Scam - Report it to the FTC
Complaint
J
Country: United States
I receive a call from “account services”/”card member services”/”card holder services” EVERY DAY around noon. They refuse to remove my number, despite many requests. They often are very rude & give bogus information when I try to get more company info. The only thing I know to do is file a complaint with the FTC & I suggest all you do the same, hopefully with enough complaints they will shut this horrible company down. It is a quick & easy form. https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx please note that your phone number must be on the Do Not Call registry before your complaint is applicable – so if you have not registered your phone number on the National Do Not Call list, please do so : https://www.donotcall.gov/register/reg.aspx?panel=3
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Many times it’s a group of Florida criminals, working together. You have separate cardholder scum, their separate shell entities, and the dialers/boiler-rooms.
Oh “Bridget“, where are yooooou? We really love it when another foul Law Breaking “REP” sets off a chain reaction! “Press 1 to speak to” Carmen “from cardholder services” has been hacked, but doesn’t know it yet.
http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases ... wn-perpetrators
And then, there’s Florida’s joke “telemarketing license” that’s about as safe for America as a the corrupt state’s sink holes! ”. I don’t have any idea what “SPIFFS” are, but it sounds like something crooked, and against consumers. Just licensed criminals;
http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Divisions-Off ... s/Telemarketing
“cardholder service” backdoor for hiring more criminals, usually on Craigslist;
“L.I. (Lower Interest) Fronters“, AKA- live operator, or card service representative.
“L.I. qualifiers and closers” “L.I. Rooms, L.I. Reps, L.I.F.A , AKA financial advisor, debt coach
They disappear fast, so save screen shots now.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/csr/4582019088.htm
http://orlando.craigslist.org/csr/4581660752.html
http://orlando.craigslist.org/csr/4582011299.html
Why do the “cardholder services” criminals mostly use white females, and black males as “live operators”?
Does the predator match the “fronter” against its intended primary prey?
Survey on U.S. based “cardholder service” criminal operations from documented, and recorded incoming calls.
Forty (40) “cardholder service” robo-calls between 2012- 2014 were surveyed,
out of hundreds received.
They follow patterns of switching off to different call centers, dialers, fronters, live operators.
Out of 40 surveyed assumed ethnicity by voice;
African American = 8 males & 3 females
Caucasian = 3 males & 8 females
East Indian = 5 males.
Costa Rican/Hispanic = 3 Costa Rican males & 1 Hispanic female
No connection to “live operator/fronter/rep“ = 9
Time of day called out of 40;
Morning = 12
Noon = 3
Afternoon = 25
Day of the week called;
Monday = 5, Tuesday = 7, Wednesday = 9, Thursday = 5, Friday = 6, Saturday =1, Sunday = 0, Day unknown = 7
Levels of verbal threats, abuse, and harassment made by “cardholder services” by telephone;
Almost a third of the connected calls are “Extreme”, and includes terrorist type threats, extreme racketeering, and/or carrying out more calls. The increase in verbal abuse committed by the telemarketing criminals almost doubles when compared to 2010-2011.
No connection to “live operator” = 9
Medium abuse = 11
High abuse = 12
Extreme abuse = 8
Its called “illegal revenue sharing” through fraudulent "auto-dialers", and gets complicated, which makes for many loopholes they all use.
Link that explains some of it; Page 2.
[Phone companies] “….. pay telemarketers $.00075 per outbound call where the Caller ID data is successfully transmitted. In telecom jargon, these are called “dips” into a caller ID database. The telephone company for the consumer who receives the unsolicited telemarketing call must pay Pacific Telecom for the right to “dip” into the caller ID database in order to retrieve the “calling name” information that’s displayed on the phone. Incidentally, the rate of $.00075 per outbound call appears to be a small fraction of the “dip” fee, suggesting that Pacific Telecom actually reaps most of the profits when an unsolicited call is made.”
http://telemarketerspam.wordpress.com/page/2/
It’s a Consumer issue that effects many, so it should be much easier for Consumers to take action, but that’s not the case.
Most of the legal action researched on my behalf, was “Small Claims“. But, the swindlers violations quickly exceed even Civil Division Court limits. Whether going to a higher court, or not- “they” will often attempt to use a corrupt “attorney”. These so called “licensed counsel” will do everything they can to misdirect the case. You will have to find, and properly serve the exact right culprit/entity, and they will paper shred, hide, & shut down what you are looking to serve. While it does help to report the shill "lawyer" to the appropriate Bar Assoc, the whole thing becomes so much trouble for little to nothing in results. They just start up under a new shill name.
Not trying to be discouraging, just prepare you for what you may find. If anyone wants to initiate a potential case, post what you have here, and maybe I can add info from other sources.
I can tell you this, the criminals do not like to be exposed publicly. The FTC, and FCC seem to only proceed with lawsuit when the criminals have been thoroughly exposed, with enough complaints having come in.
The caller ID info is bogus, so reporting it to your state or the FTC isn't going to help. Quit blaming the g'vt - it's a scam artists dream to call from anywhere in the world making calls through computers and no enforcement that can catch them using present technology (so far as I've been advised).
Thousands of these calls are made every year and the people who PICK UP THEIR PHONE are the ones most often subject to repeat phone calls. DON'T ANSWER your phone if you don't know caller. If it is indeed important you'll probably get a voice mail. If you don't answer you'll probably not get further calls since you don't appear to be a sucker.
Use your Caller ID, if you don't have it, get it - Don't trust caller ID if you don't know number and it appears to be local, new ploy seems to be to make the caller look like they come from your hometown - computer assisted calls can again be used to put false information. Just answer the calls you know are from people you know, let voice mail pick up unknown callers.
Had one the other day threaten repeated daily harassment. But the thug-let didn’t keep "its" promise to call right back the next day. They are really cowards right down to the sick trash that sets these criminal operations up.