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john pohlmeyer
Country: United States
recording 3 or 4 times a day  im on no calll list

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    Nate
    | 1 reply
    Cochisejustice,

    Speaking for my own investigation into this. I have found there to be a lot of innocent companies/people targeted completely by accident. Please verify where you got that info from?
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    Stop It NOW!
    This started when I applied for a Best Buy credit card ((DENIED))

    Now I get phone calls & CC offers and I never gave them my new phone number !!!

    5AM - 7PM CALLS WTF! Just - STOP
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    Nate
    | 1 reply
    cochisejustice,

    Well, I can tell you several things that seem to be different between cardholder services and Graven. That is, cardholder services fakes their caller id causing more people harassment 2x. This is because people call back thinking their the company that called. Also, cardholder services absolutely refuses to take us off the list, this Graven company, at least appears to actually take you off the list.  Sounds to me like a much more legit telemarketing company, although still a telemarketer.

    Few more questions for you if you don't mind.

    Did you start to get calls from this graven company and cardholder services around the same time? Also, does Gravin use "robo calling", or do they actually have a live person on the other line? The former is illegal, while the later is not.  IF they do robocall, is the message the same, where it says to "press 1 to talk to a person"?

    I personally do not see a connection, based on what I read, but I can't rule it out for sure yet.
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      cochisejustice replies to Nate
      Thank you so much for the valuable info!

      We actually have no record of Graven Austin & Drake calling us, and leave it alone based on what you have given. Although "cardholder services" have reached about 150 documented, many recorded, abusive, & threatening robo-calls, over the last two years.

      We are compiling a list of commonly reported "cardholder services" also from here on complaintwire, and want to include as many "Rachel-robo-call" scammers as possible.
      We have evidence to present to a U.S. JUDGE against:

      Client Services Inc, MO, KS, TX, FL, NY, 636-947-2321, 636-255-3120, 636-255-3214, 800-521-3867, 800-521-3236, 877-655-3439, 903-337-2000, 903-416-6900, 903-337-0770, 407-660-7878, 212-532-1815. Continues to robo-call

      Concord Financial Advisors LLC, AZ, NV, 888-583-1956, 800-525-2956, 602-620-1460, 480-703-5818, 480-981-0138. Continues to robo-call

      Associated Accounting Specialists Inc, FL, 877-982-7526. Continues to robo-call

      (We have a recorded "rep" from 1st U.S.A. Card Services, Inc DE, 877-999-3872, 888-269-8690 - They may or may not have stopped calling, as per our demand.)

      The following have also been reported by American Consumers that have either "fell for it" or got through to the actual "companies" running this scam. We will continue to report them. This is a Consumer issue, and online testimony is valid.

      American Debt Negotiators LLC, FL, 561-483-7337.

      FIA Card Services/Bank of America DE, TX, 800-655-1491

      We have records, (some also by written letter) of the following "Debt Collectors" and Telescummers repeatedly calling (some robo, some not) for unknown reasons, and the same unknown person:

      Enhanced Recovery Company
      Assurance Collections, LLC
      American Diabetes (scammers)Assistance, LLC- no connection to American Diebetic Assoctiation.
      Client Services Inc.

      Hope this info helps.  The Jan/Feb report is below.
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    cochisejustice
    | 1 reply
    Jan/Feb report: A comment on NBC reports an FCC crackdown on robo-call telemarketing.

        Yes, there is a consumer debt crisis!
    But we are not among the “deadbeats” as reason proclaimed by Client Services employees.    

        Now pay close attention, it right outside your door.
    Have you not heard this hundreds and hundreds of times?!?
    “Hello, This is Rachel at cardholder services calling in reference to your current credit card account”.
    “…lowering your interest rate to as little as 6.9%.”
    Sounds like “telemarketing”, but is it really something more sinister?

        Missouri based “company” Client Services Inc (CSI) became a suspect in the “Hello, This is Rachel at cardholder services..”  scam August of 2011.
    They claim they are “only a third party debt collector”.
    According to their past online advertising, what they were/are selling, reselling, trading is not Consumer friendly, to say the least.

