pay day loan that was paid off back in 2008
Complaint
karey mueller
Country: United States
man called yesterday left number to call back on my machine at work. Said he needed info about a check. When I called back told them I had prove that this had been taken care of. He wanted me to fax it over. Well I am not going to fax over a bank statement. Gentlemen already had my social security number and my email address. The number came across caller id as 719-387-0384. Gave me number to call back as 877-787-5582 Ext/ 271 Name is Will. Fax # is 702-463-8752.
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PUBLIC DOCUMENT..
FFG ON DEBTOR "ME"..
FFG SUED THIS DEBTOR FOR MORE THAN $10,000 LAST YEAR! HE WAS REFUSING TO PAY HIS DEBT SO HE WAS SUED! FFG WIPED OUT HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND THEY WILL WIPE YOURS OUT TOO IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR DEBT!! DEBTOR "ME" IS UPSET SO HE POSTS THESE COMMENTS ON SEVERAL SITES! JUST READ THE MANY OTHER POSTS OF ALL THE DEBTORS BEING SUED BY FFG!!
PAY YOUR DEBT AND DON'T END UP LIKE DEBTOR "ME" AND THE OTHER BUMS!!
Your wife is still laughing at you bum! lol..
Now who got slapped debtor?
FFG continues to fix the economy one debtor at a time!! You can thank us later!!
PUBLIC DOCUMENT...
BBB ON FFG...
UNAUTHORIZED DEBITS FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND OVERCHARGING...
GO TO BBB.ORG AND READ IT YOURSELF...
BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH THESE LOW LIFES FFG,THEY WILL WIPE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT ILLEGALLY
You don't see me playing sock puppet games.
So I guess it's YOU that got slapped :-)
Fixing things, one collector at a time
I happened upon the "ffg" threads while browsing 800notes and saw immediately that there was work to be done.
I have dealt with dozens of idiot bill collectors like you on the complaint boards. Collectors that bluff and bluster and threaten aren't going to do anything but talk. All mouth, no action.
Real collectors follow the rules, do not waste their time on complaint boards, and do no accrue page upon page of complaints like you do.
What you are attempting to do is collect noncollectable debt. There is no way that you can force anyone to pay unless they are stupid or uninformed. I'm here to make sure those things don't happen.
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Fixing things, one collector at a time
FFG continues to fix the economy one debtor at a time! You can thank us later!!
"Hit a nerve" indeed, lol
This is a telephone complaint board. People come on here to compare notes and file complaints about nuisances like YOU.
That apparently gets on YOUR last nerve, else why would you come here MAKING SHILL POSTS. (pretending to be other people that have been "sued by ffg") lol
You don't like having the light of truth shining on your little shenanigans.
You aren't going to sue anyone.
IMPORTANT INFO ON FFG...
PUBLIC DOCUMENT...
BBB ON FFG...
UNAUTHORIZED DEBITS FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND OVERCHARGING...
GO TO BBB.ORG AND READ IT YOURSELF...
BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH THESE LOW LIFES FFG,THEY WILL WIPE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT ILLEGALLY...
CLOSING DOWN ONE SLEAZY COMPANY AT A TIME...
REMEMBER YOUR DEALING WITH THIEVES...
IMPORTANT INFO ON FFG...
PUBLIC DOCUMENT...
BBB ON FFG...
UNAUTHORIZED DEBITS FROM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND OVERCHARGING...
GO TO BBB.ORG AND READ IT YOUR SELF...
BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH THESE LOW LIFES FFG,THEY WILL WIPE OUT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT ILLEGALLY...
http://www.wvago.gov/press.cfm?ID=547&fx=more
"FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Norman Googel
Phone: (800) 368-8808
Release Date: November 24, 2010
Attorney General McGraw Sues GECC and Dollar Financial for $3.9 Million for Continuing to Make Illegal Internet Payday Loans
CHARLESTON – West Virginia Attorney General Darrell McGraw launched another volley today in his office’s campaign to stop usurious Internet payday loans in West Virginia, seeking $3.9 million in penalties from Government Employees Credit Center, Inc., (GECC) and the Dollar Financial Group for making and collecting illegal payday loans in contempt of a court order.
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Last week McGraw’s office sued two other collection agencies – Ezell, Williams and Associates dba D & R Recovery, of Bolling Brook, Illinois, and owners, Charles L. Dickey and Charles L. Dickey, III, plus Frontier Financial Group of Henderson, Nevada, and owners Salvatore Mazzara, Shane F. Donofrio, and Paula Englebrecht – for collecting Internet payday loans without a license and for ignoring the attorney general’s investigative subpoena. Both companies collected Internet payday loans originated by a now-defunct company, Money and More, that signed a settlement agreement on April 17, 2009, with the Attorney General agreeing to void all of its loans.
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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700084082/ ... ed-to-Utah.html
"Suspect in Ponzi scheme returned to Utah
Published: Saturday, Nov. 20, 2010 9:17 p.m. MST By Paul Koepp, Deseret News
SPANISH FORK — The alleged leader of a huge Ponzi scheme that targeted Utah County has been arrested and brought to Utah to face felony fraud charges.
