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Complaint

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Anne Offor
Country: Australia
Will make this short and sweet, I hope.
Bought a timeshre in 2006, havent been able to use it as husband works away. We were shown a resort we were told we could use as we didnt like the one we were buying into. So.... we try and use it two years later, and find out that they want us to pay $410 a  night per person ontop of the $10,000USD we have paid to stay anywhere. They dispute they showed us this resort, they dispute they didnt tell us we had to pay more once they admitted we were shown the resort. And so the saga goes on. We have been told we can have 2 free weeks there, which will come to the equivalent of the price we paid originally. Why would we want to do that, it doesnt solve the problem of having to pay more if we want a holiday there. Now we wait as we want out of this whole sorry mess. It leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Husband is retiring this month and we thought we would be able to use our RCI membership without doubt as we bought into the higher levels of timeshare. Tried to find a place to go before February 2009, we have been told there is nothing on our side of the world. So we cant use the Royal Bali Club we cant use RCI. Well we can if we forever pay more, what was the point of paying into something we thought we would have for life and no more expense apart from air travel.
So people out there, beware Royal Bali Club and RCI. The directors and President must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Comments

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    John
    Who are these guys no one seems to happy with them
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    Bill
    Where are they set up
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    Joe Borg
    Be Aware...we listened to their presentation but we didn't buy however they treated us so bad afterwards. We stayed at Ananta through Getaway which they associate with. We were offered a transfer from hotel to airport...but they never came. Hotel tried calling for us but to no avail. Thanks to staff at Ananta they drove us to the airport at no cost. I personally think that the Royal Bali vacation club and all the others that are similiar are a scam and if you do your sums they don't work out, and I am sure you won't even get the accommodation or dates you require as its all a scam. Every couple of years they always change their business names and I personally wouldn't be buying into one as I couldn't trust them or the words that come out if their mouth.
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    Dane & Kim
    | 2 replies
    “Dear Complaintwire, as request from Royal resort, please remove all my previous complaints towards Royal Resorts as the matter has now been resolved, so my previous comments are no longer relevant and I wish to retract all statements.”
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      Belinda replies to Dane & Kim
      Could you please let me know how your complaints were resolved so that we can go through the same route to cancel our contract that we signed last week in Bali (belinda_seymour@optusnet.com.au).  We now realise this product is not for us and we want out of it.  Any advice you can give would be much appreciated!
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      Dee replies to Dane & Kim
      Hi,
      We know a friend who has fallen into the same trap. I don't think i need to explain anything else in detail. Can u please tell me how you managed to get out of the contract or even get your deposits back. We are stuck at the moment and need desperate advice. Living in Australia. Thank you
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    Samantha
    It´s a shame that this type of situations happens. Before signing your contract, assure you to read and understand all and each one of the points written in the contract. DO NOT sign your contract if you don’t find any of the verbal promises offered by the salesman. ASSURE you find all of them in written in your contract.
    I recommend you to read these articles about timeshare scams, hope this helps.

