like you I wouldn't have a job. Thank you. Everyday I have the pleasure of listening to,that is when you are not yelling at me for calling you..for a debt that "you" are responsible for! We didn't sign that legal binding contract that outlined the terms and conditions of your "loan"....keyword. "loan" It's called a payday loan...not a payday "here's free money with no repayment obligation'
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        mel replies to scott
        I would like to "thank" all of you debtors out there with your delinquent payment histories,and irresponsible actions on resolving your "adult" loans that you applied for...Without people like you I wouldn't have a job. Thank you. Everyday I have the pleasure of listening to,that is when you are not yelling at me for calling you..for a debt that "you" are responsible for! We didn't sign that legal binding contract that outlined the terms and conditions of your "loan"....keyword. "loan" It's called a payday loan...not a payday "here's free money with no repayment obligation'
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    tj
    Speak of the devil...
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    wall
    here's another good one Jeff..how about ffg validating
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    dezz
    they called my job..said he was an court attorney had my hr come get me,,then gave me a number to viking osme crap...scared the crap out of me i ended up giving them my depit card number they said they will deduct it from my bank account when i get paid again..im thinking i should cancell it..?? he couldnt tell me what it was for ,,just fraudulant checks and itsbeen so long i forgot..so i called the viking crap and they said i have to give them means to pay in the next 5 min or i was gonna get sued and i never recieved anything in the mail prior to this
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    tj
    | 1 reply
    Who calls themselves a "court attorney", especially if they are really an attorney?  If he is an "attorney", what state is he licensed in, and what's his Bar number?

    "had my hr come get me,,then gave me a number to viking osme crap...scared the crap out of me"

    The pattern of complaints indicates that is their goal.  Contact and disclosure of the alleged debt to third parties (relatives, employers, etc) is common with this type of scam.  If they panic you into paying immediately, you will not demand proof of the debt as allowed for by federa law (FDCPA).

    "i ended up giving them my depit card number they said they will deduct it from my bank account when i get paid again"

    Or they might even try sooner, and ring up a few NSF fees.  Or maybe take a little extra later.  

    Your card number is in the hands of who knows who, to pay for who knows what, all based on threats with no substantiation of any "debt".  Do you even know what "debt" they are supposedly demanding payment for, or if they even have a right to collect on it?  

    Have they even sent you the "g" letter required by FDCPA to be sent within 5 days of first contact, which notifies you of your right to dispute and request validation of debts?


    "he couldnt tell me what it was for ,,just fraudulant checks "

    If he doesn't know what it is for, then he also doesn't know its for "fraudulent checks", and paying him won't prevent some other thug demanding payment on the same alleged check next year, if there even is one.  

    "so i called the viking crap and they said i have to give them means to pay in the next 5 min or i was gonna get sued "

    Who is "Viking"?  Real checks have a bank name, routing and account number, a payor (allegedly you, but who knows?), a payee, a date, and an amount, all of which could be verified against records.  If this is for "fraudulent checks", then checks made out to who, for what, and when, on what account?

    Will they sue?  Who knows?  But if they sue, why are they going to so much trouble and creating so much "drama" to get paid without showing their hand (proof the debt is real)?


    "i never recieved anything in the mail prior to this"

    Nor does anyone else report receiving anything, despite federal and state law requiring notice of your dispute and validation rights.

    The whole thing smells like a scam.  

    Block your card number to protect your bank account, demand proof of the debt, as you are allowed to under federal law, and contact the Nevada Dept. of Business and Industry, Division of Financial Institutions to find out who these jokers are.  Report their deceptive attempt to evade validation through illegal threats and third party disclosure.
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      Not in Debt replies to tj
      The problem is that if you know you took out loans and never paid them back, how is the companies fault. There are laws but it doesn't prevent you from collecting on debt owed. I want you to look on what happens to people that dont pay debt. Most end up sued. More then you think. How often do you see the judgments against many for not even appearing or knowing that they were sued. The fact remains Pay your bills. Keep up with your addresses. Keep up with good numbers for contact. Its simple.
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    tj
    http://www.fid.state.nv.us/
    http://www.fid.state.nv.us/New_Sitemap.htm#Contact
    Division of Financial Institutions
    2785 E. Desert Inn Rd.
    Las Vegas, NV 89121
    Telephone: (702) 486-4120
    Fax: (702) 486-4563

    Or contact your own state Attorney General for assistance.
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    Ben
    FFG served me court papers yesterday! They are suing me because I wouldn't pay them the money I owed! I thought they were a scam because of what you rejects say about them but I guess not! Next time I'll just pay the stupid bill instead of being sued and paying $2000 extra in court fees and legal fees!
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    me
    | 1 reply
    PEOPLE..this person BEN is really JR. he is a low life sleazy debt collector who works for FFG..this IDIOT did the same thing on 800 notes... WOW I BEEN SERVED OR I BEEN SUED so 800 notes found out it was a scam they removed all his messages from the site because they came from the SAME COMPUTER..
        ....READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION....
    PUBLIC DOCUMATION...
    BBB ON FFG...
    UNAUTHORIZED DEBITS FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT...
    GO TO BBB.ORG AND READ IT YOURSELF...
    BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH THESE LOW LIFES,THERE KNOWN IN THE COLLECTION INDUUSTRY FOR STEALING PEOPLES MONIES FROM THERE BANK ACCOUNTS...
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      mel replies to me
      It is impossible for them to " steal " money from your bank account....they use a licensed and bonded payment processing company federally regulated. They debit money from your account that you provided information and gave permission for and set up postdated payments on. You do get a confirmation letter after the last payment on your account has been cleared.  You can get mailed or emailed payment receipts for each payment that is processed if you have multiple postdates setup.  Collection agents are not sleezy...What is sleezy is the person who takes out a loan and has no intention of repayment. You are the reason why we call you.
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