Harassing Collection Calls

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Sharon Marsh
Country: United States
I am not sure that this is the name of the company because it is very difficult to understand the name of the company. This company has called me 2 times and left 15 minutes of messages on my answering machine. He repeats his name (which I cannot understand) and his phone number over and over again for 15 minutes.........I called them back the first time approximately a month ago and told him do not call again, and today I received the same 15 minute message. He is not calling for me, but and I am not going to put up with the harassment. The phone number that he give to call back is 1-800 -335-0872. I DO NOT WANT ANYMORE COLLECTION CALLS. I HAVE GOOD CREDIT AND I DO NOT CARE WHO HE IS CALLING FOR HE HAS NO RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO CALL AND HARASS ME! Please let me know what else I can do to get him to stop!

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    tj
    | 3 replies
    Other complaints.  They appear to be a debt collector.
    https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-335-0872

    Here is their website:
    http://www.mrsassociates.com/contactus.asp
    "MRS Associates Inc.
    1930 Olney Ave.
    Cherry Hill NJ 08003
    888-334-5677

    They claim to have offices in:
    "Cherry Hill, NJ (Headquarters); Parsippany, NJ; New Albany, OH; Mumbai, India"

    They appear to have a call center in Phoenix.
    http://www.budhibbs.com/debtcollectorpages/mrs_associates_inc_cmts.htm

    You told them they had the wrong number, and to cease calling.

    They are continuing to call, and are therefore violating FDCPA.

    Send a similar request in writing to their headquarters, certified return receipt requested.  Notify them that they are calling your number "xxx-xxx-xxxx" apparently trying to reach <whoever>, that you do not know that person and they cannot be reached at your phone number, and that they are to cease calling and harassing you.

    If they fail to cease harassing you, file a complaint with FTC for the FDCPA violation, and contact the New Jersey Attorney General.
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      defender of truth replies to tj
      | 1 reply
      best thing to do is to call the number you have insist politely to speak to a supervisor. tell them the story.  Some employee is not following the training given.
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        John replies to defender of truth
        You obviously work for the company, given the answer you provided.  If anyone calls them back, they will simply use it as verification of a debt and therefore increase the harrassment.  Report them directly to the FTC & BBB.
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      SB replies to tj
      tj thanks for the info. The phone number 888-334-5677 still good. Just called and ask to remove us from their system. We will see if it's working...
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    Carol
    | 27 replies
    I do have the debt and had excellent credit until numerous hardships hit me.  I can't deal with these people and they keep calling me at my place of employment.  I tell them not to call me there.  I am going to file a complaint with FTC.  I am trying to deal with debt collectors one at a time, which is the only thing I can do.  I am just trying to get my credit established again and get my life back together, and they are causing me much stress, more than I ever imagined in a lifetime.
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      Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com) replies to Carol
      | 26 replies
      As a 3rd party interloper, debt collection agencies have no lawful standing or recourse to dun ANYONE for repayment of a loan or debt that was never originated BY them. They will harass and berate people into believing they still  owe the money even though the person has no SIGNED CONTRACT WITH THEM!!!
      Do NOT be deceived! Once the entity you DID have an agreement with turns it over to a 3rd party YOU are DONE! Chase, BoA, or WHATEVER company you were making pmts to SELLS the debt to the collectors YOU are NO LONGER indebited to them!!! STOP GIVING YOUR $$$ to thieves! DEMAND that they send you the "VALDATED DEBT" (which they can't because they don't have a contract with you) and ask for the original contract SIGNED BY YOU with the debt collectors ~ NEVER ACCEPT MAIL FROM THEM OR SIGN & RETURN ANYTHING YOU RECIEVE FROM A DEBT COLLECTOR) AND also add that you are taping the phone calls and that after you have proof of the 3rd call you will commence stalking charges against them. ALL of this works. DEMAND to speak to the supervisor of everyone they put on the phone. Demand their name, badge #, and keep going until you have the name and address of the President and/or CEO of the company.....browbeat them as much as they browbeat you. Be relentless. If you email me @ Gwenyvere9@aol.com I can mail you a lawful Notice where you can fill in your name, Ref #, etc., mail it off to them "Return Receipt Requested" and they will have to stop the harassment or face further Lawful  action and you can collect big time !!
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        Brad3742@aol.com replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        Tell Me more about this lawful notice!
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        gooch_mcgoo replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        congratulations, you are giving ppl incorrect information and going to get some of them sued, learn the facts clown shoes
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        U obviously have NOOOO clue what u are talking about!!! There is a big difference between debt buyers and a 3rd party coll agency n if any of these ppl listen to u than they r just as clueless as u!!! U r not DONe as u put it once the acct leaves the original creditor n 3rd party coll agencies can provide VOD at any time so b4 u come on her acting like u no what u are talking bout which u clearly dont do your research!!!
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          tj replies to rick
          Either way, they are both debt collectors subject to FDCPA.