    http://www.timesharescam.com/
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    cb
    cb
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    Dave
    Went to the sales pitch, was terrible, boring and scrappy, u boys need to go back to school, didn't make sense at all. Big time scam from a bunch of tossers, especially the arrogant poms and Aussies.. Didn't signup either.
    They r the worst salespeople ever, get a proper day job spence, Rudd u should be ashamed to have stayed there
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    gerryco
    Most timeshare companies are taking advantage of people, often those who are more vulnerable and less able to resist hard sales tactics.  I have heard of many cases where maintenance costs rise well above inflation.  It would appear the timeshare companies lock people into contracts and then drive up their profits though increased maintenance charges. It would be good to see legislation whereby timeshare companies can only charge "reasonable" maintenance costs and not use this annual fee to fleece people's bank accounts.
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    David
    We were cornered for this scam as well in April 2013, went throught the whole thing with the false story about new hotel etc. Sounded to good to be true so we got out only at the 11th hour. Sounds like we made the right move. Very dishonest company to say the least. Very slick operation beware if you are going to Bali
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    Sumit
    Hi,
    This group is a very dangerous cheater. They took us to their South Goa resort. They showed some presentation. From the beginning itself we were asking them what is the package price but the person was saying first he wanted to discuss the benefits etc. and then he would tell the price for the same. My 6th sense said it was a fraud and decided not to take this whatever price they say. After a long wasting time he said it was Rs. 2,55,000 package for 5 years and he slightly mentioned about additional maintenance cost of Rs. 16000(Which will go up - he replied on being repeated asked) for every alternate year(You have to pay this  whether you use the resort or not). They make it hostile situation once you pay the money. If you cancel it you have to forget the money forever. If you want to keep it you will have to pay maintenance charges every alternate year with whatever amount they decide. After completing the session i said a farm "NO". They started being rude after that and told me why i did not say no before.I said because you did not tell me the price before even I asked you lot of times. Now it depends on you when you wanted to hear  "NO" from me. I walked out. I regret I wasted my precious time being there. Please never be there. I am thinking of filing lawsuit against them and alert everyone.Please help if anyone has done so. We should end this unscrupulous business.
    I can be contacted at sumit.sengupta09@gmail.com

    Thanks.
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    Melinda
    Me and my partner been dragged into a presentation in Bali about 1 month ago.A guy stopped us on a street with a scratch card and said we have won a week holiday,all we have to do to sit an hour presentation about Bali.And then he arranged a taxi for us and drive to another city.I still don`t know where we were!The presentation turned out to be a holiday timeshare by karma royal group.It was a proper barinstorming /brainwashing.They kept us there for over 9 hours.It was very uncomfortable and scary.They didn`t seemed to listen us when we said we were not interested in they offer.They kept offering `better and cheaper` deals.We tried to ask privacy but they wouldn`t let us alone longer than 5 mins.Even in that few mins a member of staff was monitoring us.After 9 hours I got to the point to sign anything just let us go safety.(Even english isn`t my first language and didn`t understand everything clearly).Later I emailed them asking to cancel our membership.They said we cant cancel it.Now I am trying to find the right organisations,get in touch with police and a lawyer and trying to get back the deposit of 1300 GBP.If you got any information on this,please let me know (melinda.virag@freemail.hu)
    And please never agree to go for a presentation like this!This is fraud!They rip you off!!!
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    AAAA
    | 3 replies
    halo semua, kami mengalami hal yang sama dengan semua. pertanyaan kami adalah pada saat mereka mengatakan kontrak tidak bisa dibatlkan, apakah kami harus :

    1. mengancam mereka (mengancam untuk menulis di media dll dll) sampai mereka menyetujui pembatalan kontrak secara tertulis ?

    ATAU

    2. yaudah kami cuekin saja, toh kami sudah mengajukan email kepada mereka untuk membatalkan kontrak dan kami sudah memblokir kartu kredit kami.

    3. setelah melakukan hal nomor 3, nyuekin mereka dan surat" dan peringatan yang pasti akan datang , apakah mereka bisa menuntut kami via hukum ? (menuntut kami untuk melunasi biaya keanggotaan sesuai kontrak? karena di kontrak disebutkan kalau mangkir pembayaran keanggotaan bisa dicabut tapi tagihan tetap harus dibayarkan *aneh kan ??)

    mohon sharingnya dari teman" yang sudah lebih dulu mengalami ini.. apakah yang terjadi selanjutnya setelah kalian mengontak mereka untuk membatalkan kontrak - mereka menolak - kita blokir kartu kredit.. apakah permasalahan bisa stop sampai situ ? what is the worst case yang bisa mereka lakukan ? meneror kita ? menuntut kita ke pengadilan kah ???

    mohon sharingnya, terimakasih.
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      Suriyani replies to AAAA
      Maaf,boleh saya tau apakah anda bisa membatalkan kontrak sepihak?krn saya juga baru masuk jebakan karma royal. Thanks atas bantuannya
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      Abey replies to AAAA
      sepertinya ada sindikat mafia yang bermain dengan pemerintahan setempat dibali utk tetap memelihara perusahaan ini utk tetap beroperasi, salah satu hipotesa

