AT&T YellowPages.com does what they want

Complaint

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James
Country: United States
Hello,

A warning for anyone that gets a telemarketing call from AT&T YellowPages.com. My wife and I own a small mom and popbusiness and my wife received a call and listened to the person go through their services, but when he gave my wife the pricing she told him that she would speak with me and he'd contact her the next day. When the next day came she told him no not now.

They proceeded to bill us and said that from part of the conversation they consider it an ok for the expensive but totally useless service. A billion dollar company screwing over a mom and pop. Know they are trying to sue us for failing to make any payments in a service which we did not want.

I guess billion dollar companies and their lawyers think it's ok to screw mom and pop stores and my guess is that the idiotic court system will probably side with them since the supposedly have a voice recording, but coincidently without the end section nor the day after part just cut down to what the contracted telemarketer (who no longer with them for some undisclosed reason) are using as the ok. I guess that since they can no loger use their marketing tactic on people now they have started on mom and pop's.

Jim Tabele

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    t clark
    | 1 reply
    please contact me..I am trying to pusue a class action suit against att yellow pages.
    tdwclark@gmail.com
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      Jonathan Avalos replies to t clark
      I have been scammed by yp and owe 2000 dollars,  I will not pay as my advertising was published in dallas, tx and I live in Houston tx, also my website didnt have anything close to the performance I was supposed to receive
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    cvkathy
    Last year I paid for my Yellow Pages ad even though I did not want it. They said that it was an automatic renewal. I told them that I did NOT want automatic renewal and that it seemed very illegal for them to do that. The person I talked with said they would remove it. Now wasn't I surprised when my ad appeared in this year's Yellow Pages.

    I called to complain and the 'Customer Rep' told me that unless I had talked to someone in 'her' department what I was told was not legitimate. She then told me that in order for me to cancel my Yellow Page ad I had to send a CERTIFIED LETTER(!!) with very precise information. However, she said I still needed to pay for this year's ad.

    I asked her to provide verifiable proof that I was ever informed that I needed to send a certified letter to cancel my ad. She said that there was information on the ATT webpage stating that. I pointed out that that isn’t legal. Was I supposed to intuit that my personal contract information was on a website? Did ATT just assume that everyone has computer access?

    She also stated that I had agreed to my ad through recorded telephone verification with ATT. I asked her why ATT could verify something over the phone and could not. She didn’t have an answer.

    Of course, she could not ‘locate’ the recorded phone conversation that I had last year.  I asked to speak to her supervisor. She said ‘they don’t do that anymore. Each customer representative is trained to take care of anything that comes up.’ This is an interesting new ploy. If someone is not having a satisfactory conversation with a representative that’s just tough. There’s no recourse.

    I asked if ATT was going to reimburse me for the cost of sending a ‘certified letter of cancelation.’ She said they would not.

    My question is – has anyone started a class action suit against these illegal practices? If not, it’s time that we do.
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    woods plumbing
    i'm going through the same thing. they said they would test the service to ensure it works and there wouldn't be a billing for that. instead, i get a bill $135.00. i called them back and they said they would take care of it. meanwhile, i am getting larger phone bills and the sales rep dissappeared so now i've been dealing with cust svc. i sent a letter, within 2 weeks, fax'd and mailed, to cancel and they can't find it. i'm a small plumbing company in los angeles and thought it was only me being taken advantage of. every time my phone rings with an unidentifed number i let it go to voicemail supposedly there isn't a cost if it isn't answered by me physically.
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    Att sale Rep, Over Exagerated
    Well, like everybody here I have a story to tell.  I was called back in mid October of 2011 by a sales rep named J.  I will not use full names but will tell you I was told the following.

    1) Over 600 + people per month in my area were looking for my services.
    2) I would also be placed in over 150 internet directories
    3) The program works and I would have my listing in the top three.  The highest program you can get.  
    4) These 600 + are not doing searches on YP.com because they are browsing.  They are on there to do business.  

    I said wouldn't Google be a better place for me to put my hard earned money.

    Response: Google is for people looking for and browsing for stuff.  Not for people ready to BUY a Service or DO Business.

    Had over 6 phone conversations with sales person.  They answered all calls back and the followup was amazing.  

    Sales rep even went over numbers on the phone with me and stated that I should easily get 8-10 new customers per month with this ad program.  I should get at least 20+ calls per month with this ad program.

    Now, After making the order I expected to get something from ATT like a contract, terms, cancellation period information.  