          If validation is so available, why do debt collectors work so hard to avoid providing it?
          Why the con game?
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          defender of the truth replies to rick
          you exposure yourself as a collector
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          John replies to rick
          Says the MRS employee
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        binkalink replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 5 replies
        I just sent you an email to ask for a copy of your lawful notice, as MRS Associates calls us twice per day over a supposed debt dating back to 2004!
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          tj replies to binkalink
          Better to send it by US Mail, mailed certified return receipt requested, so you have proof you sent it and that they got it, should you decide to sue.

          If the alleged debt went delinquent in 2004, under FCRA it is either already not reportable on credit reports, or about to be.  FCRA allows negative information to be reported for at most 7.5 years from the original date of delinquency.
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          Defender of the Truth replies to binkalink
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          call as for a supervisor about this.  2 call per day is lawful.  if the debt is not yours explain the supervisor/director  will stop. if it is yours he will show you how it is yours.  have an open mind they will too. dont work will the agents that answer the phone.  give them a chance nothing is ever solved without talking.
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            tj replies to Defender of the Truth
            When dealing with harassment or deception, nothing will be solved by just talking.
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            [***], best to ignor, ignor. replies to Defender of the Truth
            Bulshit...ignor, ignor...
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          LinnyBoo replies to binkalink
          There is a 3year statute of limitations for old debt. Meaning that they can't collect on it, because in your case the de this happen to mebt is almost 9yrs old. But if you validate the debt to the debt collector(agree that you do owe money to who ever), then that starts the clock all over agian (makes the debt current). Never tell them that you owe. Notify them in writing to cease and desist any further communications or collections. There is a form for this. Make acopy for yourself and mail it to any and all addresses that the debt collector has and send it return receipt.  And keep your receipt  with the copy of the form sent. This will stop them. I've happen to me. I even had debt collectors try to collect on old debt that was already paid for. Most of these collection companies are bottom feeders and crooks. They buy your name and and your old debt for pennies and try and harass people into paying. Anyway,  I hope this helps you or anyone one else out there. Good Luck!!
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        Good IDEA Susy (Gwenyvere) replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 2 replies
        yeah do what this poster (Susy) says!!! ^ Go ahead! You have to promise to come back and tell us how that turns out for you. Seriously though, The answer to this problem is quite easy. call 1-800-pay-yo-bill. Problem solved, they do not just call people out of the blue, you owe money. pay it.
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          Chaytahn replies to Good IDEA Susy (Gwenyvere)
          Some debt collection agencies try to collect debt that has been retired by the statute of limitations or even by going bankrupt.  In the case of MRS they refuse to give us the account number knowing that we will serve them with papers to cease and desist.  They are simply harassing and badgering in the hopes one will give them money to go away.  That is why we need to fight companies like MRS.
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          Says the collection employee
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        gpolti11@yahoo.com replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 1 reply
        How do I know if its a 3rd party collector? Does this apply to the state of California? What is a lawful notice? How can I get one? Pls reply at your earliest convenience.
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          tj replies to gpolti11@yahoo.com
          Anyone who collects consumer debts originally owed to another, and claims they are delinquent, is a debt collector as defined by FDCPA.

          That makes them subject to the various provisions of FDPCA, including the requirement to mail notice of the debt within 5 days of first contact, and the various prohibitions against abusive, harassing, and deceptive collection.  It also allows consumers to sue them for violations, in their home state, in state or federal court.

          The notice (sometimes called a "g" notice, for the section of FDCPA that requires it), is required to be mailed within 5 days of first contact, and must identify the debt collector and how to contact them, the amount of the alleged debt, and who it is allegedly owed to.  It is also required to include language notifying consumers that if they don't dispute the debt within 30 days, it will be assumed by the collector to be valid. (That does not MAKE it valid, and no court may use any failure to dispute as any indication of anything.)