Gale Robinson, 63, formerly of San Jacinto, Calif., was arrested on a fugitive warrant Oct. 8 in Tavares, Fla. She was extradited to Utah and booked Oct. 27 into the Utah County Jail, where she is being held on $10,000 bail.
Robinson was charged in May with 21 felonies, including securities fraud, money laundering and pattern of unlawful activity, for allegedly running an illegal investment arm of her California-based payday lending company, Money & More.
Utah County investigators obtained a warrant for her arrest in June after speaking with a former Money & More employee. The employee told the Deseret News that Robinson had spoken of her intention to flee California to avoid arrest. She previously lived in Florida for many years.
Prosecutors say Robinson hatched the scheme in June 2007 with three Utah men, Larry Bosh, Shawn Benson and Michael Smith, who have also been charged in 4th District Court. They allegedly guaranteed huge returns with little risk , backed by the accounts receivable of Money & More.
When the company stopped paying out in 2008 and investors complained, the Utah County Attorney's Office started an investigation.
According to an affidavit requesting the warrant, two attorneys met separately with Robinson, Bosh and their associates and warned them they were violating securities laws. Bosh previously told the Deseret News that attorneys advised him the investment scheme was a "gray area."
Investigators initially said hundreds of investors, mostly from Utah County, lost $59 million. The affidavit states the group solicited over $37 million. The lead prosecutor on the case, Curtis Larson, did return a phone call Tuesday.
Robinson used more than $1.5 million of investor money to buy a home in San Jacinto, Calif., according to the affidavit. Attorneys representing roughly 330 of the investors say their clients lost $47 million, much of that evaporating in bad loans.
They reached a $24 million settlement with Money & More but expect their clients to see only a fraction of that. The attorneys say that settlement would return some assets more quickly and with less depreciation than through the restitution that would follow criminal convictions. Prosecutors, however, believe some of the investors may have also participated in the scheme.
The settlement has been held up by a restraining order freezing assets of Robinson and her associates. An appeal questioning whether that order is based on an unconstitutional state law is pending before the Utah Supreme Court.
Robinson's attorney declined to comment on the case. Her next court appearance is scheduled for Jan. 10.
Also charged in the case are Daniel Maynard, of Sandy, and Timothy Provost, of Alpine, described by prosecutors as the next level down in the tree of investors.
Another alleged middleman, David Poulsen, of Salem, pleaded guilty in May to two counts of participating in a pyramid scheme, a class B misdemeanor. He was ordered to pay a $555 fine and do 60 hours of community service.
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http://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/cmg_group.html
CMG Group is reported to be connected to Westbury Ventures.
Desist and Refrain Order against Broadmore Ventures, The Loan Shop, Express Cash, Xpress Cash, Westbury Ventures, Plaza Processing, ASAP, PD6 Ventures, DMS Marketing, LTS Management, located at 2756 N. Green Valley, Parkway, Suite 871, Henderson, Nevada 89014, and at 10120 S. Eastern Avenue, Suite 200, Henderson, Nevada 89052.
Hey, FFG is located in Henderson NV....
And here is the outline of the same scam allegedly run by CMG Group, in the Order from the California Dept. of Corporations. Apparently all these connected "payday lenders" ran afoul of California's payday lending laws.
http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/2007/broadmore.pdf
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4. A deferred deposit transaction is a written transaction whereby one person gives funds to another person upon receipt of a personal check and it is agreed that the personal check shall not be deposited until a later date. These loans are sometimes referred to as “payday advances” or “payday loans.”
5. California consumers received unsolicited advertisements from Broadmore offering
potential customers funds of approximately $300 until their next payday.
6. Broadmore would arrange for an electronic deposit of funds to the consumer’s
respective bank account and Broadmore had access to withdraw the $300 plus their fee on the due date of the deferred deposit transaction.
7. However, when the day due on the deferred deposit transaction came due Broadmore
would not withdraw the agreed upon repayment from the consumer’s bank account, even though adequate funds were available to do so. Instead Broadmore would withdraw $90, which they stated consisted of their $45 fee and a $45 interest change. Broadmore would make successive withdrawals of $90 from the consumer’s account. In some cases Broadmore would take $90 twice in the same day from customers. One customer had 16 withdrawals made from his bank account for a total of $1,440 during a three-month period. A customer who obtained two $300 payday loans from Broadmore repaid them a total of $2,040. It was necessary for Broadmore’s customers to close their bank account to prevent repeat unauthorized withdrawals. Broadmore would not respond to consumer complaints and continued to overcharge them. Broadmore’s representatives including, but not limited to, Kiria Cummings, Michelle Hargrove, William Mashburn, Tom Rothrock, William Schlappi, would contact consumers or their employers, impose deadlines for payment via Money Gram or Automatic Clearing House (ACH) and threaten consumers with legal action.
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