        Inquiries were made into CSI’s New York “affiliate foreign for profit company” Financial Services Solutions LLC (FSS).

        Meanwhile American Diabetic Assistance LLC (ADA LLC)- no connection with American Diabetes Association, begins an aggressive telemarketing scheme against our State. Evidence suggests ADA LLC got their “call center services” from  CSI, whom also has hidden “call center services” in Florida, Kansas, and another “shell company” - Red Leaf Capital in Texas.

        All three, CSI, FSS & ADA LLC  were requested their Do Not Call Policies. Nothing has ever been received. It’s simply not enforced by the FTC under TCPA laws.
    BAM! Suddenly FSS goes “Inactive-Surrender of authority”, and the website mysteriously disappears!
    And now they sell/sold different stuff according to Manta online business search.
    Then ADA LLC’s “affiliate foreign for profit”- Pgkn Inc. suddenly shuts  down!!  
    So what’s going on here?! Could it be illegal?!

       Meanwhile the “Rachel robo-calls” are following patterns of stopping for a while, usually after contacting the Missouri AG. The office even assures specific “help” regarding “Rachel”.  The robo-calls slightly begin to change. The outsourced “rep” becomes domestic “live operators”. And ”Rachel” has recently added “have a great day” to the ending.

    “Telemarketing”?- or abusing loopholes & gray areas of debt collecting laws to commit all kinds of fraud, and get around FTC DNC laws.

         Another perfect example-
    There is good cause to believe that CSI re-sold “Rachel” to Arizona based Ambrosia Web Design’s (AWD) collection of “affiliate companies”.
    Even after reported as using several alias names- “Leroy Castine, Chris Ambrosia, Lee Cestine”, AWD continues to operate and “Rachel-robo-call“.
    Just take a look at the available online AZ Sec of State scanned documents. Forms are filled out in the same handwriting!
    “Ambrosia” must have forgotten how he signed AFB LLC- “Leroy Castine”,  and Concord Financial Assistance LLC- Lee Cestine”.
    Signatures are the same!!
    AWD’s “Chris Ambrosia” is signed a little different, but the handwriting is the same!!
    Isn’t that a Felony FRAUD?!?   It certainly is from the American Consumer standpoint!! Yet the robo-calls continue……
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      cochisejustice replies to cochisejustice
      Correction- in the last paragraph, Thats Concord Financial Advisors, LLC,
      NOT Concord Financial Assistance.
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    Robert
    | 1 reply
    I got called today and the caller hung up on me when I told them that this was the 3rd time I have asked them to put me on a Do Not Call list.
    1/10 7PM     (407)702-0530
    Feb ??          (214)283-1316
    3/16 2:20PM (503)457-1829
    I signed up for DoNotCall.gov on 8/31/2010 and again in January.
    I will follow up with a call to the FTC  (877)382-4357
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      cochisejustice replies to Robert
      It's useful to keep a log of calls, and other events,
      But always remember that the Caller ID #s that you may see are most likley highjacked, or "joe jobbed" sometimes from innocent people.
      We try as much a possible to post the actual "company" numbers, especially the "CEO" if they have phone number(s) listed at on their Sec of State documents . .lol, bet they really hate that!!!
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    stop this
    | 3 replies
    There is a two facebook groups, and one of the facebook groups seems to have came across this same information about ambrosia web design. One person who called them claims that they even admitted to being linked to cardholder services somehow but then backed away when questioned further.

    Others have identified  two or more Florida financial companies who actually process the payments. The bulk of the scam seems to be ran out of FL but, not entirely. Others still have figured out that the employees are commission based, with a income of around 100 dollars.

    Info is so spread out, that I suggest we keep unifying in our cause/sharing info between the facebook groups  that have many more people just as frustrated as here. Please share research you have done to the facebook groups too, so more people can see it, more eyes means someone will find new things from what you have done.
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      TPV replies to stop this
      Thanks for the info on facebook.