          Here is the full text of FDPCA, from the FTC website:
          http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre27.pdf

          California's Rosenthal Act has similar provisions and requirements to FDCPA, except that many of them also apply to original creditors as well.

          MRS is a debt collector as defined by FDCPA.
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        Patriot replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 1 reply
        Susy is right, Rick is either misinformed, uninformed or works for a collection agency on commission himself.

        Collection Agencies routinely violate the FDCPA and the TCPA.  Most of the time, they are auto dialing which is why you have to say "hello" more than once to get someone to respond.  Every time they auto dial you they are violating the TCPA which is a fine of $1000 per occurrence.

        I too ran into debt issues when my wife experienced extreme health problems.  We never missed a payment, but we did use our cards. They kept raising my rates over a period of years despite a perfect payment history.  One company had me at 36% and I had never missed a payment by so much as one minute.  They're thieves and the swine who "buy" the so called debt are lower than whale dung.  I learned the facts and the law and when I run across a real jerk, I toy with these bozos just for the fun of it.

        Now pay attention!  Try this:  after you answer and they finally pick up the phone they will try to take control of the conversation by insisting that you answer their question.  This is where you win or lose.  They will always start with "Is this..." or "Is so and so there?".  DO NOT ANSWER THEIR QUESTION!!  NOT EVEN THE FIRST ONE.  For the love of God, they're calling you're home.  YOU are in charge.  Do you get it?  YOU rule your roost, not them.

        IMMEDIATELY you take control.  You say, "What is your name?";  "What is the name of your company?";  What is your extension?"; What is your address?;" etc., etc.  YOU ask the questions.  They'll huff and they'll puff, but they CAN'T blow your house down.  Remember, they are just people trained a certain way and you're talking to some poor sap trying to earn a living.

        Get this straight.  Susy is right.  With the right paperwork I have routinely sent lawyers packing.  Most people who have debt issues have been sold a bill of goods by rip off banks and credit card companies.

        Their goal is to make you feel lower than a snake's belly in a wagon wheel rut in Death Valley.  It's a game.  Learn to play it or they'll kill you with stress.

        One caveat: if they sick a lawyer on you who is a member of the Bar in your home state, the same rules apply, but don't mess around.  You have to know what you're doing or they'll get a judgment on you and now your dealing with the courts.  The fact is the "home town" lawyers are more careful not to violate the collection laws and when you know what you're doing you can easily win IF you do what you need to do before they go to court.  

        Even lawyers are after the low hanging fruit.  If you make them work too hard, they'll go away too, but DON'T ignore them.  You have rights and they have obligations, but you must exercise your rights in a timely fashion which is hard to do if you don't know what your rights and their obligations are.