      1. seharusnya pemerintah provinsi bali sdh aware dan melakukanteguran atau tindakan hukum, (tp adem ayem aja)
      2. bali lawyers club gak ada suaranya lg, bahkan domainnya sdh error

      kesimpulan

      ini negara indonesia, hukum bs dibeli dengan uang, dan hukum tidak jelas.
      pihak royal jg pasti tahu sehingga mereka hanya menakt nakuti korbannya dengan kontrak yg jelas2 merugikan konsumen.
      jadi klo kontraknya kita robek pun gak masalah..krn mereka malas ngurusin konsumen yg sdh terlanjur bayar DP.

      tugas utama royal karma group

      - mencari sebanyak banyaknya member " korban" sehingga terjebak di dalam pembayaram DP. ini utk kelangsungan perusahaan ini.
      hitung aja jika sehari sda sejitar 10 korban yg close maka revenu haram mereka sktr 100jt/hari dan rata2 semuanya cancel.
      mereka pasti cape lah klo ngurusun kita yg cancel utk dituntut, krn yg cancel hampir semua, yg gak cancel ini yg mungkin kebanyakan uang atau takut (contohnya bule) yg taat aturan hukum. padahal merka gak tahu hukum di indonesia bs di utak atik.
      - menakut nakuti kobran yg sdh terlanjur bayr DP dengan klausul2 bodoh di dlm perjanjian sehingga customer enggan utk opt out from membership
      - melakukan ancaman / pengiriman surat peringatan jika pembayaran telat dan rajin menagih dengan penambahan bunga 2%
      - mencari celah supaya uang customer tetap ditagihkan.

      namun tugas utama dia gak pernah di penuhi malahan
      - sales sengaja gak boleh kontak dengan customernya, tp diarahkan ke CS yg memang sdh dilatih utk menghadapi komplain dan punya teknik hipnotis via phone. sehingga tugas mereka hanya dilatih utk menghadapy complain namun product skill NOL BESAR
      - CS yg seharusnya memberikan detail dr product dan informasi tidak cekatan dan malah menghindar utk memberikan CLEAR information mengenai paket2 yang sekiranya menarik.
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      Agustin replies to AAAA
      Saya korban baru.tolong bgm caranya saya bisa keluar.please.....
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    Suriyani
    Saya bingung, kenapa Bali yg merupakan ICON pariwisata Indonesia masih membiarkan penipuan seperti yg dilakukan Royal Club kepada turis domestik maupun luar negeri?sungguh merusak citra INDONESIA. Apakah krn mereka perusahaan besar?jadi kebal hukum?Saya mohon kepada semua lapisan masyarakat yg punya wewenang menyelesaikan masalah penipuan yg kiranya sudah banyak dialami para turis untuk memberikan sanksi kepada Royal Club .
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    LLL
    saya juga ingin mengetahui bgmn caranya membtalkan, sy baru terhipnotis juga menjadi member disana
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    MNN
    mas or mbak,
    kalau mau membatalkan, kirim email baik" ke mereka kalo anda mau membatalkan krn alasan pribadi .. sampaikan dengan baik" .. dan bilang kalau anda sadar bahwa uang yang sudah dibayarkan tidak akan dikembalikan.. sepertinya selama anda sampaikan dengan baik" dan anda belum memakai fasilitas mereka sama sekali DANNNN anda bisa MERELAKAN uang yang sudah anda bayarkan berapapun itu, mereka bersedia menstop keanggotaan.. jadi saran saya begitu 'sadar' langsung proses kirim email untuk tidak meneruskan keanggotaan jangan nunggu berminggu" .. dan JANGAN pakai fasilitasnya sama sekali.. dan yang terakhir RELAKAN uang yang sudah dibayarkan .. masalah akan menjadi pelik begitu anda menginginkan uang anda kembali :) .. oiya untuk keamanan anda sendiri sebaiknya blokir kartu kredit anda, minta ganti nomor n kartu baru :) selamat berjuang ya :)

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