      The deal over here is, many of the folks that are being harrassed and abused by this crime, are elderly and don't relate to the internet so much.
      We have accumulated info from Retired Folkes, Veterans, Ex-Law Enforcement, etc, and are gaining assistance from younger people who know how to do more online stuff. Hopefully, other online sources can be used, such as facebook, youtube. The "Twitter" attempt turned out to be a disaster.

      “cardholder services” on youtube-        http://youtu.be/gMGi3c0wXXc

      "Cardholder Services Tape 2" coming soon!
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      cochisejustice replies to stop this
      "stop this"  if you are there? We have more on AWD.
      You could put it on facebook.

      Sometime around around the first of the year AWD's "affiliate for profit" AFB, LLC, 3021 S Woodruff, Mesa, AZ 85212, 800-525-2956, 602-620-1460, website went down.
      It may have been "affiliate" that had an address of just a vacant dirt lot!!
      The AZ Sec of State has the "Corporate Life Period" as "PERPETUAL!
      Man, we certainly hope not!!! Shut them all down, and put them in jail, for our sake!!
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      TPV replies to stop this
      Hello, "stop this"
      if you are still there-
      Do you have any links to these two facebook groups?
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    Nate
    | 1 reply
    Do we have confirmation this is mostly old people being targeting, like, what I am asking, is do we have any way of confirming, that they have some list of retirement homes that they particularly target? I understand, that is their target scam market, but, we are all getting these calls, and they refuse to take young and old off the list, harass us, and it never ends.

    This ambrosa web design connection, should be at least looked into as the makers of virtualcollector.net scam payment system.   cardholder.virtualcollector.net is their scam website. The fact this has still not been shut down, is what is discouraging. If you look at page 10, notice that their doing a H&R block scam to, deceptively as "HR Block" not H&R block, you can find more info on this by googleing for a h&r block scam. All these leads needs to be thoroughly investigated/confirmed with resources I don't have.. Would be nice if someone from law enforcement/ftc was actually looking at this board.

    Take care
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      cochisejustice replies to Nate
      I agree.
      A retired law enforcment friend has advice, but all these "foreign for profit corporations" are out of most jurisdictions. We finally figured out thats where the U.S. Secret Service fits in all of this.(foreign inc or llc).
      I did some hunting on "virtualcollector. Have you been able to find a "corporation, or LLC"business  address? I'd like to see their Sec of State Documents.
      Seems like they are doing everything they can to stay hidden in the shadows.

      I also came across another suspicious idiot "business owner" talking smack to a concerned Consumer. And their being sued by the FTC!!
      So, since they like to talk crap on the phone and here, we will talk to them so in their own language!!

      Check it out, I'ts "P Turpel" in about the middle of the thread.

      https://complaintwire.org/complaint/kq4BAAAAAAA/credit-card-services-rachel/2
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    arg
    There is lots of the same complaints. googling for the phone numbers that called you every time. I dont have time to sift though nearly all of it though.
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    Nate
    The site registar of virtualcollector.net is "Igor Cadez",  also seems to be the owner of cadez.net, and several other websites. You can usually find this info on websites by doing a google search for a website. I am pretty sure this guy is connected for sure.

    REGISTRANT CONTACT INFO
    Igor Cadez
    49 Tulip Place
    Aliso Viejo
    CA
    92656
    US
    Phone: +1.9494251132
    Email Address: domains@49tulip.com

    He seems to reported as a fake bill collector here as well: Ironically, my story fits with one guys who says he had his ID theft occur!  I got some fake bill collector several months ago to, but since I don't owe debt, I knew it was fake.

    https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/8778222677

    I found a website that listed these sites as "related" I got no idea just how if/at all their actually related FYI.