    I then after placing ad spoke to my uncle who also had an ad with ATT the year before.  He stated he will not renew the ad that he did not make any money from the ad. He stated he got no business from it and will not use YP.com again.  

    I called my sales rep to cancel my program.  This was on the 6th day.  No return call.  I then called again.  No return call.  I then on the 10th day at 8:05 AM Emailed the Rep to cancel.  I also asked for a return call.  I received an email back on the 12th stating it was too late to cancel and I was under contract.  I never received this contract with any cancellation details in a timely manner. As a matter of fact, I never received anything stating the cancellation period.   I tried to cancel but the rep would not call me back.  I did not have any information on who to call, where to call.  Only his number and his managers number.  I left 4 messages with the manager and still over 30 day's later have not had a single call back from any of my messages.  My funds were pulled from my bank account over 20 day's after the ad was placed.  Over 14 day's after I called asking to cancel.  Over 10 day's after I emailed due to the NO Response to calls.  Nothing was live, Nothing was Done.  No AD other than the basic free one I had built myself on the ATT YP.com site.  

    I received my contract on November 20th in the mail.  It was dated November 17th.  More than 2 weeks after the cancellation period ended.

    I have emails from the REP that clearly state that some ads will not work.  Why does ATT sale these ads that do not work?  He states because they are placed too low...  Mine is the highest under one category and the very next level under another category, Oh yea, the 600+ people looking for my services was only for ONE category.  My other category has literally Thousands every month looking for that service.  But Not 1 Phone call.

    I have been on the phone now numerous times with customer support trying to get this resolved but since I'm under contract they will not cancel.  

    The sales rep did however finally email me back and stated the ad will work and that I should give it at least TWO months to work...  Why two months?  I'm already at the top.  Why would two months make a difference when it's listed at the top Now and has been?

    That was 16 day's ago.  Still, with my 1st place ad in my category, and supposedly over 600+ people searching for this service per month I have not received a single phone call.  Not a ONE call.  I have received 4 calls in the last two weeks for this service that att stated over 600 per month were looking for and all four found me on Google Places.  So, he lied about Google, Lied about the number of business I'd get, Lied about basically everything. I do not see these 150+ directories He stated I'd be placed in.  

    ATT took my money.  The REP has lied to me about its true value, expected results but yet they lock you up into a contract that they do not have to show performance for.  They use numbers as part of their sales practices that are not real numbers.  I have a link from my business website to my yp.com ad.  I visit the site every other day to figure out why it's not working.  They built the ad, not me.  I think these numbers, 600+ are mainly made up of other people looking at their own ads or their competitions ads.  

    Good luck if you deal with this company but they have no RATING Stars on their website so potential customers can see how they really treat their CONTRACTED Clients.
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    Yooper
    After my disappointing experience with ATT Ad Solutions Contract issues, I decided to go this route.

    https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

    Federal Trade Commission.  Start here people.  There is no bigger free hand that will help you other than the Feds.  These are the ears that need to hear our voices.  Fill out the form and pray for the rest.  Hopefully enough people will start flooding their database with ATT as a headline and that will get their attention.
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    Yooper
    After some researching it looks like most people are having success fighting ATT with the Bureau of Better Business.  Filing a complaint is free and easy and most cases are resolved withing 30 days.  It seems like this is the bad press that Att will respond to.  The options for Att are huge once you do the search.  I took the area code from my sales person (314) Then did a Att search in the St. Louis, Missouri area.  Then I clicked on Att advertising our of St. Louis and filled the complaint.  We'll see how this one comes out.  Here is a link for their website.

    https://www.bbb.org/
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    Yooper
    Well at the very least they let me out of my contract.  All within one weeks time of filling out the two earlier forms mentioned above.
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    kevinpager
    High pressure salesman got me to "sign up". After getting no results I cancelled the service after about six months. Two years later they are still charging my VISA card. Now they say can't cancel unless it's in writing.