        Remember the old saying, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse?"  I used to think it meant that I might accidentally violate some law and suffer the consequences.  Well that is only half true.  The flip side is that if you don't know your rights and somebody tramples all over them, you have no excuse.  If you're in a legal battle, don't come armed only with stupidity.
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          More informed replies to Patriot
          Actually the TCPA fine is $1500 per violation and it only covers an auto dialer calling your cell phone.  The FTC doesn't govern the FDCPA any longer.  It is now governed by the CFPB or Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.  Not all debt collectors are money hungry, greedy people.  Most of them will work with you and if you would just take a minute to explain your situations to them, they will understand.  Take a minute and talk to them you will be suprised.  Most 3rd party debt collectors have more programs available than you can imagine to help almost every situation.  Granted not all companies are like that, but there are a few out there.  If you feel that you do not owe the debt, simply send them a written notice to validate your debt.  They will send you all supporting documentation.  If you are responsible for the bill, calls can continue unless you send them a cease and desist notice.  Keep in mind the C&D only covers that agency and the original creditor can send your account to another agency and the process starts over for you.  Also remember that 3rd party debt collectors are not required to work with debt settlement companies and a DSC cannot stop litigation or garnishments.  Most 3rd party collections can and will offer you one heck of a deal and een work out payments on the settlements.  Always keep in mind though that you can receive a 1099c at the end of the year on any forgiven debt over $600 and have to claim that on your taxes as income.  Just a few extra tid bits of information.  :-)
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        I heard of this Susy. I heard that your contract is with the creditor and not with a collection place. But with the debt itself, those who have the debt should have their credit ran as the majority of the time the debt has already been charged off. Heard that by this, that the debt has already been charged off by the creditor putting out there that the debt is an attempt to be charged again and therefor can not be charged again? A letter of dispute with credit reporting agencies need to be sent out with this exact thing as well as fact that they do not owe this debt to this certain party/company... Just received a call from this MRS place, they asked to speak with so and so... I personally don't know what it's about and am not about to fully get info but if they continue calling, I will take this to the FTC including file complaints with the Attorney General, BBB, Consumer Affairs. It just doesn't stop with FTC. First of all, if there is a law that stipulates the debt is with the actual creditor per contract and legally can not be sold or assigned, I think that everyone out there would love to see this law so to wipe out the collection agencies period. Although laws in the fair debt collection act are in place, it would be good to see the laws that prevent creditors from selling them to another (as well as charge them off when they do sell or assign). If you have something that is in writing, pleeease share as those who are posting due to the actions of a debt collector, can understand. Although an attorney many say those in hardships should seek, like they can afford to... ???? Thanks Susy for your post and to those who have posted. I know that this is all about the complaints to the collectors actions and only hope that maybe a little of what I posted will help (no smart remarks that how ppl should pay their debts are welcome and will not be acknowledged, only support of those who are looking for a little help on how to make them stop the abuse of calls...) Hope for the best to you all that are enduring hardships.
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          James barr replies to TM
          it kills me how people use and borrow money then not pay it back and acts if every one is out to get them and none of the things that got the acct to the point is their fault. I have worked for a collection for 5yrs and people call in yelling at the top of the lungs. cursing and being as rude as possible they start the convo off wrong and then want the person on the other end to be the nices and most polite person they every dealt with. and why you get. calls every day is because you don't answer the phone or you do and talk about the matter say your going to do something to take care of the acct that date comes and goes with a phone call or anything about the agreement you set. so what next they start the process all over again. The reason for the charge off is the government say after 6 months of an acct not being paid it has to charge off in order for that to happen the acct has to be sent to and outside company I,E collection agency this stops the fee and interest. on the acct you will notice when it goes from one company to anther the bal has gotten a little higher is because for a short amount of time the acct has wnt to back to the client so u are back under the agreement. so dont play game do wht u say your going to do and things will be fine
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        defender of the truth replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 1 reply
        you need to stop causing trouble and preventing persons that owe a debt from paying by spreading false information.  Many creditors to hire NOT SELL their debts to agencies for collection purposes, and are legal to collect.   the contract cardholder agreement is still in affect.  Validation of debt is avaible but just delays paying debts and restore credit.  a good agency doesnt mind turnng calls over to supervisors because they have nothing to hide.  feel free to tape any calls your calls will be recorded as well.  If you want to be treated like a mature adult that is what you will get, if you want want to be treated other wise - sorry customer service is JOB #1.  Everyone that has a debt and wants to avoid paying it has the right to submit a C&D or a cease and desist letter it is no big secret.  write your own no special words needed except those 2 words.  However most people dont charge up credit cards and then run.  They want to make good just hit a bad patch.  Stay away from they career debitors and try to reslove your issues.  I believe you want to do right.
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          tj replies to defender of the truth
          Or just hand the case off to an attorney.
          You can find one through www.naca.net

          Why don't you take a remedial English class at your local junior college.
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        what ... replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        | 1 reply
        The origional creditor can place a debt with a 3rd party agency .. and they will still be able to obtain signed documentation as to the the origional contract. They don't always sell the debt outright. If they do sell the debt it is the contract that they sell. The buyer than becomes a first party .. the FDCPA governs 3rd paty laws.. So your not DONE if your debt is turned over to a 3rd party collection agency.
        If you want advice, I sugest an Attorney who knows what he/she is talking about.
        No one sells debt to a collector, they sell it to a debt buyer.
        Have you heard the term "you get what you pay for"?
        well this person is offering free advice
        think about that
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          False information.. replies to what ...
          " If they do sell the debt it is the contract that they sell. The buyer than becomes a first party .. the FDCPA governs 3rd paty laws.. "
          What is governed by FDCPA is spelled out in FDCPA.  It covers debt collected by any party other than the original creditor after it's delinquent, whether sold or not.  So, once it's delinquent in the hands of the original creditor, FDCPA applies to ANY other party who attempts to collect it.
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        Jadia722@gmail.com replies to Susy (Gwenyvere9@aol.com)
        You are a good person- thank you for that invaluable info!!! Bless You!

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