    1.    ncsplus.com    Collection Agency, Collection Services, Collections, Contact, National    
    United States
    2.    cbcollections.com    Collection Agency, Collection Services, Collections    
    United States
    3.    summitcollects.com    Collection Agency, Collection Services, Collections    
    United States
    4.    championsway.com    Collections, Financial services, Marketing    
    United States
    5.    jmfinancial.in    Finance, Financial group, Financial services    
    India
    6.    vericrestfinancial.com    Complaints, Finance, Financial services    
    United States
    7.    iqor.com    Collection Agency, Collections    
    United States
    8.    manulifebank.ca    Financial group, Financial services    
    Canada
    9.    cmai.in    Marketing, National    
    United States
    10.    pressesprecher.com    Financial services, Marketing
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    Nate
    Mr Cadez on virtualcollector.net seems to have a list of around 50 'customers' for which cardholder services is only one of the 50. Mr Cadez, in addition to being a fake bill collector/scammer, is himself most likely a computer programmer (or someone with tech expertise) in CA and a billing collection backround.

    Connecting the dots between them all is going to be tough.   This is way to overwhelming without help/official investigation!
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    Nate
    | 1 reply
    Take the following example of how these scampers are working:

    "National Credit Audit Corporation."

    nrsolutions.virtualcollector.net on the contact page, the webiste has

        
    Contact Information
    Address
    NCAC
    P.O. Box 515489
    Dallas, TX 75251
    Phone
    Tel: (800) 779-4894
    Fax: (866) 769-3255
    Web
    support@payncac.com
    www.payncac.com

    But, just this one company is hidden behind a deceptive/fake registration name/address, their not in TX AT ALL. Because when you trace back payncac.com's website registration info, it reveals something completely different:

    When you trace back the domain payncac, you realize

    LexisNexis Risk Solutions FL Inc
      6601 Park of Commerce Blvd
      Boca Raton, FL 33487
      US

      Domain Name: PAYNCAC.COM

      Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
         LexisNexis Risk Solutions FL Inc                
         6601 Park of Commerce Blvd
         Boca Raton, FL 33487
         US
         561-999-4400 fax: 320 203 6701

    So step 3 is finding the info on the company, which is yet another FL financial company..:

    LEXISNEXIS RISK SOLUTIONS FL INC.
    Filing Information
    Document Number    F06000006281
    FEI/EIN Number    411815880
    Date Filed    10/02/2006
    State    MN
    Status    ACTIVE
    Last Event    NAME CHANGE AMENDMENT
    Event Date Filed    01/04/2010
    Event Effective Date    NONE
    Principal Address
    1000 ALDERMAN DR.
    ALPHARETTA GA 30005
    Changed 02/15/2010
    Mailing Address
    255 WASHINGTON STREET
    SUITE 350
    NEWTON MA 02458-1637
    Changed 01/05/2012
    Registered Agent Name & Address
    CT CORPORATION SYSTEM
    1200 SOUTH PINE ISLAND ROAD
    PLANTATION FL 33324 US
    Officer/Director Detail
    Name & Address
    Title VP
    SIMONTON, RENEE L
    1105 NORTH MARKET STREET
    WILMINGTON DE 19801
    Title DP
    PECK, JAMES M CEO
    1000 ALDERMAN DRIVE
    ALPHARETTA GA 30005
    Title DS
    SIDEWATER, MEREDITH
    1000 ALDERMAN DRIVE
    ALPHARETTA GA 30005
    Title DVP
    HORBACZEWSKI, HENRY
    125 PARK AVE, 23 FLOOR
    NEW YORK NY 10017
    Title DVT
    FOGARTY, KENNETH E
    2 NEWTON PLACE, SUITE 350
    NEWTON MA 02458

    I do not know if this company is guilty of anything, but they sure make it hard to track that down, and the names of the company is very much hidden. This needs to be done for all the 50 virtualcollector sites, in my opinion, in addition to cardholder services.
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      Dez replies to Nate
      Received a letter from this NCAC company today.  They appear to have my past address histories & are trying to bill me for a "cleaning charge" from an apartment complex which now has new owners & no longer has my info apparently so it makes it hard to dispute. Except for the fact that I received a check returning my security deposit about 4 months after moving out of this apartment.  They certainly would not have sent me a check returning all of my money if there were charges!

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