    These people are unethical crooks and scammers.
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    Vonsharon
    They omit portions of their calls. When i agreed to "try it for two or three months" and repeated this several times in the recorded phone conversation, this conveniently got deleted from the recording. They misrepresented themselves and stole money from me. I never could get my representative to answer or call me back or e-mail me/ she knows they did. Stay away from them, they are crooks.
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    Vonsharon
    This is not about a "shift in the market". this is about theft. They continued to deduct arbitrary amounts of money from my bank account beyond what I agreed to.  This is called cramming and hurts small business. It is unethical.
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    Chris Wilborn
    Every year : you are right. But this year I was waiting for the usual contact from a salesman and it never came.
    Business has been bad and NO calls from the yellow pages , so I was going to cancel . I knew the contract ended at the end of January, so I called to cancel and "Oh didn't you know, that is an 'automatic renewal'. You are 'automatically signed up' till 2013 !" ALSO, they extended the contract 2 more months AND increased the monthly amount !
    The only time I have heard of "automatic renewals" is with credit card scams. I do believe that this is a scam ! At least with paying by credit card, I could hope for some help from a BIG company ! This time I'm (we) are on our own.
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    Seriously?
    Now if that doesn't sound like a scam.
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    Michael from St. Louis
    | 2 replies
    I have a business and have advertised in the Yellow Pages for decades.  A couple years ago I decided to stop advertising in the Yellow Pages.  For the past year I'm absolutely sure that I did not agree to any advertising.

    Today I got a bill for $1,140 ($95 per month).  I called and told 'Brian' that I did not agree to any advertising.  He told me that when the monthly charge is less than $100, no sales representative will call.  THE CONTRACT RENEWS ITSELF AUTOMATICALLY.  It becomes the advertiser's responsibility to send a registered letter to a certain address in order to quit.  As a courtesy, Brian offered to cut the bill in half ($47.50 per month).  He warned me this was a one-time offer.

    What should I do?
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      AT&T ex sales rep replies to Michael from St. Louis
      I worked for AT&T Riverside Call Center. The reson I left was because the people did not care about what they where selling and who it hurt. They are selfish people that only care about money and sex. Everett Lathen King Selfish would walk around groping the girls a married man. So don't look for help from this company.
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      David replies to Michael from St. Louis
      Hey Guys,

      This is the attorney you can get in touch with who’s filing the class action against yellow pages.  I hope this helps, (I know I might be a day late and a dollar short, but I thought I’d get the word out if it hadn’t been done already)

      paulperkins@lynchlawyers.com

      Good Luck!


      David Anderson
      Chief Web Consultant
      DavidWA@CMSexpress.com
      314-713-1253
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    David Anderson
    STOP GETTING SCREWED BY AT&T !!!

    If you need a quality website for a one time fee that will generate results, (No Contracts) check us out at CMS Express and then call myself, David Anderson @ 314-713-1253

    Look forward to hearing from you.

    David Anderson
    CMS Express
    St.Louis, MO
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    harry tape
    yellow pages are idiots candle  and see what you get
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    Never Again!
    I am a former employee of At&t yellow pages & yellowpages.com Now known as YP & YP.com.  The practices this company "Teaches" it's employees are sickening! They literally Brain wash employees, into hinking the sales tacktics are legal and yet best intrest for the company! NOT the client!! I resigned after fighting back and forth with upper Mgt about the unethical practices being forced upon me. They say ALL programs have to have YP.com on themwhich is not true. They claim to give you a "Discount if you go into Print and Internet which also is another lie. Print stay the same and internet is the only item discounted. DONT let them raise your price for staying the same, they will keep it the same if you say you will cancel, they are trained to increase all accounts 15-30% each year. All you need is your name in the book internet listing are free. Dont waste money on yp.com. it does not work and they laugh at you when your off the phone and get a high 5 for stealing your money!!! Please forgive me.

    Thanks
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    Phil
    ATT advertising Solutions, has by far been the worst company I have ever dealt with.
    These people are all incompetent to my needs and I was transferred to different people/departments, just to be told yea we will have someone contact you after 48 business hours. I am tired of hearing that.
    I am thankful that my contract is ending in July 2013. However I have had issues from October of 2012 and still nothing has been done. I have gotten as high as the director and even his poor lack of communication proved just because you have the title Director in your position does not mean you will fix what harm has been done. I asked please can you kindly downgrade me or put me on a lower plan. Since the price of $115.00 was nearly too much for what I was being offered. I was told  " well Phil we can make you a logo you". Like WTF I am a graphic designer I can make my own logo. This is the worst experience ever and is there anything that anybody knows what to do to fight against these crooks, would be greatly appreciated.
    Lastly I closed my bank account and told this air head rep change my account and what do you know they deducted money from my closed checking account and put it into a negative balance now I have to pay that just to bring it back to $0.00 again. These fools kept beating around the bush until they finally got it right and added the correct card!!

    I could go on and on but you get the idea. Horrible service!!

    DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ATT  ADVERTISING SOLUTIONS!!! BEWARE

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